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    Put this list together a little while ago...hope it helps some of you.

    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Arizona. .Bet365 . .73. . .-125 . -105
    . . . . .Cris . . . 73½ . .-110 . -110
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 73. . .-116 . +100
    . . . . .The Greek. 74½ . .+115 . -135
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 73½ . .-115 . -115
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Atlanta. .Bet365 . .88. . .-110 . -120
    . . . . .Cris . . . 88. . .-105 . -115
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 88. . .+101 . -117
    . . . . .The Greek. 87½ . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 87½ . .-130 . +100
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Baltimore.Bet365 . .74. . .-115 . -115
    . . . . .Cris . . . 74. . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 74. . .-111 . -105
    . . . . .The Greek. 74½ . .-105 . -115
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 74½ . .-115 . -115
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Boston . .Bet365 . .91½ . .-115 . -115
    . . . . .Cris . . . 91. . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 91½ . .-104 . -112
    . . . . .The Greek. 92½ . .+125 . -145
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 91½ . .-115 . -115
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Chi Cubs .Bet365 . .84. . .-105 . -125
    . . . . .Cris . . . 84. . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 84. . .+105 . -121
    . . . . .The Greek. 84½ . .+120 . -140
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 85½ . .-105 . -125
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Chi Sox. .Bet365 . .91½ . .-120 . -110
    . . . . .Cris . . . 91. . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 91½ . .-111 . -105
    . . . . .The Greek. 91½ . .+105 . -125
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 91½ . .-115 . -115
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Cinc’nati.Bet365 . .73. . .-135 . 105
    . . . . .Cris . . . 74. . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 73. . .-133 . 117
    . . . . .The Greek. 73½ . .-110 . -110
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 73½ . .-115 . -115
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Cleveland.Bet365 . .89½ . .-105 . -125
    . . . . .Cris . . . 89. . .-105 . -115
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 89½ . .+115 . -131
    . . . . .The Greek. 89½ . .+105 . -125
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 89½ . .-105 . -125
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Colorado .Bet365 . .70 . .-115 . -115
    . . . . .Cris . . . 69½ . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 70 . .-120 . +104
    . . . . .The Greek. 68½ . .-140 . +120
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 69½ . .-125 . -105
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Detroit. .Bet365 . .78½ . .-115 . -115
    . . . . .Cris . . . 78. . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 79. . .+105 . -121
    . . . . .The Greek. 78½ . .+100 . -120
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 78½ . .-115 . -115
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Florida. .Bet365 . .64½ . .-130 . +100
    . . . . .Cris . . . 65. . .-110 . -110
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 64½ . .-130 . +114
    . . . . .The Greek. 64½ . .-135 . +115
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 64½ . .-120 . -110
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Houston. .Bet365 . .83. . .-105 . -125
    . . . . .Cris . . . 82½ . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 83. . .+101 . -117
    . . . . .The Greek. 82½ . .-110 . -110
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 82½ . .-130 . +100
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Kansas C .Bet365 . .64. . .-130 . +100
    . . . . .Cris . . . 64. . .-110 . -110
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 64. . .-108 . -108
    . . . . .The Greek. 64½ . .+105 . -125
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 63½ . .-140 . +110
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    LA Angels.Bet365 . .88. . .-115 . -115
    . . . . .Cris . . . 88. . .-110 . -110
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 88. . .+104 . -120
    . . . . .The Greek. 87½ . .-120 . +100
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 87½ . .-125 . -105
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    LA Dodgrs.Bet365 . .84½ . .-115 . -115
    . . . . .Cris . . . 84½ . .-105 . -115
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 84½ . .-111 . -105
    . . . . .The Greek. 85½ . .+110 . -130
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 85. . .-125 . -105
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Milwaukee.Bet365 . .82. . .-135 . +105
    . . . . .Cris . . . 82½ . .-105 . -115
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 82. . .-126 . +110
    . . . . .The Greek. 81½ . .-120 . +100
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 81½ . .-130 . +100
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Minnesota.Bet365 . . 83. . .-140 . +110
    . . . . .Cris . . . 83. . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 83. . .-130 . +114
    . . . . .The Greek. 82½ . .-135 . +115
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 82½ . .-140 . +110
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    New Y Met.Bet365 . .90½ . .-115 . -115
    . . . . .Cris . . . 90. . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 90½ . .-112 . -104
    . . . . .The Greek. 91½ . .+110 . -130
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 90½ . .-115 . -115
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    New Y Y. .Bet365 . .97½ . .-120 . -110
    . . . . .Cris . . . 97½ . .-105 . -115
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 97½ . .-113 . -103
    . . . . .The Greek. 98½ . .+110 . -130
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 97½ . .-115 . -115
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Oakland. .Bet365 . .90. . .-115 . -115
    . . . . .Cris . . . 90. . .-105 . -115
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 90. . .-110 . -106
    . . . . .The Greek. 89½ . .-120 . +100
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 89½ . .-115 . -115
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Phildlpha.Bet365 . .82. . .-135 . +105
    . . . . .Cris . . . 82½ . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 82. . .-134 . +118
    . . . . .The Greek. 82½ . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 82½ . .-110 . -120
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Pittsburg.Bet365 . .76. . .-140 . +110
    . . . . .Cris . . . 76½ . .-105 . -115
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 76. . .-126 . +110
    . . . . .The Greek. 74½ . .-170 . +150
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 75½ . .-130 . +100
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    St Louis .Bet365 . .92½ . .-125 . -105
    . . . . .Cris . . . 92½ . .-110 . -110
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 92½ . .-116 . +100
    . . . . .The Greek. 92½ . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 92½ . .-115 . -115
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    San Diego.Bet365 . .78. . .-105 . -125
    . . . . .Cris . . . 77½ . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 78. . .+106 . -122
    . . . . .The Greek. 78½ . .+110 . -130
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 78. . .-105 . -125
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    San Fran .Bet365 . .84. . .-110 . -120
    . . . . .Cris . . . 83½ . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 84. . .+110 . -126
    . . . . .The Greek. 83½ . .-125 . +105
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 84. . .-115 . -115
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Seattle. .Bet365 . .75. . .-120 . -110
    . . . . .Cris . . . 76. . .-105 . -115
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 75. . .-119 . +103
    . . . . .The Greek. 74½ . .-145 . +125
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 75. . .-115 . -115
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Tampa Bay.Bet365 . .67½ . .-135 . +105
    . . . . .Cris . . . 68. . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 67½ . .-119 . +103
    . . . . .The Greek. 66½ . .-135 . +115
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 67½ . .-120 . -110
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Texas. . .Bet365 . .81. . .-140 . +110
    . . . . .Cris . . . 81½ . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 81. . .-127 . +111
    . . . . .The Greek. 81½ . .-110 . -110
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 80½ . .-130 . +100
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Toronto. .Bet365 . .87. . .-120 . -110
    . . . . .Cris . . . 87. . .-105 . -115
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 87. . .-102 . -114
    . . . . .The Greek. 87. . .-110 . -110
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 87. . .-115 . -115
    MLB TEAM .BOOK . . .WINS . .OVER . UNDER
    Washingtn.Bet365 . .74½ . .-110 . -120
    . . . . .Cris . . . 75½ . .+105 . -125
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 74½ . .-101 . -115
    . . . . .The Greek. Off . . off . off
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 74½ . .-120 . -110


    NOTE: Washington at The Greek. Their price line was not available this morning, probably just dropped off since it was the last lines on their table. The Greek removed Washington completely after I spoke with them, and will likely post it back.
    Last edited by Willie Bee; 03-28-06 at 05:24 PM.

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    This spreadsheet can be used to compare different season totals between books.

    For example:
    Arizona
    Let's say that your handicapping tells you that you expect Arizona on average to win 73¾ games next season. Pinnacle and Greek are offering the following:

    Pinnacle
    o73 -116
    u73 +100

    Greek
    o74½ +115
    u74½ -135

    Which is better?

    Enter Expected Season Wins (73.75), First Total (73), First Over Line (-116), First Under Line (+100), Second Total (74.5), Second Over Line (+115), and Second Under Line (-135) into the spreadsheet.

    You see that the Pinnacle line implies a 2.2% expected profit on the over and a 9.8% expected loss on the under.

    You see that the Greek line implies a 2.8% expected loss on the over and a 4.6% expected loss on the under.

    Therefore, the Pinnacle over would yield greater expected profit than the Greek over, and the Greek under would yield lower expected loss than the Pinnacle under.

    Lastly the equivalent over and under lines show what the lines would need to be at the second to match the expected preofit or loss at the first book. In this case we see that in terms of expected profit, o73 -116 is equivalent to o74½ +126.2 and u73 +100 is equivalent to u74½ -154.9.
    Last edited by Ganchrow; 03-30-07 at 12:55 AM.

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    alot of different numbers on this team i see.

    Texas
    . . . . .Bet365 . .81. . .-140 . +110
    . . . . .Cris . . . 81½ . .-115 . -105
    . . . . .Pinnacle . 81. . .-127 . +111
    . . . . .The Greek. 81½ . .-110 . -110
    . . . . .WSEX . . . 80½ . .-130 . +100

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan
    alot of different numbers on this team i see.
    Same could be said about Tampa Bay, Seattle, Pittsburgh

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    Several UNDER bets caught my eye while I was putting the list together...

    Reds u73 +117 at Pinnacle
    Rockies u70 +104 at Pinnacle
    Rockies u68½ +120 at The Greek
    Pirates u76 +110 at Pinnacle and Bet365

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    WB, that Pirates u76 +110 does look perty inticing to me as well.

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