[mofome]

Has anyone actually ever had a bad experience with them? maybe some miscommunication or a check that wouldn't clear right away, but they pay out quickly, they get lines out quickly, they deal with a lot of people stiffing them somehow, and they now have ATM cards. I don't know of anyone that hasn't been paid by them. Their CS is different because they're straight up with you and don't waste a lot of time BSin around, but I prefer that.

Ive played with them, been up, been down, and its all be great dealing with them.

[SBR Lou]

Other books and credit outfits don't like them, even Bill doesn't.

That goes a long way toward the kinds of image portrayed on these forums, regardless of things you stated. Being paid just matters to the players, not those with agendas or who do not like the idea of the book.

[topgame85]

I just started using them last week for fun just to see if they are actually legit they have positives and negatives but I have not reached a settle point yet so not sure will report if I ever reach it

[Mattn3236]

Odds the forum can go 24 hrs. without someone talking good or bad about cw?

Yes- +9999999999999999999999999
no- -9999999999999999999999999

[pico]

i think so far they paid everyone.

the only bad thing i heard so far is richkas complained they cancelled his 60 dollar horse tciket after the race is over because the limit is 50.

[SBR Lou]

i think so far they paid everyone.

the only bad thing i heard so far is richkas complained they cancelled his 60 dollar horse tciket after the race is over because the limit is 50.

He said that after he bragged about stiffing them at EOG, don't value anything he says as entirely factual. Same guy that had a contest dispute and literally wrote the Department of Justice about Bet Jam and EOG's owner.

[mofome]

Other books and credit outfits don't like them, even Bill doesn't.

That goes a long way toward the kinds of image portrayed on these forums, regardless of things you stated. Being paid just matters to the players, not those with agendas or who do not like the idea of the book.

As far as being completely objective, which isn't always easy, i simply don't see any negatives. I see why some could have concerns, but none of been legitimized at this point. CW gets a lot of bad press for a site that has yet to do anything wrong. I have not followed the recent CW threads here, i just get burned out from the drama of it all, but i don't see what someone could want from them that they dont offer. I don't see what someones complaint could be.

[pico]

He said that after he bragged about stiffing them at EOG, don't value anything he says as entirely factual. Same guy that had a contest dispute and literally wrote the Department of Justice about Bet Jam and EOG's owner.

this guy is lower than jj.

[jjgold]

We will stick with a safe credit book like backdog

[mofome]

We will stick with a safe credit book like backdog

Nothing much safer than getting paid from a personal ATM card.

[compaqDikk]

i highly recommenbed you schumks google ponzi scheme. of course they'll pay at first and you'll be the one holding the bag once everything falls apart

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[SBR Lou]

i highly recommenbed you schumks google ponzi scheme. of course they'll pay at first and you'll be the one holding the bag once everything falls apart

let me know if you want 7% return daily, 13,874% yearly. it is safe and #1 on HYIP forums. i can hook you up

when you w/d through the personal ATM cards, it is cash in hand. what could they possibly do to leave you "holding the bag"..

I know JJ was given some freeplays and all elsewhere, so his credibility is not what it should be, but that's kind of the point. This thread was simply asking who that's played there has a legitimate gripe or outstanding dispute....

[pico]

when you w/d through the personal ATM cards, it is cash in hand. what could they possibly do to leave you "holding the bag"..

I know JJ was given some freeplays and all elsewhere, so his credibility is not what it should be, but that's kind of the point. This thread was simply asking who that's played there has a legitimate gripe or outstanding dispute....

google ponzi scheme

[SBR Lou]

google ponzi scheme

I am well aware of Ponzi scheme, but it's not applicable here.

98% of players are not posting up, so even though positive word of mouth spreads and people are being paid, it's their own money they're issuing payouts with.

The worst conceivable thing which could happen is they run out of money, and can't honor balances. I get the feeling that they're funded enough seeing as how they have things in place for NFL year.

[pico]

seed money

they do recieve money you know...some people do lose and pay them.

[SBR Lou]

seed money

they do recieve money you know...some people do lose and pay them.

That makes no sense.

Of course people who owe send money and honor their debts. They would've never profited at all, even had they made the same plays elsewhere. The people which are getting paid are those that have made winning plays.

The only people with the potential to get shortchanged are those that win and don't get paid, and there haven't been any of those. So what exactly is your point..?

[pico]

people do keep a balance in their account from time to time.

[SBR Lou]

people do keep a balance in their account from time to time.

Is it just me or does anyone else think Picoman is drunk this afternoon..?

I will try to explain in simplest way possible OK.

98% of players are betting on credit, meaning, they are not posting up their own funds.

Example A.) The players which win, are paid out from CW money and there have been no reports of somebody not paid.

Example B.) The players which lose, never stood to profit anything at all, and they rightfully honor their debts and square losses.

You referenced Example B.), as a way to connect this to Ponzi scheme. Now explain to me how players in Example B are getting screwed...? They lost fair and square! The honorable players will pay their losses. Even had they played at a post up book, they make _0$_.

The only players which stand to lose anything at all are winning accounts if the book goes under, and they are not some poor shop, their limits are not very big either. And what these players are losing is not post up money, unless they are the 2% of players that sign up at Creditwagering.com to not play on Credit....

[pico]

20 cents line, 100 limit, plus poor selection is much worse than a lot of the regular books. so they're going to have more losers than other books. books stay in business because they make money, so cw is having a profit minus the stiff. i think with the stiff situation, they might be running at a loss right now. as more people hear about them the more people sign up, so the cash flow (but might not be positive) will increase exponentially. one day they'll pack up and leave.

if there are about 100 active players, the estimated cash flow should be around 25,000...as they grow to say like 10,000, the estimated cash flow will be 2,500,000....of course i doubt they can get 10k players. a more realistic estimate will be around a 1000 by the football season. so they'll have a estimated cash flow of 250,000. once they pack up and leave, it is still pretty good return for couple of weeks investment.

[SBR Lou]

Baseball is not their best sport I will give you that.

Basketball lines are fair to decent. It will be interesting to see what kind of packages they offer in American football.

[Richkas]

He said that after he bragged about stiffing them at EOG, don't value anything he says as entirely factual. Same guy that had a contest dispute and literally wrote the Department of Justice about Bet Jam and EOG's owner.

Bullshit thats the truth. Its not til I mentioned how would they expect me to pay if they cancelled the wager, then they credited the account. But once you phucking me its over. Everything was good with them except for a few things until that point. Once they tried to cancel the wager then I knew I wasnt paying them. And trust me, they cancel wagers on anybody after they win, I dont think anybody here would be stupid enough to pay. If the software takes the bet, they should honor it. They cant be shitty like post ups. Post ups have your money. But if you phuck with people who owe you, you wont get paid. Plus compare the lines to other shops. They are like BoDog and SI. Trying to phuck the squares on favorites. Also lets say you parlay a day game with a late night game for $50. Lets say the day game loses. They wont let you use the late game in another parlay. Even though the first game loses, they wont grade it until the late game is complete. Just another advantage for them. Also saying you can only win a $1,000 in a week is ridiculus. Just another way to stop you from betting when a player gets hot. My buddy won like $1,150.00 and they took the $150.00.

[SBR Lou]

Bullshit thats the truth. Its not til I mentioned how would they expect me to pay if they cancelled the wager, then they credited the account. But once you phucking me its over. Everything was good with them except for a few things until that point. Once they tried to cancel the wager then I knew I wasnt paying them. And trust me, they cancel wagers on anybody after they win, I dont think anybody here would be stupid enough to pay. If the software takes the bet, they should honor it. They cant be shitty like post ups. Post ups have your money. But if you phuck with people who owe you, you wont get paid. Plus compare the lines to other shops. They are like BoDog and SI. Trying to phuck the squares on favorites. Also lets say you parlay a day game with a late night game for $50. Lets say the day game loses. They wont let you use the late game in another parlay. Even though the first game loses, they wont grade it until the late game is complete. Just another advantage for them. Also saying you can only win a $1,000 in a week is ridiculus. Just another way to stop you from betting when a player gets hot. My buddy won like $1,150.00 and they took the $150.00.

So let me get this straight...

You placed an over the limit bet, originally they canceled, and then they credited you for it anyway..? And you decided any losses in future you will not honor..?

Sounds like a scumbag move bro. Their horses software has glitches sometimes, in the sportsbook the software automatically rejects over the limit bets so people cannot circumvent.

Bottom line is your friend was paid his $1k, so why wouldn't you pay your losses?

[Richkas]

So let me get this straight...

You placed an over the limit bet, originally they canceled, and then they credited you for it anyway..? And you decided any losses in future you will not honor..?

Sounds like a scumbag move bro. Their horses software has glitches sometimes, in the sportsbook the software automatically rejects over the limit bets so people cannot circumvent.

Bottom line is your friend was paid his $1k, so why wouldn't you pay your losses?

They credited it after I told them I wasnt paying. Crediting it wasnt going to change my mind. Nice try.

[pico]

They credited it after I told them I wasnt paying. Crediting it wasnt going to change my mind. Nice try.

stay with you principle, richkas

**** them

[SBR Lou]

They credited it after I told them I wasnt paying. Crediting it wasnt going to change my mind. Nice try.

Maybe you should have simply pointed out the software glitch, and they would credit you regardless..?

There have been others that had an error when using racebook, but not everybody threatens them to get the same result. They are friendly people, you simply jumped the gun and decided to justify stiffing when your friends have even been paid...

Why would you have continued to play there and lose more if not to take a shot at them..?

[Richkas]

I agree, what exactly is the problem Richie if they still honored a wager that was over the limit but mistakingly taken by their system, sounds pretty fair to me, and it is clearly stated the most you can win in a week is 1k, anyone trying to win over 1k is simply a moron, this is strictly a rec. book not for sharps making thousands of dollars. I have yet to see a no payment complaint and as time goes by they seem more and more legit to me. People arguing b/c a book trusts them to pay and gives them credit is ridiculous, it's 10x more likely to have your money stolen by a book which asks you to post up first.

Then use them if you like them. I dont have a problem people using them. But if somebody can afford at the end of the week to pay up, then with the lines they deal, a person is phucking ignorant for not just waiting til the end of the week and posting up with a place with good lines.

[Richkas]

Maybe you should have simply pointed out the software glitch, and they would credit you regardless..?

There have been others that had an error when using racebook, but not everybody threatens them to get the same result. They are friendly people, you simply jumped the gun and decided to justify stiffing when your friends have even been paid...

Why would you have continued to play there and lose more if not to take a shot at them..?

You are more than welcome to your opinion. I care none.

[Richkas]

i agree ONLY if one uses CW as their ONLY book , however if CW is used along with a few others then value can be found at CW , given for only $100.00

I dont scalp or middle. I gamble.

[Mattn3236]

I dont scalp or middle. I gamble.