[pico]

he is not so hot starting this year. is he in a slump or he already peaked and it is all going down hill for him.

not sure if i want to take the tigers looking at his starts for this season.

[element1286]

He has had a problem with walks and homeruns.

The combinations of walks and homeruns are a killer, I don't think he has pitched as bad as his numbers indicate. But I would like to see a start where he doesn't walk that many and doesn't give up any hr's before I would put any money on him.

[pico]

already gave out 3 runs...not looking good for the tigers

[rjt721]

He's trying to sabotage my fantasy team. He's been doing a great job all season.

[ChuteBoxe]

I read an article that he's actually having shoulder problems, and is keeping that from his manager and the public. I'll try to find it again for ya if I get a chance.

[pico]

I read an article that he's actually having shoulder problems, and is keeping that from his manager and the public. I'll try to find it again for ya if I get a chance.

could the club sue him for that?

[turnip]

I read somewhere in early april that his fastball has been slower this year

[ChuteBoxe]

I couldn't find the exact story I read, but this is a credible site that refers to what I was talking about...

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...ort=MLB&ID=464

Also, if you compare the video's/flash below, and him throwing today, you can notice that there's a little bit of a difference with his delivery...

http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/...Verlander.html

[SteveOJax]

how about youkalis killing the tigers...him and that ugly stance shaking his ass

[pico]

1-6 for verlander. he is catching up to zito

[SteveOJax]

haha too busy gambling that why i always see him at motor city with rogers in the poker room...acting like hes all that....maybe hes too far in debt???

[onlooker]

I read an article that he's actually having shoulder problems, and is keeping that from his manager and the public. I'll try to find it again for ya if I get a chance.

Thats strange. This day and age athlete that wants to actually play, so he keeps a injury away from everyone?

Just shut it down, and still get paid. Geez.

[The_Kid]

He's trying to sabotage my fantasy team. He's been doing a great job all season.

I started benching him after his first 2 starts. Too unreliable now.

[69882000]

That's why I capitalized on his misfortunes I went with the Red Sox. Verlander is great fade material for the moment. I do however think he will at some point get a few winning games under his belt.

[pico]

Who doesn't want to be Zito?

who doesn't want to be kevin brown

[ChuteBoxe]

who doesn't want to be kevin brown

How about Carl Pavano? The guy made millions by sitting on his ass and being a sissy.