[bigboydan]

With these outrageous oil price we are forced to pay and with all the untapped oil scientists say that is in Alaska right now. I think the U.S. government should do all they can to refine it!

Buy or sell: Oil drilling in Alaska?

[element1286]

Buy.

Gotta do something to get the prices down.

[pavyracer]

There are no significant deposits in Alaska. Most of the oil is across the Bering Sea in Siberia. This is why the Russians sold us Alaska for 2c/acre because all the oil is in Siberia and with global warming exposing most of the permafrost in the 10,000 mile long Siberia coastline we are going to be left grabbing the moose's testacles to milk for oil.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Sell.

Use the money to invest in alternative energy research and development. There isn't enough oil there to make much of a dent in gas prices anyway. We need to alleviate this problem permanently, not patch it for a few years by raping the little undeveloped wilderness still remaining. This problem needs to go away and the only way we truly resolve it is to get away from fossil fuel consumption as our primary means of energy. Its high time we quit putting it off!

[jjgold]

Not going to drill because so many politicians have oil stocks and are making a killing.

[jtuck]

Buy. Glenn Beck said it best. I'd drill through a polar bear's ass to get cheaper gas.

[ryanXL977]

glenn beck is not a person i would quote
he is dummer than a box of rocks

[jtuck]

Nevermind. Dont want to start something

[durito]

There is not enough there to have much effect on oil prices.

We need to invest in alternative energy sources.

[ryanXL977]

do you guys seriously think drilling is gonna drop our oil prices
if they will , go for it
kill all the polar bears for all i care, give me back $2 gas. but i have a funny feeling it wont do anything, because no matter what, oil will go to the highest bidder, not the lowest
so drilling is pointless

[onthewhat]

buy buy buy buy

[RageWizard]

I'm a no on drilling. Oil prices aren't going anywhere but up even if they find a giant pool up someones ass big enough to supply us for the next 100 years. Oil companies don't want to find too much at one time. It is time for the U.S. to bite the bullet and find something else. 10 years of pain and we can be off of oil for good. What is needed is the polictical will and a giant program to give incentives to companies for going to alternative energies. Yeah its going to hurt everyone in the short run to do it, but you'll be better off in a decade for doing it. Of course we live in a I need it now society so I'm not counting on it, so in the meantime please buy a land yatcht so that I can stay employed.

[element1286]

Originally Posted by RageWizard

I'm a no on drilling. Oil prices aren't going anywhere but up even if they find a giant pool up someones ass big enough to supply us for the next 100 years. Oil companies don't want to find too much at one time. It is time for the U.S. to bite the bullet and find something else. 10 years of pain and we can be off of oil for good. What is needed is the polictical will and a giant program to give incentives to companies for going to alternative energies. Yeah its going to hurt everyone in the short run to do it, but you'll be better off in a decade for doing it. Of course we live in a I need it now society so I'm not counting on it, so in the meantime please buy a land yatcht so that I can stay employed.

Why can't both be done?

[mathdotcom]

Don't get why everyone thinks they're entitled to cheap gas.

Like others have said, it's about phucking time for alternative energy. Low gas prices will never be compatible w/ that. Oil is the source of all of America's problems. Get rid of it.

[RageWizard]

Originally Posted by element1286

Why can't both be done?

U.S. residents are fat and lazy by nature, and will not do anything until we have too. We could have done this in the late 70's but then oil got cheap and we got the Ford Escallade which gets like 10 miles to the gallon but is 4 times the size of a european apartment. If there is sufficient pain, the government will declare a war on oil and it will be patriotic to save as much oil as possible. Hell JJ will even get credit for not using astroglide on the fatties that he is banging in the ass.

[bigboydan]

Originally Posted by mathdotcom

Don't get why everyone thinks they're entitled to cheap gas.

Like others have said, it's about phucking time for alternative energy. Low gas prices will never be compatible w/ that. Oil is the source of all of America's problems. Get rid of it.

While I do agree we need to focus on other means of energy resources, why not focus on what we have sitting on U.S. soil. To me thats just a no brainer.

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by pavyracer

There are no significant deposits in Alaska. Most of the oil is across the Bering Sea in Siberia. This is why the Russians sold us Alaska for 2c/acre because all the oil is in Siberia and with global warming exposing most of the permafrost in the 10,000 mile long Siberia coastline we are going to be left grabbing the moose's testacles to milk for oil.

I was told there is more oil in the US than in Iraq, Venezuela, Iran, and Nigeria combined.

[69882000]

Buy! Gas prices must come down.

[Illusion]

The US needs alternative fuel sources. I say sell. Let's explore other options before we drill Alaska and offshore California.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Originally Posted by Deuce

I was told there is more oil in the US than in Iraq, Venezuela, Iran, and Nigeria combined.

You were told wrong. Absolutely wrong. The TOTAL amount of oil in Alaska would supply the U.S. (at current consumption rates) for no more than six months. The risk is absolutely not worth the reward. It would NOT affect oil prices significantly and certainly not long term. All it will do is destroy wildlife and put off the inevitable, which is finding alternative energy sources.

[Illusion]

Originally Posted by Deuce

I was told there is more oil in the US than in Iraq, Venezuela, Iran, and Nigeria combined.

Oil no, coal yes.

[Justin7]

There's not enough we can suck out of there to even DENT the demand. It's more about populism and winning votes than any type of coherent energy policy.

Europe has been paying $5/gallon for years. Their policy works - everyone drives small cars, and uses public transportation. If gas starts to dip down, I say tax it more. The US needs a coherent renewable energy policy. It's doable, but not with the lazy entitlement mentality.

[pavyracer]

The big three in Detroit make more money selling V8's, at least they used to, and would not welcome public transportation as an alternate way to save fuel. Local governments are also making a shitload of money from tag renewal fees and add valorem taxes on vehicles based on value. It is a system built by politicians to increase demand for fossil fuels and maximize profits for oil companies. Everything in the US is designed to increase coorporate profit without any regards to national interest or people's needs.

[Deuce]

Pavy

Educate me on this topic. I was informed that liberals don't want this because they want us to pay 10 dollars a gallon. They want us to use bikes and the shoe leather express instead.

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker

You were told wrong. Absolutely wrong. The TOTAL amount of oil in Alaska would supply the U.S. (at current consumption rates) for no more than six months. The risk is absolutely not worth the reward. It would NOT affect oil prices significantly and certainly not long term. All it will do is destroy wildlife and put off the inevitable, which is finding alternative energy sources.

Current consumption rate it would last 11 years pal. Would take 7 to drill and produce it which means in the year 2027 it would be dry. I can live with that. By that team we should have come up with alternatives.

[daggerkobe]

A big HELL NO.

It would literally take years to see any benefits and by then we'll have alternative fuels in place. Honda has already launched a fuelcell vehicle that runs on hydrogen and gets almost 300 miles to the tank.

It's funny that Bush is so adamant about drilling when there was a mandate in front of his face calling for the auto manufacturers to raise their cars by mere 1MPG but refused to sign. It would've saved Americans over 100 million barrels of oil annually.

This is just another attempt by republicans to cater to the oil corporations as they have been trying to drill ANWR for close to half a century.

[ryanXL977]

seriously
whose idea is it to drill there?
bush
has he ever had one good idea in his ****ing life

[BuddyBear]

Originally Posted by ryanXL977

glenn beck is not a person i would quote
he is dummer than a box of rocks

The sad thing is that a box of rocks might be too generous a comparsion for him.

[BuddyBear]

You guys serious? Haven't you seen the reports from the Department of Energy on this?

Drilling for oil in Alaska is a poor (and I stress poor) solution to this problem. the DE reports that a barrel of gas is likely to go down approximately $1 or so if we drill for oil. In short, you would essentially be paying the same amount. And, it won't be available for another decade or so, not really an instant solution.

The best answer is to find alternative solutions, not find more oil. Right now, make an effort to use public transportation, cut down on driving by not making unnecessary trips, use a bike, walk, carpool, etc...

[durito]

We need a $5 a gallon gas tax.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Originally Posted by Deuce

Current consumption rate it would last 11 years pal. Would take 7 to drill and produce it which means in the year 2027 it would be dry. I can live with that. By that team we should have come up with alternatives.

Wrong. As I said, the TOTAL amount of oil in ANWR would last us, at most, 6 months at current consumption rates if it were the only oil that we used. At PRODUCTION rates, it would last approximately 11 years. And by the way, it is estimated that oil prices would drop approximately $1 per barrel (or about 2 cents a gallon).

[element1286]

Why can't it be a combination of drilling for oil in ANWAR and the Continental Shelf, continued development of alternative energy, use of wind/solar/nuclear power, more fuel efficient vehicles, coal to oil, and more mass transportation? I don't understand why any of these solutions would be taken off the table.

[BuddyBear]

Most politicians know that drilling for oil in ANWAR is not realistic, but use it to pander to voters. Especially toward conservative voters, since conservative voters by and large lack the necessary critical thinking skills to process bigger arguments.

[element1286]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

Most politicians know that drilling for oil in ANWAR is not realistic, but use it to pander to voters. Especially toward conservative voters, since conservative voters by and large lack the necessary critical thinking skills to process bigger arguments.

That is a pretty ignorant statement.

[BuddyBear]

Originally Posted by element1286

That is a pretty ignorant statement.

Not really.....