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Old 07-26-08, 12:39 PM   #1
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Old 07-26-08, 12:42 PM   #2
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Can I have your autograph Nicky.
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Old 07-26-08, 12:44 PM   #3
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Welcome back buddy.
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Old 07-26-08, 12:50 PM   #4
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How many will take his advice and quit? 0.
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Old 07-26-08, 12:51 PM   #5
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Informative video, Nicky!

At least I wasn't mentioned in the video along with all the other degenerates on SBR.
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Old 07-26-08, 12:52 PM   #6
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Many good points Nicky, bookmaking as where the cash is at.
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Old 07-26-08, 12:56 PM   #7
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Nice advice Nicky.
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Old 07-26-08, 12:57 PM   #8
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Good video Nicky
Still have to disagree with your point saying that no one can win in this business. Lots of people can
If I picked a couple games every night and I didn't play in-running bets, I would probably hit at about 40%. I suck at handicapping games. When you realize that you have a weakness though you have to think of other things that you can do to raise your chances of winning at sports gambling.
I worked a job for many years that I hated so much and I never want to go back to working shit jobs like that so I use that as motivation to make money however I can.
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Old 07-26-08, 12:59 PM   #9
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Old 07-26-08, 01:00 PM   #10
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Good video Nicky
Still have to disagree with your point saying that no one can win in this business. Lots of people can
If I picked a couple games every night and I didn't play in-running bets, I would probably hit at about 40%. I suck at handicapping games. When you realize that you have a weakness though you have to think of other things that you can do to raise your chances of winning at sports gambling.
I worked a job for many years that I hated so much and I never want to go back to working shit jobs like that so I use that as motivation to make money however I can.
There are many ways to make money, gambling on sports is one of the riskiest out there. Unless you have a sharp team of people, with unlimited funds, it is a losing long term proposition for 98+% people who gamble.
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Old 07-26-08, 01:03 PM   #11
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Like Nicky said....

what makes you think you can outsmart the bookmakers who have sharp groups of guys working on the numbers day and night who treat their business like a fortune 500 company?
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Old 07-26-08, 01:05 PM   #12
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Do it for fun, do for what you can afford to lose. If you make a few bucks all the better, but a good life certainly includes more than bettin' sports...

Props for saying the Emperor has no clothes Nicky...
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Old 07-26-08, 01:05 PM   #13
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i didn't have time to finish.. as the timer went off at the end, i was saying.. 1 in 2000 make money gambling.. and those are the people that

have deep pockets
bet within their means
dont chase
beat the closing #'s on most games or all games
dont bet tv games
have a bunch of good books with reduced juice


even with all that, they are still a dog to win. and who really can do all this? i dont know any..gambling always bites you in the ass at the end.. if you can do all the above, you have a decent shot.. if you dont.. forget it..

my example was 2 or 3 games a day at 53%.. imagine for the action junkie that plays 15 games a day at -110.? 2 or 3 games a day, you lose 113,000.. imagine 20 games a day.


but you boys want to really make money gambing, open a book.. can you imagine getting +600, +400, +250 on every game everyday.. 40 games a day, totals, ncaa, sides.. nfl... you can go 12-28 everyday and make money.. just open up a book and read the greek's lines and refresh the page after each guy calls and read him the lines. i assure you, you will clean up.. no need to invest in a line service.

i'd love to see the homes of spiros, henry of pinnacle and mickey of cris's house.. probabaly a 21 bedroom house by the ocean.
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Old 07-26-08, 01:07 PM   #14
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I'm in the 2% I guess, just have to be patient and bet a few at a time
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Old 07-26-08, 01:10 PM   #15
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We should lock that video at the top as it will help so many players, a very good educational video.
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Old 07-26-08, 01:11 PM   #16
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Love the vid Nicky. You know why Im not in the mix Nicky..cause I follow your advice to the "T" pal. Football comes send 2 G's off shore, make some money great, lose some money, better luck next year. Nicky i hope you turn it around. I won't give any advice my friend you seem very educated. GL
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Old 07-26-08, 01:12 PM   #17
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There are types of bets that you can do that increase your chance of winning from 40-50% to 90% and even on some occassions 100%.Just have to know what to do and how to find it
Like I said above though,if I bet before the games start like most of you guys do, I would have lost it all by now yes
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you joined 2 months ago
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Old 07-26-08, 01:14 PM   #19
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LOL! OK, Post of the early summer!!

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Old 07-26-08, 01:16 PM   #20
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thanks happy, and i can see you're a smart guy. i feel bad for everyone here, i really do. gambling is crack.. no one wins.. it's a fukin disease. and by you not being a regular gambler is very impressive. it's hard to quit, even for myself. you dont think i'd rather not gamble, have a decent job, a nice wife, 2 kids that love me and be normal? very hard to quit for everyone here. it's a disease, and you have it under control.. good for you..

NO ONE WILL WIN, trust me. i have yet to see one gambler retire.. they all lose at the end. i know the sharpest gamblers in teh world and today, 97% went broke and had millions made from gambling too. sharpest of the sharp.. imagine the poor kids here at sbr that lays -110.. ouch

happyboy, i only gave 2 examples. i have 24 more that will blow your mind more than my 2.. i didnt have the time. i've known this from day 1, yet i still gamble.. i know every number of gambling, cause i've always been a numbers guy, and it never stops me..

i haven't slept or eaten well in 3 weeks. i lost 12 lbs.. it's sick.. boys be careful. YOU HAVE NO CHANCE.. go buy yourselves something instead of giving it to these asholes.
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Old 07-26-08, 01:18 PM   #21
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Nice video Nicky. Hope things turn around for you.

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Old 07-26-08, 01:19 PM   #22
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Wow Nicky!! you here it time and again, it's like you said all the advice in the world wont help until the person hits rock bottom and walks away. Best of luck to you Nicky, sorry your going through a ruff time.
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Old 07-26-08, 01:22 PM   #23
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thanks tony. i will be ok.. i am not worried, and i know it will turn. we all go through bad streaks. .but this vid was not for me, it was for the kids here at sbr that lay -110 or -104 or whatever.

I FEEL VERY BAD FOR THEM. THEIR WIVES ONE DAY WILL LEAVE THEM, THEY WILL LOSE THEIR HOMES.. THEIR FAMILIES..

AND THAT,... I GUARANTEE YOU 1000000000% THEY WILL LOSE..


THEY DONT HAVE A PRAYER..

i just hope the kids here dont expect to retire from this and get rich, because their dreams will be shattered.

as ace rothstein said in CASINO..

:the truth is, there are NO WINNERS.. we're the only winners. we're here to take your money.. our goal is to keep you suckers coming back""


take that advice boys, it is the 100% truth.
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When you start losing you have to figure out what you are doing wrong and make changes in your approach.If you just stick with the same game plan from day one you will get buried.
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Old 07-26-08, 01:24 PM   #25
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When you start losing you have to figure out what you are doing wrong and make changes in your approach.

YEAH.... LIKE QUIT GAMBLING..
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thanks tony. i will be ok.. i am not worried, and i know it will turn. we all go through bad streaks. .but this vid was not for me, it was for the kids here at sbr that lay -110 or -104 or whatever.

I FEEL VERY BAD FOR THEM. THEIR WIVES ONE DAY WILL LEAVE THEM, THEY WILL LOSE THEIR HOMES.. THEIR FAMILIES..

AND THAT,... I GUARANTEE YOU 1000000000% THEY WILL LOSE..


THEY DONT HAVE A PRAYER..

i just hope the kids here dont expect to retire from this and get rich, because their dreams will be shattered.

as ace rothstein said in CASINO..

:the truth is, there are NO WINNERS.. we're the only winners. we're here to take your money.. our goal is to keep you suckers coming back""


take that advice boys, it is the 100% truth.
Another good quote from him was "we sell dreams for cash" or something like that.
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Old 07-26-08, 01:28 PM   #27
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haha I would never quit gambling.I would just change things up if my approach is losing.I have been making a living out of it so I can't really complain
Crappy thing is that we are all degenerates so we are unable to walk away if we are losing. I know that if I have a losing day all I think about is getting that money back asap.I don't ever consider hanging it up for good
So knowing that a gambler will not walk away from gambling for good, the gambler has to then come up with ways to keep gambling but to actually win
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Old 07-26-08, 01:30 PM   #28
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Nicky: Where I come from there is a 'bookies' on every street corner. It's like a club, you grow up with your friends and you all end up in the bookies, its a social thing, your local bookie was a meeting place, a calm place with no wives or girlfriends, just degenerates with the same thing in common....wanting to win. When you walked through the door you becamse the same as anyone else in there, a policeman was the same as a drug dealer, a lawyer was the same as the guy who collected his trash, all that mattered was the gambling. I saw hundreds of people lose lots and lots of money, some more than others, i saw it ruin marriages and I saw people lose their homes and even their lives in a couple of cases because they were degenerates. The one thing I never saw was anyone stop. I never saw anyone stop completely. I saw people who slowed down a bit, I saw people who only put so much in their pocket before they left the house and I saw people go in there with no money....just because they wanted to be there because it was a good place to be, hanging with degenerates but I nerver saw anyone really grab it and say 'i'm out,' I never saw anyone stop, I never saw anyone completely knock it on the head and say 'its over.' I've long since come to the conclusion that once you get into a regular pattern of betting on sports and following the progress on tv it's more addictave than crack, heroin or any drug you can name and once someone has done it for long enough they cant live without it. I truly beileve this. To stop gambling leaves a huge hole in your life. The reason I say this is because, your video, however well-meaning and with loadsa respect, is a waste of time if its a plea for people to stop because they wont. Once youve got the bug the secret is to control it because you'll never stop it.
In my opinion it boils down to this: if you're sensible and you have 1oz of intelligence, you'll realise as early as possible you're dealing with a very powerful thing. The power only rears its ugly side when you haven't got quite as much money to be gambling with but you carry on regardless, that's when it can get dangerous and in my opinion, if you can 'slow down' when you know you have to slow down, that is about as good as it gets. I'm lucky, I can slow down.....i still lose money though.
Just my two cents.
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Old 07-26-08, 02:02 PM   #29
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Thanks for the video Nicky......that puts are the other videos ever posted on here to shame...Good luck to you.
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PS.......It was worth the wait.

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Old 07-26-08, 02:09 PM   #31
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great video nicky.well worth the wait.I hope you don't take off another 3 weeks.I agree with jj ,this should be a sticky at the top but it needs some contrarian vewpoints as well,You can make money with money management and the right type of research.the question is for how long and can you weather the storms and the bad times

great video nicky
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Old 07-26-08, 02:18 PM   #32
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thanks mari, i thought people would find it boring just telling people how they will all lose their money for 10 minutes..


jgm,

thanks but i was about to say this as the timer went off with 20 seconds to go before i reach youtube max 10 min. i was going to say,, if you have these 6 or 7 things, you can make money, but you MUST follow all rules, never lay -110, unless you have a big edge on the closing line, etc.. and even those guys go down jgm, they all eventually bite the dust. i've seen the sharpest of the sharps go down and are broke today.. it's a mental thing.. they chase, they bet games they're not supposed to (tv games).. etc.. just hard to beat this game jgm.. especially the kids who play -110.. they have no chance.


boys,

here is a perfect example.. this will be easier to understand..


if a guy comes up to you at a party and says.. hey, lets make a bet. let's flip 100 coins, and if heads comes up 53 times, you break even.. we go home..

but if tails comes up 53 times, you give me 113,000 bucks..

would you do it?

well, you all wouldn't do it, but guess what, you're all doing it now, and the person you are doing this with is the books.. i guess it's a good deal for you huh? break even, or lose 113,000..
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Old 07-26-08, 02:24 PM   #33
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Nicky this is just like smoking ads telling you what the effects of using tobbaco will do. Cancer, emphysema, ect...But yet people still race out and buy packs. Their only complaint is the price keeps going up, not that they cant go 5 steps without getting winded. You have told people not to gamble and the effects of it, but people were probably laying action while watching your video.
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Old 07-26-08, 02:25 PM   #34
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I will make a video response today to Nicky's Vid
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Old 07-26-08, 02:26 PM   #35
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Hey Nick while this break down is good and all but... How do you explain not having a losing season in the past 3 years were I have came up long term betting NBA, NCAA and NFL?
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