[Ragnarok]

I can't stop hearing about this Joba guy. Yankees prospects, as with the Yankees in general - are always hyped, but then again the few that NY doesn't buy and actually grow that get this buzz usual turn out to be legit (Jeter, Rivera, Pettite, Soriano, Cano (maybe?)) Considering he's pitching a gem tonight (granted against the Pirates) I figure I'd get some opinions. I'll bump this thread in 5 years.

How good will he be?

[ryanXL977]

this guy is good. maybe they finaly have an ace.

[EaglesPhan36]

Saw him pitch in person in Houston. He's impressive and should only get better with improved stamina. Not ready to annoint him an ace quite yet, but he certainly looks to be an anchor for the Yanks staff that sorely needs one with Wang down.

[pat venditto]

will be an ace or strong 2 no doubt u ignorant retards saying he wont should get a brain

[pavyracer]

They said the same staff about Mark Prior when he broke into the majors.

[pat venditto]

pavy go lay in the mud with pigs u had the buccos in the underdog contest u square

[pavyracer]

But I bet $1000 Yankees RL.

[pat venditto]

ok well then i guess u get a high 5

[element1286]

Should be an ace, needs to develop the curve though.

[pavyracer]

Originally Posted by pat venditto

ok well then i guess u get a high 5

What I meant is that it's too early to tell how well will he develop. You can't tell how good or bad is after 5 starts.

[ryanXL977]

mark prior was a stud
he got hurt
he was the best pitcher in mlb

[element1286]

I'd rather have Clay Bucholtz or Chad Billingsley though.

[pat venditto]

no way element layoff the highsheesh

[element1286]

Originally Posted by pat venditto

no way element layoff the highsheesh

Joba's only got two pitches right now, you can't be a starter only throwing two pitches. I expect his curve to get better, and it looked decent tonight, but I'll take Bucholtz or Billingsley.

[ryanXL977]

clay bucholz or billingsley? are yous erious? have you watched them all?

[element1286]

Originally Posted by ryanXL977

clay bucholz or billingsley? are yous erious? have you watched them all?

Oops, I just realized I have been saying Billingsley, I was thinking of Kershaw and typing Billingsley. But I would still take Bucholtz over Chamberlain.

[jjgold]

I think he can have a good 5 year run or so, without steroids now will be hard for power pitchers to have any longevity.

[Doc JS]

Originally Posted by pavyracer

They said the same staff about Mark Prior when he broke into the majors.

Pavy,
You're 100% right, of course. The key is health. If he stays healthy, he's got a shot to be very good for a long time.

Doc

[CashMoney]

Originally Posted by element1286

Joba's only got two pitches right now, you can't be a starter only throwing two pitches. I expect his curve to get better, and it looked decent tonight, but I'll take Bucholtz or Billingsley.

Joba has 4 pitches....he only used two when he was setting up Mo. Fastball, Slider, Curve and a Change Up. When he was pitching out of the pen he was only using his fastball and slider.

He's going to be legit and he looks like he's getting more comfortable with every start.

[DazeyBlazer]

hes not legit..hes been playing awful teams and loading up the bases...hes been getting out of jams, that wll seize to continue...

[BrentCrude]

He looks like an overweight guy that's straining himself on the mound.I have seen guys like this in high school baseball and they all got abdominal problems with hernias and such.I know,David Wells lasted a long time as a whale.Mark my word,Joba will get a hernia before the season is over and will be on the DL list.

Any sportsbook want to give me odds on the chances of Joba getting a hernia before season's end?Oh,I forgot,they call them sports hernias in sports.Hell,I have been hearing allot about women in sports getting them.What's that all about,I thought women weren't supposed to get them?

[Ragnarok]

Bump.

[jjgold]

Well in his starts he has been the best start for start pitcher in baseball, the question is without steroids how long can he do this?

3 years maybe?

[ICE-BLOOD]

joba's a tough dude. he throws real hard. He's convinced me ever since no more 60 pitch max

[AnotherLoan]

Too bad he is a little punk. How many times is he going to throw at Youkilis?

[ICE-BLOOD]

i like the fire he brings

[AnotherLoan]

I don't mind if he throws at someone like Milton Bradley, but not a good man like Youk.

[Sinister Cat]

I'm not a Yankees fan, but I really think this guy is going to be the top pitcher of the next decade. His stuff is so ridiculous. He's basically impossible to hit a homerun off. Roy Halladay's groundball rate, with Johan Santana's strikeout rate.

[ryanXL977]

the guy is jake peavy ! he is a bad ass

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by AnotherLoan

Too bad he is a little punk. How many times is he going to throw at Youkilis?

LOL

Yeah he is a fiery player.

[rjt721]

Best pitcher ever. Will easily break Cy Young's all-time wins record.

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by rjt721

Best pitcher ever. Will easily break Cy Young's all-time wins record.

[ryanXL977]

he didnt throw at youk last night
that would cost them the game possibly

[Kingctb27]

Ace, and nothing short of it. He's got 4 awesome pitches and it usually only takes 3 to be an ace. I wouldn't worry about an injury as much as I would some other guys like Lincecum because of his Body type.

[ryanXL977]

lincecum has never been hurt in his life though
i mean, honestly, name me some guys who got hurt bc of their body type?

i cant think of any