06-26-08, 10:43 AM
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Problem with bwin(they limited me to 25 eur bets!!)
I reached ~1000 euros on my account(won just too much lately). I was betting with 100 eur and 200 eur bets. Why do they do this? So I have to just cash out and choose another bookie, like bet365?  Or make a new account on my brothers name and try again(will start with 100 euros)? They won't limit me again until 1000 euros???  Now stakes are just too low and I cannot make any money 
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06-26-08, 10:44 AM
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Tkt, 1st off congrats on the success. Look at it as a positive. Bet365 will be quick to cut you as well from what I've read, but to be honest I'm not too familiar with all the different Euro books as far as what to suggest.
Do you play at Pinnacle though?
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06-26-08, 11:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyl
Tkt, 1st off congrats on the success. Look at it as a positive. Bet365 will be quick to cut you as well from what I've read, but to be honest I'm not too familiar with all the different Euro books as far as what to suggest.
Do you play at Pinnacle though?
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well who won't cut me then?? Are you sure they will cut you anyway? Betfair?? I just don't like this. Only way to make money now through value bets(odds 2.00 and better)  I have been to bet365 and they have never cut me... (Highest my account was ~1300 euros and then I just managed to loose it all, but they didn't limit me). I just had no success there, those kind of bets will not give me easy wins like bwin does
Pinnacle don't have live bets, I almost use only live betting!
The problem with bet365 is IMO that they don't have the exact same live bets(under/over throw-ins, goal kicks, next corner) and they don't have live beach volleyball bets
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06-26-08, 11:57 AM
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If you don't want to get cut, play at Cris, Olympic or Pinnacle.
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06-26-08, 01:19 PM
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Without any magniloquence, I can say I'm a real bwin expert (play since 2003, but nowadays I rarely bet there..) My experience is they won't limit just because you win... They will cut your limits, if you take a "cheating" bet (event already finished, or very wrong odds.. in live betting they often make mistakes), or you write to the support!! I suggest open a new account (no problem the same name, they don't care), never bet on mistakes, and never send email to the support, and they will never limit you...
bet 3.65 is a shit.. one of the fastest limiter bookie, leave them..
bwin have next corner, throw ins, etc.. but only on the EC... you will have to wait months until you see these bets again at a Champions League match.
Otherwise all euro bookies hate the winners, and will cut your limits (sooner or later). Nowadays I play at Unibet, their live betting is very good, easy to win... but I have to keep my balance in minus, that's why I try to transfer the money to betfair. Example today I bet Bammer at unibet , and Peng at Betfair.. fortunatly peng won (she was the probable winner pre-match), but the money transfer would be much easier with a Premier League weekend! (Just 1.5 month, and starts). Also Unibet have next goal Draw no bet in football (oops.. soccer!), or actual game winner (they update it at every point) in live tennis. I recommend them!
Unfortunatly this money transfering does not work at shit bookies like bet 3.65 or ladcrocks... they will cut your limits whatever you win or lose...
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06-26-08, 01:52 PM
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How can I not send email to the bwin support, if I have to change moneybookers payout email? There isn't another option!!! I didn't know about that!!!  So Unibet won't limit you?
Last edited by tkt; 06-26-08 at 01:57 PM.
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06-26-08, 02:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tkt
How can I not send email to the bwin support, if I have to change moneybookers payout email? There isn't another option!!! I didn't know about that!!!  So Unibet won't limit you?
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Have you called them to request the Moneybookers change sir? Also, Unibet does offer fair limits and are a lot more tolerable when it comes to having your limits cut.
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06-26-08, 02:45 PM
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Ask bank transfer for withdrawal...
until i keep my balance in minus (i mean below the deposit amounts) , they won't limit me imho
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06-26-08, 03:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboydan
Have you called them to request the Moneybookers change sir? Also, Unibet does offer fair limits and are a lot more tolerable when it comes to having your limits cut.
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Dan, you are absolutly right!  Not comparable with the crap UK "bookies"  Also in live betting you can bet with almost unlimited amount (There is max stake limit, but if the odds has been changed, you can bet again, that's why I like Unibet)
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06-26-08, 05:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboydan
Have you called them to request the Moneybookers change sir? Also, Unibet does offer fair limits and are a lot more tolerable when it comes to having your limits cut.
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No I sent email to the support. That's all with bwin, will make a payout to moneybookers and will go to Unibet. And will never be back to this STUPID place  Crappy odds also in bwin  For many losses you have to bet even more to get it back 
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06-27-08, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Teddy_KGB
or you write to the support!! I suggest open a new account (no problem the same name, they don't care), never bet on mistakes, and never send email to the support, and they will never limit you...
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Can you please expand on some of this? You can have your limits cut and then just open a new account with the same details?
Also, what has sending an email to support go to do with having your limits cut? What kind of email?
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06-27-08, 07:49 AM
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1 : Yes. But if you have wife or a trustable friend, rather choose them.
2 : Whatever what you send. If you have a question, send it from a different mail adress, without your name.
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06-27-08, 10:26 AM
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06-27-08, 11:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin7
If you don't want to get cut, play at Cris, Olympic or Pinnacle.
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Also, Diamond (2betdsi.com) and Matchbook (matchbook.com) will not limit you/screw you
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06-27-08, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamPlayer
Also, Diamond (2betdsi.com) and Matchbook (matchbook.com) will not limit you/screw you
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Lets not forget to mention the best of them all and apparently he can play there, and thats BetFair.
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06-27-08, 02:02 PM
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BWin usually take a few days to process payouts, Moneybookers or not.
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06-28-08, 06:36 AM
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from my experience, bwin cuts limits quite fast while unibet takes a while with it and you can always request a bigger stake (not in live betting) which gets approved in some 25% of cases. Expekt is much better with limits and they usually approve the bigger stakes (some 75 % of cases) at least up to some amount. however, in live bets you cannot get bigger stakes
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06-28-08, 12:40 PM
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200Euro bets are unlikely to get you limited at any decent UK book, unless you are backing out of line odds on obscure leagues.
Don't get sucked in by bonus offers from less well known European bookies. I've been dicked by goldvictory recently (see another thread). Others have had big problems with betchance and playbanks.
But, yeah, betfair is the best. Although you can't go wrong with the likes of Ladbrokes, William Hill, Totesport, Coral and Paddy Power. All have a substantial high street shop presence in the UK.
I'm sure you'll get paid out by bwin in the end.
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06-28-08, 03:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TruckerJoe
But, yeah, betfair is the best. Although you can't go wrong with the likes of Ladbrokes, William Hill, Totesport, Coral and Paddy Power. All have a substantial high street shop presence in the UK.
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Totesport, Coral, Paddy Power and nearly all british books are joke books who limit winners soon.
I would suggest you to use Centrebet (from Australia) if you like a european style book for soccer.
Unibet and Expekt are better than british books but limit more early than Centrebet.
If you like to place bigger bets or bet live then asian books are the best.
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06-30-08, 05:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teddy_KGB
Nowadays I play at Unibet, their live betting is very good, easy to win...
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If I could ask you another question: what do you like about live betting that makes it easy to win? I have never really paid that much attention to live betting before.
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06-30-08, 06:00 PM
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Take it as a compliment that they cut your max bet.
Their are lots of better places to bet as stated above.
I wouldn't open another account with them
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