1. 12-10-10 10:16 AM #1
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    Censored Betfair robbery video (at SBR.tv)

    This was originally up at Youtube. There was a complaint that it was "defamatory", and Youtube removed it. I haven't been able to get any explanation from them yet.

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  2. 12-10-10 10:17 AM #2
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    seems like they are admitting to being wrong by taking it down
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  3. 12-10-10 10:30 AM #3
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    Would have to think that BetFair would never want this in front of an English jury.
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  4. 12-10-10 10:46 AM #4
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    for horses/tennis and soccer betfair is a must no matter who they scam

    IT IS A MUST

    Bad scam but what are you going to do
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  5. 12-10-10 11:13 AM #5
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    when you offer a wrong price and the customer should have known they were wrong, bets are voided, in some cases even after the event. in this case, the promotion was wrong and the customer could and should have known, the promotion is voided.
    it's not pretty and says a lot about the company betfair has become, but it's not half as bad as sbr wants us to think.
    i like sbr, but if anything like this had happened at the cris casino for example this would have been reported a lot differently.
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  6. 12-10-10 11:58 AM #6
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  7. 12-10-10 12:03 PM #7
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    This story made me to withdraw all my funds from Betfair, thanks for posting.
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  8. 12-10-10 12:10 PM #8
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    great job justin 7


    is justin7 the most feared guy for offshore books???
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  9. 12-10-10 12:11 PM #9
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    I complained to Youtube about censoring my news story, and they reinstated it over the objections of whomever complained.
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  10. 12-10-10 12:14 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    I complained to Youtube about censoring my news story, and they reinstated it over the objections of whomever complained.
    That is the flawed rules at youtube. If enough people flag and complain they will take down just about anything.
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  11. 12-10-10 12:15 PM #11
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    thank you justin7 for looking out the best interests for players

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  12. 12-10-10 12:15 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    for horses/tennis and soccer betfair is a must no matter who they scam

    IT IS A MUST

    Bad scam but what are you going to do
    wrong attitude JJ wrong. We can't accept scamming and still call a book a must out because of one reason or another. What good is there bet options if they will steal from you?
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  13. 12-10-10 12:16 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by noyb View Post
    when you offer a wrong price and the customer should have known they were wrong, bets are voided, in some cases even after the event. in this case, the promotion was wrong and the customer could and should have known, the promotion is voided.
    it's not pretty and says a lot about the company betfair has become, but it's not half as bad as sbr wants us to think.
    i like sbr, but if anything like this had happened at the cris casino for example this would have been reported a lot differently.
    I very much disagree with your last statement. Reasonable management at CRIS or any sportsbook & casino would have listened to our presentation of the facts and made the players whole. In fact, similar events have happened at CRIS and not too long ago at 5Dimes. These places are run by humans and they make mistakes. The mark of honorable businesses is how they deal with those affected by their errors. In this case it would have been very simple to honor their deal and change it to make better business sense.
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  14. 12-10-10 12:22 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    I very much disagree with your last statement. Reasonable management at CRIS or any sportsbook & casino would have listened to our presentation of the facts and made the players whole. In fact, similar events have happened at CRIS and not too long ago at 5Dimes. These places are run by humans and they make mistakes. The mark of honorable businesses is how they deal with those affected by their errors. In this case it would have been very simple to honor their deal and change it to make better business sense.
    some guy in this forum screwed this promo for 30k in a few hours out of nothing!! that's how ridiculously flawed this promo was. who knows how many more there are like him. this is exactly like offering a favourite at odds of 18/1 instead of 1/18 and be expected by sbr to payout on this even though everyone with a sane mind could have smelt something was off ten miles away.
    could you elaborate on these similar events at cris and 5dimes? were the promos you are refering to really this obviously wrong?
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  15. 12-10-10 12:25 PM #15
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    I hate when these business lock your accounts, making a complain's on the phone is much harder than in person.

    this should never happen
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  16. 12-10-10 12:50 PM #16
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    Betfair, betcris, etc....are like banks!

    Banks don't lock your account's
    bad business practice and need to stop in this industry!
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  17. 12-10-10 01:00 PM #17
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    "While we are aware that this was not the outcome you were hoping for, we do now consider this matter closed, and shall not enter into further correspondence in connection with it."

    Wow. Wow.

    And then changing it so you can only use slots to meet rollover.

    But if that wasn't enough, retroactively applying new made up rules to previous players who used the promotion, and trying to confiscate their money. You see, if these rules were in place from the beginning, players never would've been able to cash out in the first place.
    Last edited by yisman; 12-10-10 at 02:49 PM. Reason: fixing typo. should say "now"
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  18. 12-10-10 01:07 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    for horses/tennis and soccer betfair is a must no matter who they scam

    IT IS A MUST

    Bad scam but what are you going to do
    jj shilling for shaky sportsbooks. What else is new?
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  19. 12-10-10 02:17 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by eavesdropper View Post
    This story made me to withdraw all my funds from Betfair, thanks for posting.
    you're the loser
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  20. 12-10-10 02:29 PM #20
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    "While we are aware that this was not the outcome you were hoping for, we do not consider this matter closed ....."

    so what more is happening ?
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  21. 12-10-10 02:34 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by eavesdropper View Post
    This story made me to withdraw all my funds from Betfair, thanks for posting.
    Use Your own sense. Nothing wrong with BF.
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  22. 12-10-10 02:38 PM #22
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    hmm thats interesting
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  23. 12-10-10 02:41 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    "While we are aware that this was not the outcome you were hoping for, we do not consider this matter closed ....."

    so what more is happening ?
    I think that is a misquote. All the emails I read said we consider this closed.
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  24. 12-10-10 02:41 PM #24
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    And an interesting twist to the censorship issue: while it is up at Youtube, you cannot find it via youtube search. I wonder if that is temporary.
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  25. 12-10-10 02:48 PM #25
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    Sorry, that was my typo. It should read "we do now consider the matter closed..."

    It's a very funny quote. "We're taking your money and there's nothing to discuss", basically.
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  26. 12-10-10 02:49 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    for horses/tennis and soccer betfair is a must no matter who they scam

    IT IS A MUST

    Bad scam but what are you going to do
    no it isn't.. way better options for those sports out there.. especially if you are in Europe..

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    I complained to Youtube about censoring my news story, and they reinstated it over the objections of whomever complained.
    I am glad you got it back up justin.. i was just about to offer you my account to place it back up until it got flagged ...

    Good Job Brother... I really wish I could tell you in person one day how much I respect and appreciate what you do for everyone...
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  27. 12-10-10 02:51 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    for horses/tennis and soccer betfair is a must no matter who they scam

    IT IS A MUST

    Bad scam but what are you going to do
    stfu
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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    Sorry, that was my typo. It should read "we do now consider the matter closed..."

    It's a very funny quote. "We're taking your money and there's nothing to discuss", basically.
    I think just about every bookie site has a statement in their T&C saying something along the lines that they can make up their own minds about an issue and that is the end of the matter.

    I still hold out hope that BF will be forced into to repaying customers.
    Someone should be organising a class action on this matter.
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  29. 12-10-10 04:09 PM #29
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    Thanks Justin for helping us players. I will not be using BetFair in the future , Im sure of that!
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  30. 12-10-10 04:18 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosniboR11 View Post
    great job justin 7


    is justin7 the most feared guy for offshore books???
    Yes.
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  31. 12-10-10 04:23 PM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    you're the loser

    Most accurate post of thread
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  32. 12-10-10 06:51 PM #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Most accurate post of thread
    not really - if you haven't the wit to work out that bf is rarely a MUST for soccer then
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  33. 12-10-10 07:01 PM #33
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    Justin is awesome, a wish that everyone at SBR would be that competent and honest.
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  34. 12-10-10 07:15 PM #34
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    you tube will take down anything if there are complaints
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  35. 12-10-10 07:24 PM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by potless View Post
    not really - if you haven't the wit to work out that bf is rarely a MUST for soccer then
    BF is very useful for soccer but when compared to several other sports, most notably racing, and including tennis, golf, F1, AFL, NRL not quite a MUST, but overall they are most definitely a MUST for any serious punter.
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