Is this wrong? I made a bet with one of my books, local one, not a website, and he cancelled my bet about 3 hours before the tip off, is this allowed? Proper, how should i go about the situation?
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04-26-08 05:20 PM #1
Bookie Cancels your Bet
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04-26-08 05:21 PM #2
Need more details. What was the bet?
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04-26-08 05:25 PM #3
At least he cancelled it before the tip off and not during the game or after the game
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04-26-08 05:26 PM #4
He accepted my bet last night, and now cancelled today, thats all there was to it, he canceled the bet, which he had agreed to book before.
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04-26-08 05:28 PM #5
What was his reasoning for it...was it on the Celts? He probably had heavy action and got scared...he should honor it either way. My local has never canceled a bet on me and has even taken out a loan to pay me after he got heavy action on a game that lost.
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04-26-08 05:35 PM #6
Yes it was on celtics, he doesn't get a lot of action, trust me. He just thought i was going to win for sure i guess, and canceled the bet, what should i do? If i owe him money, should i still pay? I think he did bad business, but what ever..
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04-26-08 05:35 PM #7
Knew it was a Celtics bet.
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04-26-08 05:36 PM #8
obv
Originally Posted by ChuteBoxe
I'm really mad, but whatever, i think this is pretty bad business.
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04-26-08 05:40 PM #9
If it cashes and you owe money I would tell him it was an unfair practice for him to cancel the bet and subtract whatever you would have won from it and part ways with him. Then again if it loses then he did you a favor and will feel like a jackass and likely never do that again.
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04-26-08 05:42 PM #10
Yeah, i know, he probably won't do this, he's a friend, but i'll happily lose one for what is right, once you accept a bet, i don't believe you can cancel, its just proper ethics. Originally Posted by diogee
If it cashes and you owe money I would tell him it was an unfair practice for him to cancel the bet and subtract whatever you would have won from it and part ways with him. Then again if it loses then he did you a favor and will feel like a jackass and likely never do that again.
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04-26-08 05:43 PM #11
I'm honestly suprised he didn't wait on the outcome of the Lakers/Nuggets game to cancel it.
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04-26-08 05:46 PM #12
He only takes a few peoples action. I don't think it matters like that. Originally Posted by ChuteBoxe
But i don't think he should be able to cancel, but he did, so he's obviously not going to pay if celtics happen to win. It's not fair that i'm betting with him, and he can choose when he feels i have an edge to randomly cancel one of my bets? PHUCK THAT.
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04-26-08 05:49 PM #13
It is absolute horse Shit...it would be like a book canceling your wager because the line moved 2 points in your favor. A bookie cannot just pick and choose what bets to cancel if he took it in the first place.
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04-26-08 06:00 PM #14
yeah, what can ya do =[
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04-26-08 06:02 PM #15
Absolute bullshit, I've never heard of this before in my life. I mean if he somehow misquoted a line (told ya Boston +8 instead of -8 I could understand) but a bookie calling you back to cancel the bet??? Are you kidding me? That would be the last time he'd ever book a book a bet for me, hell that's what makes sports betting possible to win that you can "lock in" decent numbers/odds.
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04-26-08 06:43 PM #16
Call the better business bureau , what the heck are you guys bitching about ? He has every right to cancel a bet 3 hours before hand.
What is the big deal over a bet being canceled anyway, he did it 3 hours before game time. He is the book and can do what ever he wants to, how is he screwing anyone ?1561ptsTOP SPORTSBOOK
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04-26-08 06:47 PM #17
Pokernut you are an idiot, the purpose of betting far in advance is to "lock in" a better line/odds than you would get at gametime, a bookie is clearly not going to cancel a bet that has moved against the bettor he is only going to cancel a wagers whose line or odds have improved, are you actually saying it is not wrong to cancel a line if it moves in the bettor's favor when the bettor doesn't have the option of canceling a wager that moves against him?? Are you really that fukin dumb?? Originally Posted by pokernut9999
Last edited by bettilimbroke999; 04-26-08 at 07:45 PM.
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04-26-08 06:50 PM #18
I agree with ya bettil...locking in early odds is the best advantage that you can have against the book and it it bullshit to cancel the bet after the line moves.
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04-26-08 06:55 PM #19
Since neither one of you know why he canceled it is stupid for you to try and guess why. Since it is illegal , then it is STUPID to bring up the word ETHICS in the same sentence.
And where does it say he got a better line ?1561ptsTOP SPORTSBOOK
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04-26-08 07:52 PM #20
Originally Posted by pokernut9999
Honestly, I've never heard of a bookie calling a player back and cancelling the wager but I assumed it was b/c the line had improved (gone from 7.5 or 8 that he bet at to 8.5-9) and the bookie had no way of laying off the action since no one was taking the Hawks, rather than risk his own cash on a bet he thinks is going to lose he calls and tells the player he's canceling it. Original poster did he tell you why he was cancelling it or is the general assumption anyone who reads this post is making correct (other than pokernut who is apparently drunk) that you got a good line and he can't balance the action or the line has moved in your favor since you bet? I will not post any more in this thread as this is such a rare ridiculous circumstance that I don't feel there is anything productive to gain from it, b/c the odds of a bookie calling back a bettor to cancel a wager he made is so remote that it's too ridiculous to even consider. LET THIS BE THE LAST BET YOU MAKE WITH THIS JOKE BOOKIE (Does your bookie work at the local pool hall for min. wage or something? Did you make some unusually large wager what's the story here? Either way get a new bookie.)
Last edited by bettilimbroke999; 04-26-08 at 07:59 PM.
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04-26-08 07:58 PM #21
He stated that the bet was placed last night...the line was -8 last night and -8.5 for the better majority of today so that is why I said that his line was favorable by just knowing the line moves of the game.
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04-26-08 08:00 PM #22
For what it's worth it looks like your bookie may have accidently saved you money Celtics are playing like dogshit.
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04-26-08 08:09 PM #23
First of all he never stated why it was canceled, if so please show me where.
Bookies use all kind of lines, so saying it opened at a number and moved to this is irrelevent.
Most locals usually open lines on heavy favorites high to begin with.1561ptsTOP SPORTSBOOK
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04-26-08 08:12 PM #24
And by the way , this is the 2nd poster making this claim this month, maybe you are the drunk one here.
Not to mention the poster that got paid on a payment plan and another getting cut off and paid by a check.1561ptsTOP SPORTSBOOK
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04-26-08 08:16 PM #25
The reason is obvious why it was canceled....81% of the bets placed overall were on the Celts and he did not want the heavy action as he probably felt that was the right side. Are you saying that it would be right if your book canceled a bet of yours that wasn't a bad line? If so I would be willing to be your bookie.
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04-26-08 08:17 PM #26
I am quite certain your listed location of a trailer in the sticks is accurate, I would love to be your bookie. Uhh, yea ya know that bet you made well line went from +9 to +7 so I'm gonna have to cancel that one, there any other bets you'd like to make I'll let ya know right before gametime if they are gonna count or not. Luckily your last bet went from -10 to -8 so I let that one stand and they won by 9 so you owe a couple hundred just drop that by anytime, thanks for your business, pal. Originally Posted by pokernut9999
Last edited by bettilimbroke999; 04-26-08 at 08:20 PM.
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04-26-08 08:21 PM #27
Yes and we know why you are broke.
As far as 81% I would like to know how anyone can get a number across the world on who bets what.
Glad you guys can read other people minds and know what every local bookie gave the game out. Guess you guys win all the time since you are mindreaders.1561ptsTOP SPORTSBOOK
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04-26-08 08:23 PM #28
Seems like the whole world had Cavs, Magic, Jazz the other night . Did he cancel those bets ? Originally Posted by diogee
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04-26-08 08:26 PM #29
No idea PN...just saying that I don't feel he has the right to cancel a bet unless it was an obvious bad line. I honestly would not play any bets with my local if he would pull something like this.
The heavy action was an assumption due to the high % on the Celts at the online books and most bookies are even more public which goes without saying.
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04-26-08 08:28 PM #30
Pokernut while your bookie was scalping your bets and laughing at ya while he cashes your welfare checks I was winning over 4k in the last 3 months sports betting. Originally Posted by pokernut9999
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04-26-08 08:32 PM #31
So I guess when you posted a couple of weeks ago during March Madness about going belly up and you were done till football was just a lie ?
As was a few posts back about not posting anymore.
You have no credibility and never any facts to back anything up.1561ptsTOP SPORTSBOOK
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04-26-08 08:39 PM #32
Like I said before , no one knows why he canceled so why assume things. If he is booking he has a right do do what he feels best. He may not be able to afford a loss if he was top heavy amd he would be a fool to take action if it cost him more than he could afford. But we do not know. Not like he did it after game but 3 hours before hand.
And no I would not give him further action.1561ptsTOP SPORTSBOOK
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04-26-08 08:45 PM #33
We all have bad days which piss us off and we might exaggerate by saying barrelledin, when what the reality was I dumped like 2k in a week so it felt like barrelledin and pissed me off where I didn't want to post for awhile and since I dont bet baseball if the NBA playoffs hadn't shown up I would've taken a break between now and football season. Originally Posted by pokernut9999
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04-26-08 09:57 PM #34
He did you a favor.
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04-26-08 10:25 PM #35
Congrats man, wish mine was canceled after watching this.
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