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    Default As usual, its better to be lucky than good...

    Cinci scores zero earned runs and wins.

    what a waste of time handicapping can be.

    Last edited by mofome; 05-05-08 at 10:05 PM.

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    White Sox game was painful to watch. Their 8 and 9 slots get on 2nd and 3rd, No Outs, top of lineup goes down in order..

    Their pitcher gives up 1 run all game and they lose 1-0, to make it even worse, they started the top of the 9th with an out, 3 consecutive walks to load the bases, and a .179 hitter grounds into a double play and it's ballgame over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyl View Post
    White Sox game was painful to watch. Their 8 and 9 slots get on 2nd and 3rd, No Outs, top of lineup goes down in order..

    Their pitcher gives up 1 run all game and they lose 1-0, to make it even worse, they started the top of the 9th with an out, 3 consecutive walks to load the bases, and a .179 hitter grounds into a double play and it's ballgame over.

    the cubs did almost the same thing. bases loaded, 1 out, and fontenot tried to score from 3rd, for no reason, and hes out. the next guy walks so instead of being down 5-4 with 1 out, bases loaded and d lee up...well...

    better to be lucky.

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    Or just observant. Check your myspace inbox
    Last edited by guitarjosh; 05-05-08 at 10:08 PM.

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    it seems most think fontenot was actually safe on that play. i was at the gym following on the phone.


    wow


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    ah, i just read that cinci actually did score Zero earned runs for the win.



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    He should have never tried it anyways. Terrible baseball play

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEP Dynasty View Post
    He should have never tried it anyways. Terrible baseball play





    how many people have ever lost a game 0-3 though?


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    luck is part of baseball. you need to improve your mlb capping skills, son.

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    The 0ER stat was almost meaningless in this game. Dempster was awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picoman View Post
    luck is part of baseball. you need to improve your mlb capping skills, son.

    don't be ridiculous, hooligan.

    a team scored 0 earned against me. capping doesnt get much better than that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Pac View Post
    The 0ER stat was almost meaningless in this game. Dempster was awful.


    not factually. 4H, 7K 0 ER. 2 of those hits were infield hits. i'd say you're bright, but lying isn't my thing.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mofome View Post
    don't be ridiculous, hooligan.

    a team scored 0 earned against me. capping doesnt get much better than that.

    you can use that as an excuse if it make you feel that you're taking the right side. why did you cap that shitty game anyways.

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    thats one game sir. long term winning is the bottom line. be on the right side every day and you wil win

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    Quote Originally Posted by mofome View Post
    not factually. 4H, 7K 0 ER. 2 of those hits were infield hits. i'd say you're bright, but lying isn't my thing.


    Don't bet on the Cubs. Theyre ******s

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    Quote Originally Posted by picoman View Post
    you can use that as an excuse if it make you feel that you're taking the right side. why did you cap that shitty game anyways.


    excuse? whats the excuse? there were zero earned runs against the cubs today, thats a fact ma'am.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Pac View Post
    Don't bet on the Cubs. Theyre ******s

    now thats advice worth listening to. the cubs are junk.




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    Quote Originally Posted by pat venditto View Post
    thats one game sir. long term winning is the bottom line. be on the right side every day and you wil win


    yeah i know. it just blows. losing is awful already, losing on errors is much worse.


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    Nothing is worse than the NBA Playoffs so far. No point in capping. Just take the home favorite and you'll win. Why I refuse to do that, who the fuck knows. I guess I like pissing money away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mofome View Post
    excuse? whats the excuse? there were zero earned runs against the cubs today, thats a fact ma'am.

    a win is a win. losers whine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picoman View Post
    a win is a win. losers whine.

    well ive got a winning record in baseball and i wnt 2-0 tonight in the nba posted in the think tank. my one loss was bad luck, simple as that. lets keep in mind, i didn't ask you any questions, kido.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuteBoxe View Post
    Nothing is worse than the NBA Playoffs so far. No point in capping. Just take the home favorite and you'll win. Why I refuse to do that, who the fuck knows. I guess I like pissing money away.

    game 2 overs are 7-2-1 for me this year. 11-4 last season.


    we'll hammer some bases tomorrow and make up whatever damage the NBA has done to my bud Chute.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mofome View Post
    well ive got a winning record in baseball and i wnt 2-0 tonight in the nba posted in the think tank. my one loss was bad luck, simple as that. lets keep in mind, i didn't ask you any questions, kido.

    stick to b-ball kido

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    Quote Originally Posted by picoman View Post
    stick to b-ball kido


    why? 4-1 on the front page in bases. is 80% good or bad? i can't figure it out, maybe we could discuss in the think tank?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mofome View Post
    why? 4-1 on the front page in bases. is 80% good or bad? i can't figure it out, maybe we could discuss in the think tank?

    2-0 = 100% win

    0-1 = 0 % win

    your bb capping skills is infinity% better than your mlb capping skills kido.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picoman View Post
    2-0 = 100% win

    0-1 = 0 % win

    your bb capping skills is infinity% better than your mlb capping skills kido.


    each are excellent on the season, it's hard to choose just one. im guessing you've never run into such problems. I envy your lack of talent, cupcake.


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    For me tonight, yes, it was definately better to be lucky than good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mofome View Post
    game 2 overs are 7-2-1 for me this year. 11-4 last season.


    we'll hammer some bases tomorrow and make up whatever damage the NBA has done to my bud Chute.



    I forgot about your game 2 system. Good deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panic View Post
    For me tonight, yes, it was definately better to be lucky than good.

    what did you have big guy? cinci? all is not lost if Panic wins.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mofome View Post
    what did you have big guy? cinci? all is not lost if Panic wins.

    No. Played the Spurs/Hornet game. Had the Over 182 and got extremely lucky. Just saw your thread and it couldn't have been more accurate for describing my night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panic View Post
    No. Played the Spurs/Hornet game. Had the Over 182 and got extremely lucky. Just saw your thread and it couldn't have been more accurate for describing my night.


    I had the over as well. sa kept missing wide open 3s, but they got some in junk time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mofome View Post
    I had the over as well. sa kept missing wide open 3s, but they got some in junk time.

    We'll take it.

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    Earned runs count as much as other runs, and the concept of "earned runs" is often pretty bogus anyway. With 2 outs, say an error puts the runner on first base and then 6 runs are scored. Had that error not occurred, who's to say that a lot of those runs wouldn't have scored anyway? Pitching from the stretch is more difficult than pitching from a regular windup, but it's not 6 runs tougher. Committing that error costs the team about 0.25 prevented runs in expectation, yet the pitcher is let off the hook for 6 runs.

    In this instance, the first error cost them about a run in expectation and the second error cost them 0.25 runs. Would you rather have lost your bet 3.75 to 3?

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    Those expectation figures include league average hitters, so with Dunn coming up that second error cost a bit more than .25 runs, but it was still not worth enough that you should have expected the Cubs to win without the errors occurring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beetman View Post
    Earned runs count as much as other runs, and the concept of "earned runs" is often pretty bogus anyway. With 2 outs, say an error puts the runner on first base and then 6 runs are scored. Had that error not occurred, who's to say that a lot of those runs wouldn't have scored anyway? Pitching from the stretch is more difficult than pitching from a regular windup, but it's not 6 runs tougher. Committing that error costs the team about 0.25 prevented runs in expectation, yet the pitcher is let off the hook for 6 runs.

    In this instance, the first error cost them about a run in expectation and the second error cost them 0.25 runs. Would you rather have lost your bet 3.75 to 3?

    Well, dear, the thing is the errors actually cost them 5 runs. The 2nd error was followed by a HR, but they should have been out of the inning. its different to pitch out of a wind up, its different to know there are runners on, and its different mentally to have to get 4 outs in an inning. simply put, cinci scored 0 earned runs and anyone who won on them was the prodcut of good luck and i congratulate them.


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