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Old 05-04-2008, 10:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Is it possible to get out of gambling?

Can you really quit once you start? I think its like "you can take the person out of the ghetto, but you cant take the ghetto out of the person" type thing...Im thinking im gonna be barrelled in for life!
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Very few have.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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first step, stop coming to sbr.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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the best way to quit gambling is to bet the right way to give you an advantage so its not gambling. 1% on each bet and no chasing. and no betting 20k on the patriots -7 in the 1st half.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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AAO , have to pick up something else like drinking
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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the best way to quit gambling is to bet the right way to give you an advantage so its not gambling. 1% on each bet and no chasing. and no betting 20k on the patriots -7 in the 1st half.
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the best way to quit gambling is to bet the right way to give you an advantage so its not gambling. 1% on each bet and no chasing. and no betting 20k on the patriots -7 in the 1st half.
You have a lot to learn kid, quit dreaming.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The only available advantage betting where the player actually has a small advantage on each bet he makes is at matchbook now with their 1% juice on baseball. You can see if you have an advantage on your bet by putting the numbers into the half point calculator. If its a bet at matchbook dont forget to factor in the juice which is 2% for everything other than baseball.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Can you really quit once you start? I think its like "you can take the person out of the ghetto, but you cant take the ghetto out of the person" type thing...Im thinking im gonna be barrelled in for life!
Very difficult to quit, there is something unique about gambler's that they are not usually ever able to stop, more about the action than the money. Stu Ungar they say went from broke to millionaire to broke many times in his life, he won a dozen tournaments with 5k+ entry fees as well as being one of the best card counters at blackjack in history, he is estimated to have won 30 million dollars at the poker table and died without any assets to his name. The best strategy is to go about gambling in such a way as to wait for the best wagers possible, ignoring games where you have little/no edge, if you do this over the long haul excercising money management skills, it's entirely possible to win long-term. If you play every game, chase, etc. it is entirely unavoidable that you'll be barrelled in. Excercise the one advantage you have over the bookie, choice, which games to play and which side to take.

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Old 05-04-2008, 10:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It's real tough because the "fever" is always there. Even if you quit for a few months, something generally comes along to draw you back in. Your only real chance is if you have something you enjoy more than gambling eventually coming along to fill the void left behind. And that's pretty hard to consistently have.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Very difficult to quit, there is something unique about gambler's that they are not usually ever able to stop, more about the action than the money. Stu Ungar they say went from broke to millionaire to broke many times in his life, he won a dozen tournaments with 5k+ entry fees as well as being one of the best card counters at blackjack in history, he is estimated to have won 30 million dollars at the poker table and died without any assets to his name. The best strategy is to go about gambling in such a way as to wait for the best wagers possible, ignoring games where you have little/no edge, if you do this over the long haul excercising money management skills, it's entirely possible to win long-term. If you play every game, chase, etc. it is entirely unavoidable that you'll be barrelled in. Excercise the one advantage you have over the bookie, choice, which games to play and which sides to take.

Yea , Unger made millions at cards and blew it all on sports, horses and drugs.

His best friend told him to stick to what he was best at but he never did.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yea , Unger made millions at cards and blew it all on sports, horses and drugs.

His best friend told him to stick to what he was best at but he never did.
True, but I don't imagine Ungar as being a practitioner of money management, more like blow your winnings on coke, hookers, and partying when you're up (and apparently often just giving 10s of thousands away to his friends when he was winning...must've been nice for his friends) when you're on a winning streak and chase like a demon when you're losing and blow what's left on coke. In fact he was so strung out on drugs that he refused his backer's offer to stake him in the 98' WSOP ME even though he was flat broke, also he only smoked crack in the last couple years of his life b/c he had snorted so much coke it had destroyed his nose to the point he could no longer snort it (now that's what I call a gambling/drug addict).
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No he had no money mangement skills at all , just no one could beat him at poker or gin. Doubt he ever won at horses or sports from what I heard.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Can you really quit once you start? I think its like "you can take the person out of the ghetto, but you cant take the ghetto out of the person" type thing...Im thinking im gonna be barrelled in for life!
Why in the world would you want to quit gambling? It's fun being a degenerate.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Why in the world would you want to quit gambling? It's fun being a degenerate.
For me, its the grind...cant take it anymore...and by grind I mean capping games for 2-5 hours then watching them and if they dont lose you have to sweat them out. Nothing like capping games for 3 hours just to go 0-3 or 1-2. Also the poker is starting to get to me. Nothing like sitting at a table for a 5 hour session just to break even or come away with $20.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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For me, its the grind...cant take it anymore...and by grind I mean capping games for 2-5 hours
Tell me you're not serious.
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