[bigboydan]

Originally Posted by Cloak & Dagger

you might be getting contacted soon regarding a "bonus" to change ur mind

I doubt it and even if I were it still wouldn't change my mind in regards to Creditwagering sir.

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

Their is no need to do that Crazyl, because I never said you were a shill. Like I told Rob above, I have noticed many of new shills as of late about this book. So I feel it's best not to try and decipher who is who, and just not report anything at all.

would you take that position on a sponsor book? absolutely not.

i know knuckleheads will interpret that to mean that i feel CW should have an A+ rating, but be honest for a minute. if this was a book on good terms with SBR, that invited you over to visit them, that made every attempt to get on your good graces like another credit book which shall remain nameless (which is expecting a rating in a week..), then f*ck no you wouldnt exclude honest posters from seeing who has reported a payout..

fact is, they've paid. prove otherwise. show me one poster that got stiffed..

[MJFtheGenius]

does everyone get one???

It comes in the mail?

[pokernut9999]

Anyone seen pimike lately

[Cloak & Dagger]

Originally Posted by crazyl

Goes to show you what this place is all about, and really revolves around. Posters that post here every day, long before this credit book surfaces, that spend hour after hour here day in and day out can't post their experiences and feedback on a book to inform others.

If this place ripped me off or rob, or iwin, or francis, or anyone don't you think it'd have gotten out by now..? well you know, f*ck you SBR, I'm going to post when I get a payout, I'm going to post when someone calls the book a scam that they've been paying, and if you don't like it go ahead and restrict my account.

scanning the debit card now and sending to mod.

Originally Posted by pokernut9999

Anyone seen pimike lately

last I heard the feds wanted to have a talk with him....

Originally Posted by bigboydan

I doubt it and even if I were it still wouldn't change my mind in regards to Creditwagering sir.

well then you have some integrity about you..sir

[Francis Sollozzo]

it's all good CW will not fail or make it on what is posted here , I thought I was helping SBR posters though.

[pokernut9999]

Originally Posted by crazyl

would you take that position on a sponsor book? absolutely not.

i know knuckleheads will interpret that to mean that i feel CW should have an A+ rating, but be honest for a minute. if this was a book on good terms with SBR, that invited you over to visit them, that made every attempt to get on your good graces like another credit book which shall remain nameless (which is expecting a rating in a week..), then f*ck no you wouldnt exclude honest posters from seeing who has reported a payout..

fact is, they've paid. prove otherwise. show me one poster that got stiffed..

SBR would lose credibility to rate a book that will not disclose their location, give out a telephone number, or allow a visit.

Think about that for a minute if you will.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Originally Posted by Francis Sollozzo

it's all good CW will not fail or make it on what is posted here , I thought I was helping SBR posters though.

huh?

people wouldnt even know CW existed if it werent for SBR

dont kid urself

[Francis Sollozzo]

Originally Posted by Cloak & Dagger

huh?

people wouldnt even know CW existed if it werent for SBR

dont kid urself

i read about them at Rx

At this point would I send CW 5K postup $$ ? NO! But they have paid me twice , well I think twice , have to wait and see how the DCard works

[Iwinyourmoney]

I recieved my DC card today. Only had $220 on it since I had to pay up.

So let me get this straight Dan? You are not including payout from CW in your payout report why? Are you saying all of us that get paid and post about it work for them? Im just a little lost? I do not work for them, I have no reason to. They have paid me promptly and have good customer service, towards me at least. I guess I will not post when I get paid anymore if thats what SBR wants.

[Francis Sollozzo]

Originally Posted by Iwinyourmoney

I recieved my DC card today. Only had $220 on it since I had to pay up.

how did you check your balance? how did you get a PIN #?

PM me if you like , thanks

[CrazyLou]

PM sent containing front and back scanned debit card Moderator.

[Iwinyourmoney]

Originally Posted by Francis Sollozzo

how did you check your balance? how did you get a PIN #?

PM me if you like , thanks

Goto live chat. They will give you the PIN. The bank will have them activated tomorrow per live chat, then ull get an Email with instructions how to check balance online and so this. Thats what they me on live chat

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by pokernut9999

SBR would lose credibility to rate a book that will not disclose their location, give out a telephone number, or allow a visit.

Think about that for a minute if you will.

Again knucklehead, they don't care whether they're rated or not. If they did, they'd go through the motions with SBR, but until you show me evidence of them stiffing one winner then it is absolutely wrong to filter players from reading payout reports.

PM was sent containing front and back of debit card, and I know if you asked Iwin he'd probably do it too.

Shill that.

[bigboydan]

Originally Posted by Iwinyourmoney

I recieved my DC card today. Only had $220 on it since I had to pay up.

So let me get this straight Dan? You are not including payout from CW in your payout report why?

Because of all the recent shilling problems that have arose in the past few weeks. I mean have you seen just how many new members have popped up out of no where talking about how good this book is?

Maybe I'll continue to report some of the SBR regulars feedback, but it's just becoming a nightmare trying to figure out who is or isn't shilling.

[Iwinyourmoney]

Originally Posted by crazyl

Again knucklehead, they don't care whether they're rated or not. If they did, they'd go through the motions with SBR, but until you show me evidence of them stiffing one winner then it is absolutely wrong to filter players from reading payout reports.

PM was sent containing front and back of debit card, and I know if you asked Iwin he'd probably do it too.

Shill that.

I would block out some numbers and snap a pic

[Cloak & Dagger]

Originally Posted by Francis Sollozzo

i read about them at Rx

At this point would I send CW 5K postup $$ ? NO! But they have paid me twice , well I think twice , have to wait and see how the DCard works

lmfao

why do you have to lie for??

they had one thread up and it got pushed to the bottom

people come to SBR and see NOTHING but CW threads.....

[Francis Sollozzo]

Originally Posted by Iwinyourmoney

Goto live chat. They will give you the PIN. The bank will have them activated tomorrow per live chat, then ull get an Email with instructions how to check balance online and so this. Thats what they me on live chat

did the live chat & got PIN# , just have not received email yet

thanks

[JBC77]

Originally Posted by Iwinyourmoney

I recieved my DC card today. Only had $220 on it since I had to pay up.

So let me get this straight Dan? You are not including payout from CW in your payout report why? Are you saying all of us that get paid and post about it work for them? Im just a little lost? I do not work for them, I have no reason to. They have paid me promptly and have good customer service, towards me at least. I guess I will not post when I get paid anymore if thats what SBR wants.

While I'm not a fan of credit books......because guys can get buried and bet over their heads. People have a right to do what they want with their money.

What I'm wondering though, is why some of the mods and owners haven't said anything much about CW at all. Correct me if I'm wrong, thats the business you folks are in. Reviewing, reporting and informing players on offshore books. Somehow they popped up through the forums and no one of an "official" capacity knows anything about them. Who is CW? Do they have to pay to be reported on? Now no payout tracking will be kept.

WTF is going on here guys? There is really no info on CW's backround. I find that hard to believe.

[Iwinyourmoney]

email will come tuesday they told me

[Cloak & Dagger]

Originally Posted by JBC77

While I'm not a fan of credit books......because guys can get buried and bet over their heads. People have a right to do what they want with their money.

What I'm wondering though, is why some of the mods and owners haven't said anything much about CW at all. Correct me if I'm wrong, thats the business you folks are in. Reviewing, reporting and informing players on offshore books. Somehow they popped up through the forums and no one of an "official" capacity knows anything about them. Who is CW? Do they have to pay to be reported on? Now no payout tracking will be kept.

WTF is going on here guys? There is really no info on CW's background. I find that hard to believe.

ask "crazyl" and "pimike"....they seem to know more than anyone else about CW

be careful though...I was told this on live chat by "Tom"





Tom says:
you know what pimike stands for
Tom says:
seriously?
J says:
LMFAO
Tom says:
do you know
Tom says:
pimike
J says:
I dont care if dude was a bounty hunter
Tom says:
he is a private detective

[JBC77]

I'm not sure how staying quiet and doing nothing protects players. Looks like BBD had been left to try to clean up this mess.

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by JBC77

I'm not sure how staying quiet and doing nothing protects players. Looks like BBD had been left to try to clean up this mess.

I'm sure it wasn't his decision to exclude CW coverage from payout reports, that's a silly thing to do, you mean to tell me there are some new members that are suspected shills so because it requires work you aren't even going to attempt to cover the payouts..? would you take that position with a sponsor book..? hell no. shills exist, this just so happens to be a new book so any other poster you analyze differently.

say whatever you want but I am no goddamn shill SBR, the debit card was sent front and back, if i was being compensated in any way whatsoever i wouldn't have had to f*cking settle with this book twice. i'm not even UP there anymore......

[pokernut9999]

Originally Posted by crazyl

Again knucklehead, they don't care whether they're rated or not. If they did, they'd go through the motions with SBR, but until you show me evidence of them stiffing one winner then it is absolutely wrong to filter players from reading payout reports.

PM was sent containing front and back of debit card, and I know if you asked Iwin he'd probably do it too.

Shill that.

I know you are pretty dense and have a hard time understanding anything. But if a book does not want a rating, or anyone to know who they are, where they are or anything else then why THE HELL SHOULD SBR GIVE THEM ANYTHING ?

explain how that gives SBR any credibilty

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by pokernut9999

I know you are pretty dense and have a hard time understanding anything. But if a book does not want a rating, or anyone to know who they are, where they are or anything else then why THE HELL SHOULD SBR GIVE THEM ANYTHING ?

explain how that gives SBR any credibilty

They have not been open very long, they do not feel obligated or want to invite SBR into their scene while they are very very very new. Right now they have no desire to do that.

Still, the fact remains, SBR has an obligation to report news and notes whether from the mouth of book, player, or whatever. You can't start picking and choosing which reports to add onto payout reports because a book hasn't fulfilled your steps, that's very self serving and not what this portal of information should be about.

[JBC77]

Originally Posted by Cloak & Dagger

ask "crazyl" and "pimike"....they seem to know more than anyone else about CW

With all due respect sir, crazyl has been here a lot longer than CW.
Thats beyond the point though. A book has emerged and a lot of people have questions about it. There is a lot unknown. Since there are a lot of threads on the topic. Is it not SBR's responsibility to at least try to investigate and inform on whether or not they believe CW is legitimate or not? If CW goes bad a lot of people on the forums will have gotten roped in through the forums. If they are legit, let guys know. Make an attempt to quell the circus though.

[bigboydan]

Originally Posted by crazyl

Still, the fact remains, SBR has an obligation to report news and notes whether from the mouth of book, player, or whatever.

And SBR does crazyl. I mean you don't see any posters being banned for sharing there experiences with CW do you?

[operaman]

sbr shouldn't condone CR becuase the biz model is impossible. It is a simple confidence scam.

SBRs reputation is being hurt by allowing such an obvious scam to take place. The warnings SBR has given to readers concerning CR is insufficient to protect the image
of SBR and the pocketbooks of less informed players. You are an(The) industry watchdog. Its time to unleash the hounds.

p.s. Message to less informed readers: Robmpink is a shill. Don't take my word for it. Just do
a look up of all of his posts and form your own opinion. The only difference between him and the one post wonders is he posts his shillishit with more vigor and nuance.

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

And SBR does crazyl. I mean you don't see any posters being banned for sharing there experiences with CW do you?

No, but you cannot filter player reports (particularly players that have posted here before CW even surfaced) because it requires "too much energy". That's the job that has to be done for every other book, for instance do you not add payout reports for books like BetUS that have screwed with players before...?

The point is although this book is still very out there and unknown, I think you have a duty to at least pass on the information reported by players, if you are deadset on tons of new people that registered within the last month or so being shills fine, filter the reports from those people. But guys like Iwin, Rob, etc, or if someone like Chute who mentioned having an account there gets a payout, you're honestly going to filter your members like that..?

[pokernut9999]

Any reasonable person would have a hard time using a SBR opinion on a sportsbook they know nothing about. If SBR relies on posters for their info then their credibility is shot.

There is to much going back and forth by posters that makes no sense, so it would be hard to give it any validity.

[PureGuava]

so I just signed up with the book recentley, let me ask you guys who play on their, how have you gotten paid and how many times? also please give me an update on how the debit card worked.

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by PureGuava

so I just signed up with the book recentley, let me ask you guys who play on their, how have you gotten paid and how many times? also please give me an update on how the debit card worked.

If this was next month, players like this couldn't examine a payout report and have their question answered by SBR's reports, that's the point I'm making. Whether you agree w/ the biz model or not, you can't cordon off the flow of information like that, or else it defeats the purpose of why we're here.

To answer your question Pure, I've been paid twice by check, they now payout through debit cards, I've settled with them twice, the second time I had to cancel a payout I was expecting through the debit card. They did send mine anyway though so in the future I won't have to wait for any more deliveries to use it. The card doesn't have your name on it, you go on live chat and they'll activate it for you, you can w/d cash in hand from an ATM. It's a regular debit card.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Originally Posted by operaman

sbr shouldn't condone CR becuase the biz model is impossible. It is a simple confidence scam.

SBRs reputation is being hurt by allowing such an obvious scam to take place. The warnings SBR has given to readers concerning CR is insufficient to protect the image
of SBR and the pocketbooks of less informed players. You are an(The) industry watchdog. Its time to unleash the hounds.

p.s. Message to less informed readers: Robmpink is a shill. Don't take my word for it. Just do
a look up of all of his posts and form your own opinion. The only difference between him and the one post wonders is he posts his shillishit with more vigor and nuance.

very well said....

some 'people' want SBR to report payouts...but yet...its ok to remain unknown to everyone regarding a location or ANY contact phone numbers

ARE YOU SERIOUS??

shit...ill rent a server from godaddy...open a book tomorrow...and come here and tell everyone I "got paid"

then i'll expect dan to include my book in his payout report....but I wont tell him anything about my book....other than "I pay people"

SBR wants to inspect my book?....nah....but they are obligated to report things about my book because 2 posters with 10,000 posts say "its a A+ book"

L-O-L

[durito]

where is cw located?

[pokernut9999]

They may be legit and they may not, only time will tell. But people must realize that any book opening up pretty much has to pay in the beggining or they would be uncovered real quick. They may have an agenda and they may not, but any book that tells customers they have a half a million in backing is not to professional.

Never heard of any business telling people finanical details and how almost every week people have winnings canceled in mid air after losing that week.

Time after time people request a check that should be mailed on Wednesday and the following Monday after losing they get canceled.