[BadBeatBodog]

I'm watching the Cardinals' line on 5D and it's slowly dropping; from -118 to -116 in ten or so minutes. Similar situation to CHC-LAD in that I've seen most people on STL.

[5 star bomb]

thats why i dont watch the all star game!
royals should not have a player in it, yet they will
rockies should not either, but they will
nats hsouldnt
etc

Soria on KC definitely deserves to be in the ASG

[5 star bomb]

i think he is surely top 10
to me, average is pedro feliz or hank blalock or arod

actually arod is awful

Dude are you serious? Pedro Feliz is a stud defensively at 3b. One of the best in the league

[ryanXL977]

i dont agree
feliz is avergae to me

rolen and chavy ARE THE CLASS of all time

[ryanXL977]

i would also say zambrano is pretty overrated

[5 star bomb]

i would also say zambrano is pretty overrated

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[fifawcs]

Are you kidding me? Arod is the best player in Major League Baseball hands down. He has speed, power, contact, defense, and he is a lot more clutch than people give him credit for.

[pimike]

Forget Arod here where talking about Cubs and Dogers,

SEE THAT GREAT DOUBLE PLAY???

[ryanXL977]

arod is the worst fielding 3b in the majors
he is awful

[5 star bomb]

arod is the worst fielding 3b in the majors
he is awful

Please take down your Cubs avatar. You are a disgrace to Cubs fans for calling Zambrano overrated...

[ryanXL977]

zambranos best year is 18 wins, and he lost 13. i am not a big wins guy, but
but a career whip of 1.28 is good not great
a career era of 3.35 is good not great

he is a good pitcher, a very good one
but nowhere near top 5 or 10
not even close

being a fan of a team doesnt mean being a homer and saying they are the best if they are not
they have a very good team, but zambrano is a very good pitcher
his numbers show that

[BadBeatBodog]

Forget Arod here where talking about Cubs and Dogers,

SEE THAT GREAT DOUBLE PLAY???

[5 star bomb]

zambranos best year is 18 wins, and he lost 13. i am not a big wins guy, but
but a career whip of 1.28 is good not great
a career era of 3.35 is good not great

he is a good pitcher, a very good one
but nowhere near top 5 or 10
not even close

being a fan of a team doesnt mean being a homer and saying they are the best if they are not
they have a very good team, but zambrano is a very good pitcher
his numbers show that

[ryanXL977]

arod is the least clutch, least winning player ever
he is a starts machine who strikes out everytime it matters
check out his wonderful playoff career

he is an atrocious 3b

[ryanXL977]

great retort 5 star

still waiting to show me how zambrano is a top 5 pitcher

[BadBeatBodog]

zambranos best year is 18 wins, and he lost 13. i am not a big wins guy, but
but a career whip of 1.28 is good not great
a career era of 3.35 is good not great

he is a good pitcher, a very good one
but nowhere near top 5 or 10
not even close

being a fan of a team doesnt mean being a homer and saying they are the best if they are not
they have a very good team, but zambrano is a very good pitcher
his numbers show that

He's thrown 200+ IP five straight years with OPS+'s of 139, 160, 135, 136, 118. According to baseball-reference.com the most similar pitcher to Zambrano is Jake Peavy.

[5 star bomb]

great retort 5 star

still waiting to show me how zambrano is a top 5 pitcher

Top 5 is debatable... but he is DEFINITELY a top 10... However I think he is top 5

[ryanXL977]

mayeb top 10. maybe. i like him, always have. but top 5 aint debateable
top 10 maybe

durability wise, yes he is

[5 star bomb]

lol i take what you say with a grain of salt though no offense... you said Pedro Feliz was an average defender at 3b.... lol

[ryanXL977]

pedro feliz is an avg defensive 3b. absolutely. i live in sf, i have seen him for 5 years
he aitn chavy, rolen, or crede, the top 3 by a mile.

i am not a homer
i dont blindly support anyone
i watch all the teams. my opinions aint biased unlike some peoples

hint!

[BadBeatBodog]

Durability wise? You realize not getting injured is part of the evaluation process? Being able to consistently throw that many innings with low ERAs is HUGE. Otherwise Chris Young and Rich Harden are the best pitchers in their respective leagues.

[ryanXL977]

no, chris young isnt close top the best., healthy or not
and rich harden has never throw 35 games, s nobody is discussing him.

so i should count zambrano even though he blows up ever 4th game? but bc he throws 200 innings, that moves him up the rankings?

i dont agree

[BadBeatBodog]

pedro feliz is an avg defensive 3b. absolutely. i live in sf, i have seen him for 5 years
he aitn chavy, rolen, or crede, the top 3 by a mile.

i am not a homer
i dont blindly support anyone
i watch all the teams. my opinions aint biased unlike some peoples

hint!

But what makes you the man to evaluate a player's defense? I will follow saber stats over 1,000 people's opinions of a player, and saber stats show Feliz is a very good defender.

[BadBeatBodog]

no, chris young isnt close top the best., healthy or not
and rich harden has never throw 35 games, s nobody is discussing him.

so i should count zambrano even though he blows up ever 4th game? but bc he throws 200 innings, that moves him up the rankings?

i dont agree

forget it

[ryanXL977]

dude
its my opinion, you can have yours
nothing i say or anyone says is proveable regarding who is the best 3b
but i have seen them all and i have never seen anyone as good as rolen or chavez

does sabermetrics say youkilis is a good 1b bc he makes no errrors? would you really take him over derek lee or mark teixera or kotchman or another good 1b bc of his fielding %?

[5 star bomb]

im not a homer because I think Z is a top 5 pitcher... ask non Cubs fans and they will admit Z is a top 5 sp

[BadBeatBodog]

dude
its my opinion, you can have yours
nothing i say or anyone says is proveable regarding who is the best 3b
but i have seen them all and i have never seen anyone as good as rolen or chavez

does sabermetrics say youkilis is a good 1b bc he makes no errrors? would you really take him over derek lee or mark teixera or kotchman or another good 1b bc of his fielding %?

Fielding percentage and errors are horrible to go off of. Do you know what saber stats are? NOT RBI, HR, SB, ERA, etc... If you cap based off numbers like HR, RBI, etc... remind me not to follow you.

[5 star bomb]

Soriano looked absolutely pathetic on the first at bat.

HR SORIANO!!!!!!!!!!

[pimike]

HR SORIANO!!!!!!!!!!

[j$]

2-2 ..thats what happens when u **** around in the dugout and play games

[j$]

Zambrano is a dumb ass

[pimike]

Dodgers will win now this is Zambrano's last inning.

[pimike]

Typical Zambrano collapse.

Collapse, two runs. That makes only 5 runs against the Dodgers in over 35 innings..

[j$]

Dodgers will win now this is Zambrano's last inning.