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    Quote Originally Posted by shifer View Post
    what home crowd? Its played in Switzerland: That being said, Germany will go through. Never ever underestimate the power of playoff experience. Germany is a machine when it comes to that.
    Once again superior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Thursday Quarter Final:

    Portugal to advance -130 to win $500 LOSS
    Portugal over 2 -110 to win $100 WIN

    Props:

    Portugal more corners than Germany -140 to win $100 WIN

    At Risk: $900
    Balance: $12020
    New Balance: $12470 Net Gain: 24.7%

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifer View Post
    Once again superior.
    So true ... we had faith in Gay Ronaldo

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    New Balance: $12470 Net Gain: 24.7%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark79 View Post
    Thanks Sharky. You do realise I lost $450 today, right? We will get them tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fifawcs View Post
    now Klose's out. This isn't looking that great for Germany.
    This is the kind of comments that makes people that know soccer like me frustrated..Yes Klose went out. But this was for tactical reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Thanks Sharky. You do realise I lost $450 today, right? We will get them tomorrow.
    Yes I did ... but u still have a positive balance, therefore, its still a good day .. IMO.

    I broke even ... Im wagering enuff on the OVER/UNDER to cover my pk and advance.

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    Friday Quarter Final:

    Croatia to advance -190 to win $500
    Croatia ML -110 to win $500

    Props:

    Will a player be sent off during match? CRO vs TUR Yes +250 to win $125

    At Risk: $1550
    Balance: $10920

    After watching Germany today, which Croatia destroyed and Portugal, which destroyed Turkey I decided to add to my original Croatia to advance bet with a very generous -110 Croatia ML. Turkey's squad is depleted and the back up Turk goalie is worse than Nicopolidis cousin.
    Last edited by pavyracer; 06-20-08 at 07:31 AM. Reason: added props

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Friday Quarter Final:

    Croatia to advance -190 to win $500
    Croatia ML -110 to win $500

    Props:

    Will post tomorrow when they become available

    At Risk: $1500
    Balance: $10970

    After watching Germany today, which Croatia destroyed and Portugal, which destroyed Turkey I decided to add to my original Croatia to advance bet with a very generous -110 Croatia ML. Turkey's squad is depleted and the back up Turk goalie is worse than Nicopolidis cousin.
    These are probably the worst arguments you find in soccer. Just because team A beats team B it doesnt mean they beat team c. In the playoffs, the real stars will shine and experience will count, Germany has them both. Turkey is also going up at the moment, and will be hard to be beat. There are no clear winners at this stage, wide open, so go with the dog. To call Recber worse than Nicopolidis cousin, just proves how big of a joke you are. At this stage Experience is everything, Recber with over 100 caps has it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifer View Post
    These are probably the worst arguments you find in soccer. Just because team A beats team B it doesnt mean they beat team c. In the playoffs, the real stars will shine and experience will count, Germany has them both. Turkey is also going up at the moment, and will be hard to be beat. There are no clear winners at this stage, wide open, so go with the dog. To call Recber worse than Nicopolidis cousin, just proves how big of a joke you are. At this stage Experience is everything, Recber with over 100 caps has it all.
    Put your money on Turkey pal. There are some great odds still offered for Turkey to win or advance. I have faith in Turkey clown goalie that he will deliver for me. He is worse than a donkey.

    I'm in a situation where I have the upper hand against my book based on my bankroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Put your money on Turkey pal. There are some great odds still offered for Turkey to win or advance. I have faith in Turkey clown goalie that will he deliver for me. He is worse than a donkey.

    I'm in a situation where I have the upper hand against my book based on my bankroll.
    you are also in a position where you have everything to loose. Favorites dominated the group stage, but this playoff is wideopen, and you would be total idiot to not go with the dogs. Germany delivered for me today, Turkey tomorrow. This will be a semfinal clash between Turkey and Germany, and as we know, half of the population in Germany are turks, so it will be crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiveteamer View Post
    pavy is chasing...
    How I am chasing when I made the Croatia bet to advance for $950 on Tuesday and I'm up $2500 for the tournament?

    You can't chase when you have the upper hand against the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifer View Post
    you are also in a position where you have everything to loose. Favorites dominated the group stage, but this playoff is wideopen, and you would be total idiot to not go with the dogs. Germany delivered for me today, Turkey tomorrow. This will be a semfinal clash between Turkey and Germany, and as we know, half of the population in Germany are turks, so it will be crazy.
    Have you ever seen Croatia play? They have dominated both Germany and Austria and they beat Poland with their reserves. They beat both Russia and England to advance from the qualifiers. Turkey came from the same group as Greece on qualifiers and it wasn't the best team. Turkey's coach is not even liked by his own fans. He has 7 players unavailable for tomorrow's game. Turkey has no depth in their squad and they played horrible except the last 15 minutes of Czech game where they got lucky when Cech couldn't hold on a simple ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Have you ever seen Croatia play? They have dominated both Germany and Austria and they beat Poland with their reserves. They beat both Russia and England to advance from the qualifiers. Turkey came from the same group as Greece on qualifiers and it wasn't the best team. Turkey's coach is not even liked by his own fans. He has 7 players unavailable for tomorrow's game. Turkey has no depth in their squad and they played horrible except the last 15 minutes of Czech game where they got lucky when Cech couldn't hold on a simple ball.
    Do you understand the concept of soccer and playoff? At this stage what happened at group stage doesnt matter. Turkey has depth, I have seen them 3 times in stadium, have you? And Im not even turk. To beat England these days are nothing.

    They did not beat Russia, both matches ended 0-0..check your facts for once.

    When Turkey come so many times from behind, you think it is just pure luck? Think again, look at teams like Manchester United.

    Another thing, they did not dominate Austria, in fact all experts claimed Croatia ran out of steam, and 2nd half was all Austria.

    Anyway, value is at Turkey and value will prevail in these playoffs. Turkeys coach is experienced, Bilic hardly been there.

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    And Recber had clean sheet in 4 out of 5 qualification matches, and has played several tournaments before..you still call him clown..check your fact.

    I advise all posters to fade Pavyracers soccer picks in the playoffs.

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    CROATIA TMRW
    i am in your boat too, i have enough money now to make sure i dont lose

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    Shifer, you are a joke. You are advicing everyone to fade my plays but you won't risk a dollar of your own money on Turkey ML which is juicy. Put your mouth to your money. You are in no position to advise anyone if you don't show people some green.

    And is not the playoffs moron. It's the elimination round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Shifer, you are a joke. You are advicing everyone to fade my plays but you won't risk a dollar of your own money on Turkey ML which is juicy. Put your mouth to your money. You are in no position to advise anyone if you don't show people some green.

    And is not the playoffs moron. It's the elimination round.
    Whatever, you know what I meant..playoff/elimination..I was on Germany today, Turkey tomorrow.

    You end up with 1 dollar plus bragging about how you beat the book.

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    thnx pavy.
    I've gone with your picks a few times and came up positive on my bankroll. Although i dont have much knowledge in terms of soccer and the teams. I do enjoy watching the games with a small wager to make the game a bit more exciting. Once again, thanks! Keep up the good work.
    Any advice on the o/u for today's game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifer View Post
    Whatever, you know what I meant..playoff/elimination..I was on Germany today, Turkey tomorrow.

    You end up with 1 dollar plus bragging about how you beat the book.
    Shifer, you are an idiot. You come onto this board and start telling everyone how to bet when meanwhile you have no track record. We have been doing this since the tourney started, you haven't done crap. Croatia people like myself will expect an apology when they advance to the semis.

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    Croatia was at about -190 now they are at -120. What's up with that?

    BTW I think Croatia wins this one, obviousy Turkey has pulled the wins off at the last minute but here about 5 players are out and they're playing with the backup keeper while Croatia is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZXCVBNM123 View Post
    Croatia was at about -190 now they are at -120. What's up with that?

    BTW I think Croatia wins this one, obviousy Turkey has pulled the wins off at the last minute but here about 5 players are out and they're playing with the backup keeper while Croatia is the same.
    I think I explained this yesterday to kid dynamite but let me do this once more.

    Croatia -190 is to advance to the next round. If the game is tied after regulation there is overtime and then shootout if needed.

    Croatia -120 is ML. They must win in regulation time.

    PS. Croatia is not actually in the same situation as Turkey. They actually rested their starters on last game whereas Turkey had to hang on with their life on last game against Czech. Their starters are beat up.
    Last edited by pavyracer; 06-20-08 at 10:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I think I explained this yesterday to kid dynamite but let be do this once more.

    Croatia -190 is to advance to the next round. If the game is tied after regulation there is overtime and then shootout if needed.

    Croatia -120 is ML. They must win in regulation time.

    PS. Croatia is not actually in the same situation as Turkey. They actually rested their starters on last game whereas Turkey had to hang on with their life on last game against Czech. Their starters are beat up.
    You mean, like Portugal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alton618 View Post
    thnx pavy.
    I've gone with your picks a few times and came up positive on my bankroll. Although i dont have much knowledge in terms of soccer and the teams. I do enjoy watching the games with a small wager to make the game a bit more exciting. Once again, thanks! Keep up the good work.
    Any advice on the o/u for today's game?
    I think if there is a goal early the game goes over like previous Turkey's games. I don't know if Turkey has enough fire power to score against this Croatia team. Croatia may score 3 goals on their own. I don't have an opinion on over/under. I placed a small bet on having a red card in this game on my prop picks. These two do not like each other. I expect a holy war on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiveteamer View Post
    You mean, like Portugal?
    Yes. Croatia played a tough match against Germany their previous game and were beat up. They needed their starters to rest for the crucial match against beat up Turkey today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifer View Post
    Do you understand the concept of soccer and playoff?
    Quote Originally Posted by fifawcs View Post
    Shifer, you are an idiot. You come onto this board and start telling everyone how to bet when meanwhile you have no track record. We have been doing this since the tourney started, you haven't done crap.
    Bingo!

    A guy with no record to speak of is telling established cappers they are clueless. Charming isn't he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I think I explained this yesterday to kid dynamite but let me do this once more.

    Croatia -190 is to advance to the next round. If the game is tied after regulation there is overtime and then shootout if needed.

    Croatia -120 is ML. They must win in regulation time.

    PS. Croatia is not actually in the same situation as Turkey. They actually rested their starters on last game whereas Turkey had to hang on with their life on last game against Czech. Their starters are beat up.
    Ah sorry if you read that wrong.

    Yesterday the odds were at -190 but now thye've moved up to -120. I was wondering what might have triggered this, cause IMO Turkey have nothing going for them (better for Croatia supportes though!)

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    Morning Euro followers

    Here are my picks for today!!

    Croatia pk -250 (gave that since yesterday) .. just checked and its at -300
    OVER +130 - This here has great value. Turkey received 5 gols in 1st round and made the same amount of gols. On the other hand Croacia received only 1 but made 4. I see this baby going over and the value is worth it.

    GL to all !!!
    Last edited by Shark79; 06-20-08 at 12:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZXCVBNM123 View Post
    Ah sorry if you read that wrong.

    Yesterday the odds were at -190 but now thye've moved up to -120. I was wondering what might have triggered this, cause IMO Turkey have nothing going for them (better for Croatia supportes though!)
    If the odds were -190 for Croatia ML it must have been an error by your book. I got the Croatia ML at -110 yesterday afternoon and is at -120 right now. The Croatia to advance started at -190 when I grabbed it on Tuesday and it has been as high as -230 today.

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