04-19-08, 05:46 PM
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Why do so many posters want CW to fail?
I don't understand..
Have they screwed anyone that we know of? No.
Have they paid everyone? Yes.
Is their live chat helpful and quick to resolve any problem? Yes.
Why do so many want to see them fail? I don't want this thread to become a flamewar I'm just curious, until they stop paying winners shouldn't we just see if they continue to operate? Either people are just stiffs or don't want to see anything new succeed....
If they do close and screw people, you can all say you were right, until then this is getting silly with all the bashing...
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04-19-08, 05:49 PM
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Maybe the establishment books are concerned about a new concept in wagering?
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04-19-08, 06:17 PM
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crazyl, I think it's just the norm these days for so many people to root against something instead of rooting for anything. I know a lot of people who root for the Yankees to lose more than they root for their own team to win. Just a basic decline in general humanity, being contentious about everything in life and hoping someone or something fails has its grip on the masses. And it's not really about creditwagering, go back and open threads all over this forum and you'll be inundated with the negativity.
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04-19-08, 06:19 PM
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Smart Gambling is profitable
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Originally Posted by Willie Bee
crazyl, I think it's just the norm these days for so many people to root against something instead of rooting for anything. I know a lot of people who root for the Yankees to lose more than they root for their own team to win. Just a basic decline in general humanity, being contentious about everything in life and hoping someone or something fails has its grip on the masses. And it's not really about creditwagering, go back and open threads all over this forum and you'll be inundated with the negativity.
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Thanks for your insight, there is some truth to what u say.
However deeper investigations proof those who talk negative regarding cw actually owe.
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04-19-08, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Willie Bee
crazyl, I think it's just the norm these days for so many people to root against something instead of rooting for anything. I know a lot of people who root for the Yankees to lose more than they root for their own team to win. Just a basic decline in general humanity, being contentious about everything in life and hoping someone or something fails has its grip on the masses. And it's not really about creditwagering, go back and open threads all over this forum and you'll be inundated with the negativity.
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Its sad, but WBs post pretty much sums up life as we know it today.
later
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04-19-08, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Willie Bee
crazyl, I think it's just the norm these days for so many people to root against something instead of rooting for anything. I know a lot of people who root for the Yankees to lose more than they root for their own team to win. Just a basic decline in general humanity, being contentious about everything in life and hoping someone or something fails has its grip on the masses. And it's not really about creditwagering, go back and open threads all over this forum and you'll be inundated with the negativity.
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Good post. I'm a Yankee fan so nice to see it isn't bias, people are that way with them. As far as the negativity, I've always been a glass 1/2 full guy myself, in case you hadn't noticed, but if someone or something is honest with me I'm going to return the favor. That's why I made a thread saying I settled with them, I knew it'd draw some cheap shots ridiculing me, but I wanted to encourage more people to do the same. The honor system is broken too much these days. I can understand that's why plenty people think the book will fail, but that shouldn't provide rationale for stiffing.
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04-19-08, 06:30 PM
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Just a scenario..do you consider a person stiff if he does not pay within the 30 days, but eventually pay?Not because he feel threatened, only because he ALWAYS pays..not on time..hopefully they have some of those clients.
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04-19-08, 06:31 PM
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And let me remind you: Im still not a client  |
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04-19-08, 06:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond
Just a scenario..do you consider a person stiff if he does not pay within the 30 days, but eventually pay?Not because he feel threatened, only because he ALWAYS pays..not on time..hopefully they have some of those clients.
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No I don't consider someone who gets on a payment plan a stiff. I'd think that person should exercise more judgment in not betting more than they cover, but at the end of the day paying your debt (in portions) is honorable whereas stiffing is not.
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04-19-08, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by diamond
And let me remind you: Im still not a client |
I don't want them to fail but it is a very risky undertaking for them. Most probably will not pay if they lose and the guys that don't pay could care less because their credit already sucks. If they have enough bankroll behind them to weed out the stiffs they might make it. |
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04-19-08, 06:34 PM
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Smart Gambling is profitable
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Originally Posted by crazyl
No I don't consider someone who gets on a payment plan a stiff. I'd think that person should exercise more judgment in not betting more than they cover, but at the end of the day paying your debt (in portions) is honorable whereas stiffing is not.
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well said exactly.
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04-19-08, 06:34 PM
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Ok fair judgement
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04-19-08, 06:36 PM
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But I tell you what will be CW real problem now..Introduction of clients from certain countries that has been blocked by online casinos/other sportsbooks...Just take a quick glance around, and lots of other sites operate with restricted list on bonuses..only because some countries are know for abusing..expekting to see new rules pretty soon----
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04-19-08, 06:40 PM
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Not me! I'm up another $1,250. I'm waiting for a $1,500 payout from last cycle.
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04-19-08, 06:49 PM
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Smart Gambling is profitable
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Not me! I'm up another $1,250. I'm waiting for a $1,500 payout from last cycle.
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you'll get it. I might be paying u if i keep losing LOL
Its all good though 
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Pimike's Win Percentage
MLB 66.50% | 133-67-7 FINAL
NFL 82.35% | 28-6-1
NHL 85.25% | 15-3
NCCAF 78.57% | 14-3
NCCAB 50% 3-3
NBA 8-2 + 6.70 I Hate NBA
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04-20-08, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Willie Bee
crazyl, I think it's just the norm these days for so many people to root against something instead of rooting for anything. I know a lot of people who root for the Yankees to lose more than they root for their own team to win. Just a basic decline in general humanity, being contentious about everything in life and hoping someone or something fails has its grip on the masses. And it's not really about creditwagering, go back and open threads all over this forum and you'll be inundated with the negativity.
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Yeah people in general suck nowadays. I feel ya Willie  |
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04-20-08, 07:35 AM
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A** holes always want people to fail!!!!!!!!!!
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04-20-08, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by eyeball
Maybe the establishment books are concerned about a new concept in wagering?
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I don't think they are concerned. If you are a good customer at an establishment book you can get credit. You can also work with a local agent. You won't find that on their website and their customer service reps won't tell you about it, but if you are a big enough player you can do that.
The only people who should be given credit for wagering are people who do not need the credit. That's pretty much how the casinos in LV do it. If you don't need the credit you can get credit, if you do need the credit, you cannot get credit.
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04-20-08, 08:26 AM
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im at 530 available with 300 pending (on hockey futures, flames, bruins, stars to win their first round series) since last sunday. have received 29 calls (yes i mark them down cause they are the only one who calls me and # comes up as 000-000-0000 and when i answer its them), and 4 emails from CW. if even one of my nhl futures hits im well over 600 so i try explaining that but they tell me to read the rules and that i need to make a payment to settle.
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04-20-08, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by crazyl
Why do so many want to see them fail?
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Speaking for myself, I only want them to fail because I'm still not convinced that their objectives are what their players think they are. If it turns out that they are in fact 100% legit, then I don't really care whether they fail or not. |
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04-20-08, 09:21 AM
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they can be "legit" as they want as far as paying, but it seems they are gonna spend more time chasing money from "stiffs" than actually dealing with their customers. for instance 3 weeks ago i requested a call from CW, he told me the horse racing software would be fixed within a couple days. its still absolutely horrid. told me if i needed something graded get on live chat and they would do it quickly. each time i did it would take at least an hour.
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