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    Talking The official BIG BROWN will NOT place thread...

    Cracked hoof, the dream crumbles...

    Toughest race in his bitch ass life...

    This horse isn't placing...

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    No way this horse should be backed...

    Lucky to finish top 5 here..

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    I don't think anyone in there right mind would NOT run this race even over a broken fingernail!
    There is too much money, history & fame in this last race to win the Triple Crown! The way Big Brown had demolished the previous fields I say they can race him on 3 legs & still Win the Race!

    Let's see how it all plays out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyl View Post
    Lucky to finish top 5 here..
    This could end up with Chauncey on the notable quotables list.

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    OK I'm officially honored, UltimateSelector has replied to one of my threads. This is better than my first 150 reply thread.

    I am no horse guru like you, but I just really have a feeling a letdown is in the cards here...


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyl View Post

    This horse isn't placing...
    Your right; He's gonna win

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    I MIGHTtake a shot against him myself, but if I do, it will be with a fresh horse that did not race in the Preakness.

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    quarter crack isn't that serious and he will be fine by Belmont time.

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    like a cracked fingernail...it depends on how far up the hoof the crack has traveled.

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    There might not even be 5 horses in this race...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateSelector View Post
    I don't think anyone in there right mind would NOT run this race even over a broken fingernail!
    There is too much money, history & fame in this last race to win the Triple Crown! The way Big Brown had demolished the previous fields I say they can race him on 3 legs & still Win the Race!

    Let's see how it all plays out!
    Great post! Probably one of the only ones that makes sense lately!

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    Sat 6/7 Will Big Brown win Belmont by 4½ lengths or more?
    03:00 PM 31 Yes +132
    32 No -142

    you guys should load up on this prop

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    Atleast The Excuse Is Already In Place When He Comes Up Short In The Belmont

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerboydist View Post
    Atleast The Excuse Is Already In Place When He Comes Up Short In The Belmont
    Welcome to the forum...

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    the owner said he is going to race BB after the Belmont if he makes it safely.He said he would like to see a matchup between BB and Curlin.

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    Do you mean will not place or will not race?
    175 pts

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    SBR TRIVIA WINNER 05/28/2012


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    Quote Originally Posted by 3PtShooter View Post
    Casino Drive
    yes sir. thats who i like

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Do you mean will not place or will not race?
    even if the horse is dead, they'll still put it a wheel barrel and push it down the track. it has to race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picoman View Post
    even if the horse is dead, they'll still put it a wheel barrel and push it down the track. it has to race.
    Stud fees far outweigh winning Belmont. This is a 50 million dollar non race. If BB breaks down, that is 50 Million down the drain for 1 million in purse. Do the math.
    175 pts

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    SBR TRIVIA WINNER 05/28/2012


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    Quote Originally Posted by bbyhill View Post
    the owner said he is going to race BB after the Belmont if he makes it safely.He said he would like to see a matchup between BB and Curlin.


    said he is wanting to run him in the BC Classic wich will be at SA this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Stud fees far outweigh winning Belmont. This is a 50 million dollar non race. If BB breaks down, that is 50 Million down the drain for 1 million in purse. Do the math.
    my bad...yeah, i guess it won't run if it is something really serious. at kentucky derby, i heard this is a 30 million dollar horse though.

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    In an apparent indication that a quarter crack injury to his left front hoof is responding well to treatment so far, Big Brown, the Kentucky Derby and Preakness Stakes winner, went back to the track for a jog at Belmont Park on Tuesday, at least one day earlier than expected.

    Big Brown, who has won all five of his starts, on June 7 in the Belmont Stakes will attempt to become Thoroughbred racing's 12th Triple Crown winner, and the first in 30 years. But Big Brown's path to the Belmont had an unexpected detour put in his way last weekend, when he developed the quarter crack. Big Brown did not train on Saturday, Sunday, or Monday.

    On Tuesday morning, Big Brown jogged once around Belmont Park's 1 1/2-mile main track - which was rated fast despite rain the previous night - under exercise rider Michelle Nevin. A jog is less demanding than a routine gallop.

    "His foot was good enough to go jog," Richard Dutrow Jr., the trainer of Big Brown, said Tuesday afternoon. "I thought we'd try that and see. I didn't see that as a bad move. If the foot looks as good [Wednesday], I would look to gallop him."

    Dutrow said Big Brown's left front foot was not carrying any heat after he was walked around the shed row at a Belmont Park barn on Monday afternoon. Dutrow then called Ian McKinlay, the hoof specialist who is repairing the quarter crack, and asked if he could jog the horse on Tuesday. McKinlay, who worked on Big Brown on Monday morning and had appointments at Monmouth Park on Tuesday, gave Dutrow the okay over the phone. McKinlay was expected to see Big Brown again on Wednesday.

    "I felt the horse going to the track was not only good for his conditioning but also good for his mind," Dutrow said. "He's been kind of aggravated. He doesn't know why he's not going to the track. He just doesn't understand why he's not doing it. We can't explain it to him and we just let him go out there today and take the edge off him. He's getting too rough around the barn."

    The quarter crack was officially announced on Sunday, after Big Brown missed a second day of training. For three days, he was limited to walking around the shed row twice a day. Big Brown's left front hoof, meanwhile, was treated with alcohol and iodine to make sure the crack stayed clean and does not get infected. On Monday, McKinlay used a set of steel sutures to bring the quarter crack together, a precursor to putting an acrylic patch over the crack later this week.

    "Ian will do it [Wednesday] or Thursday or Friday, depending on what he sees when he's underneath Big Brown," Dutrow said.

    Dutrow said the time off should not impact Big Brown's performance in the Belmont. He had originally scheduled a workout for Big Brown this weekend, but the delay to repair the quarter crack may push back that timetable.

    "I don't know - it could be Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday depending on the weather," Dutrow said. "If I had everything I would want, I would like it Monday."

    Michael Iavarone, the co-president of the IEAH Stables partnership that owns Big Brown, on Tuesday said, "We were concerned on Friday when the quarter crack was first discovered. But Ian McKinlay had told us then that this was a straightforward quarter crack. He has been on top of it ever since.

    "Rick said he could breeze anytime up to Tuesday. We weren't concerned about the track today, even with the rain last night. The track wasn't that bad, and quite frankly, as aggressive as he's been, it was safer for him to be on the track than in the barn."

    Expected to challenge Big Brown in the Belmont are Anak Nakal, Casino Drive, Denis of Cork, Icabad Crane, Macho Again, Tale of Ekati, and Tomcito, and possibly Ready's Echo and Spark Candle.

    Casino Drive, the winner of the Peter Pan Stakes and the likely second choice to Big Brown in the Belmont, was scheduled to have a workout on Wednesday at Belmont Park, but possible wet weather might force a postponement by a day, according to Nobutaka Tada, the spokesman for the connections of Casino Drive.

    "It will all depend on the weather and the track," Tada said. "If it is good, we will go out. If not, we'll wait another day or so."

    No rider has yet been announced for Casino Drive. Kent Desormeaux rode Casino Drive in the Peter Pan, but he is the regular rider for Big Brown. Edgar Prado and Japanese jockey Yutaka Take are considered the leading contenders to ride Casino Drive, though Desormeaux would become a viable option if Big Brown were to suffer a setback and miss the Belmont.

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    He will win this is just more to hype his victory after its over. a feel good story about the valiant competitor who fought through injury to obtain the greatest prize in sports

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    The DRF peeps that talked to the owner said he will be raced after the Belmont.The owner said he wants to give the fans something back.

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    anyone know how deep is the crack?
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    you would be surprised... I have been around horses for quite some time... a cracked hoof isnt that big of a deal, it can be fixed rather quickly, they are expecting him to be good and ready to go... I mean the horse is a machine.. he already has special shoes BECAUSE of his feet... i think this horse is still a triple crown contender... no doubt..

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    All I can say is I hope people get scared and I can get 1-1 or 3/2 because of this because i will load up on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyl View Post
    JRS the dream is over let it go. This horse had its day.
    I'm pretty knowledgeable on horses, trust me.. If it were that big of a deal they would have scratched him already.. he has almost 2 weeks to recover... My g/f owns 33 horses...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRS21386 View Post
    you would be surprised... I have been around horses for quite some time... a cracked hoof isnt that big of a deal, it can be fixed rather quickly, they are expecting him to be good and ready to go... I mean the horse is a machine.. he already has special shoes BECAUSE of his feet... i think this horse is still a triple crown contender... no doubt..
    how many lengths do you think big brown will win by?

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    Quote Originally Posted by picoman View Post
    how many lengths do you think big brown will win by?
    Guys like him are why the "no" has so much value...

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