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Old 03-14-06, 11:41 AM   #1
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How does this workout at the books web sights? When is it a goo d idea and when is it not good? Or any web sights better for do this at?

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Old 03-14-06, 02:58 PM   #2
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I just use Pinnacle's drop down menu. I usually sell points to get a better line. Note, I only sell points when I feel real strong about a game.
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Old 03-14-06, 05:58 PM   #3
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I sell points sometimes with the drop down menu...
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Old 03-15-06, 10:37 AM   #4
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Thank you for the answer s. This is probaly most for more experience gamblers. Do you get more for sale points at some sights than other sights?

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Old 03-15-06, 10:43 AM   #5
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Just remember that the lower the total (or expected score) the more valuable the points. In a game like West Virginia/Southern Illinois this weekend, selling points wouldn't be a great idea, but in a game like UCONN/Albany, it would make more sense.
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Old 03-15-06, 05:28 PM   #6
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pinny is the only site I play with where I can sell points...
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Old 03-16-06, 04:49 AM   #7
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Just remember that the lower the total (or expected score) the more valuable the points.
There's no question that this is indeed a factor. Its theoretical justification is that due to the greater sparsity of likely outcomes for "low" totals as opposed to "high", there's also a greater liikelihood of realizing any given MOV under a "low" total scneario. And indeed, this certainly has a large imapct in baseball. In basketball, however, it gets a little more complicated.

If you look at NCAA Basketball spreads over the past 8 or 9 years and partition the data set into a "high" total subset and a "low" total subset what you find is that while for most spreads push probabilities when you move from the "high" total subset to the "low" do increase (as predicted by theory), there are a few spread clusters (most notable of which may be the 3-4-5 spread cluster) where figure probabilities actually decrease. Assuming that this isn't a data anomaly (and the texture of the probability differences surrounding the clusters suggest that indeed it isn't), this suggests that there exists some other factor, which for certain spread groups and as a function of expected total score, exerts an impact on push probabilities opposite to that of sparsity. (And of course it stands to reason that for other spread groups the factor's effect is in the same direction as that of sparsity.)

The macro explanation for this theoretical factor is certainly up for debate. I do have my own hypothesis about it but I'd be interested in seeing if anyone else has any thoughts before I poison the well with my own bombastic flavor of expression.
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Old 03-16-06, 05:59 AM   #8
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When I have infatuation for a game the 1st thing I envision is Pinnacle and
selling points. Getting +115 or so on a game where you assume the line is
inaccurate, is without question profitable and lucrative for a professional
and skillful handicapper.

With that being said the only time I would recommend selling points
is if you are infatuated with a particular game or the spread is sizable
i.e -10 or more. Ganchrow great work my friend! Who is going to
be the win the NCAA tourney this year?
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Old 03-16-06, 09:56 AM   #9
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This is all good to read for a new comer like me. Thank you.

Paul
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Old 03-19-06, 01:09 AM   #10
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Here are a few links you might want to look at, I'm pretty new to this sports stuff, but basically it looks like once you have a good idea of the push frequency for each number (you'd do well to automate this by writing a program to analyze past score data or getting someone to do it for you), you should be able to figure out any change in EV buying on or off of a number would create.

http://forums.lasvegasadvisor.com/me...AR_MSGDBTABLE=

http://forums.lasvegasadvisor.com/me...AR_MSGDBTABLE=

http://sharpsportsbetting.com/forums...cgi/read/16055

http://www.sharpsportsbetting.com/fo...ames/read/6704

Hope this helps, I'm finding that there are many interesting things to this sports betting stuff, handicapping (assuming it can be done), money management, and line shopping among others.

Hope this helps!

Bryan
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