[topcat]

i dont have a dog in this race.i hope this company will last,and be honest many years to come.it would be nice if they would have been around a couple of years,not meaning its important,look at companys like bet on sports,and cascade.my biggest qestion is,what will prevent shot takers from paying when they lose?.my belief is alot want pay ,and the only thing the honest players can hope for, is that iam wrong.i hope for the ones that are honest,that the owners will have deep pockets,and there will be more betters that pay than dont pay.one of my questions is why dont they have a phone number?my last question is when they send out their DC ,do think they will have a card like bet jamcia,where you can withdraw,and deposit on.my last question is do they take ** to pay them,when i lose 400.sorry if i sound stupid,this place is kinda new to me.

[topcat]

ive heard a few guys from other sites brag about how the are going to stiff them,and saying,what can they do?

[jjgold]

place is too new, never been in business before

[chano]

anyone uses these guys is CRAZY!!! And I mean CRAZY!!!!
Nothing good is going to come out of this. STOP and Think about it for a moments and you will agree.

[DAWGPEN]

anyone uses these guys is CRAZY!!! And I mean CRAZY!!!!
Nothing good is going to come out of this. STOP and Think about it for a moments and you will agree.

It appears that their site is down right now, Uh Oh

[indy62]

its down allright@10.04am

[mofome]

seems fine to me.

[SBR Lou]

seems fine to me.

They've paid winners so far.

Unfortunately there are a lot of stiffs as the original poster mentioned that come in polluting these threads. Many of these threads are 60% garbage just because of those individuals, half of them play there and the other half believe it's a scam because they owe money.

Though I receive warnings from moderators to keep the personal stuff out of these threads well, I'd say it's a litttttle damn hard when you have guys coming in here 24-7 saying "SCAM SCAM SCAM, ARE YOU IDIOTS CRAZY, SCAM, I MEAN I PLAY THERE AND ALL BUT IM NOT PAYING THEM IF IM DOWN 400, SCAM SCAM"....

God forbid they were sponsors and you had people doing that 24-7, I SO HOPE CW lasts for the next 10 years without ever paying SBR a dime. That would be sweet as hell.

[Bill Dozer]

They've paid winners so far.

Unfortunately there are a lot of stiffs as the original poster mentioned that come in polluting these threads. Many of these threads are 60% garbage just because of those individuals, half of them play there and the other half believe it's a scam because they owe money.

Though I receive warnings from moderators to keep the personal stuff out of these threads well, I'd say it's a litttttle damn hard when you have guys coming in here 24-7 saying "SCAM SCAM SCAM, ARE YOU IDIOTS CRAZY, SCAM, I MEAN I PLAY THERE AND ALL BUT IM NOT PAYING THEM IF IM DOWN 400, SCAM SCAM"....

God forbid they were sponsors and you had people doing that 24-7, I SO HOPE CW lasts for the next 10 years without ever paying SBR a dime. That would be sweet as hell.

I agreee but the stiffs are going to be there no matter what. SBR used to get many emails every week that basicly said, "I bounced an ***************. What can the book to do me." Some people didn't plan to stiff. Al lot of impulse action.

[SBR Lou]

I agreee but the stiffs are going to be there no matter what. SBR used to get many emails every week that basicly said, "I bounced an ***************. What can the book to do me." Some people didn't plan to stiff. Al lot of impulse action.

I understand Bill, I appreciate the response but what bothers me is this book has paid me and every other poster which has requested a payout, and people are just here to bash. For instance you have a poster that admitted to not going to pay his balance saying things like this after the fact,

""CW told me he wouldn't send my withdrawal if I asked about it 1 more time, and also threatened to kick me off their site for using live chat too much."

Of course he claims he won't prove this.

Combine that with the blackdog advertisters that chime in and the rest of the stiffs it's easy to derail these threads. They should only be about if they're still paying, etc, their business model whatever, not a sounding board for those that don't play there or have stiffed them.

[pokernut9999]

What does blackdog have to do with this ? You come into every blackdog thread yourself.

Have not heard anyone saying they will stiff them and all winners have been paid.

[SBR Lou]

What does blackdog have to do with this ? You come into every blackdog thread yourself.

Have not heard anyone saying they will stiff them and all winners have been paid.

If I post in those threads, it's not to say "DON'T PLAY THERE".

And you know it. You play in your place and that's fine. Our problem was you wanting me to play there to get yourself a referral bonus, and when I didn't take you up on it you got an attitude.

I never said Blackdog wasn't paying. In fact I just said yesterday both BD and CW are paying winners currently.

[BIGBLACKDOG]

I understand Bill, I appreciate the response but what bothers me is this book has paid me and every other poster which has requested a payout, and people are just here to bash. For instance you have a poster that admitted to not going to pay his balance saying things like this after the fact,

""CW told me he wouldn't send my withdrawal if I asked about it 1 more time, and also threatened to kick me off their site for using live chat too much."

Of course he claims he won't prove this.

Combine that with the blackdog advertisters that chime in and the rest of the stiffs it's easy to derail these threads. They should only be about if they're still paying, etc, their business model whatever, not a sounding board for those that don't play there or have stiffed them.

dont bring blackdog up, you tout a service that copied our model, look at picomans post on 11-05, concept revolutionary, joke, cw was started by a couple guys we fired for stealing, they dont want to give an address because they dont want to be found

[pokernut9999]

If I post in those threads, it's not to say "DON'T PLAY THERE".

And you know it. You play in your place and that's fine. Our problem was you wanting me to play there to get yourself a referral bonus, and when I didn't take you up on it you got an attitude.

I never said Blackdog wasn't paying. In fact I just said yesterday both BD and CW are paying winners currently.

For the last time , I did not and do not get referral bonuses. If I did I sure would have asked a hell of a lot more peoiple than 4. Try and find anyone other than the other 3, of course you can not.

Why do you give a crap what others say about CW ? You are the one that seems to have an agenda with them. Even asked earlier why SBR would not rate them, so give me a break.

[SBR Lou]

dont bring blackdog up, you tout a service that copied our model, look at picomans post on 11-05, concept revolutionary, joke, cw was started by a couple guys we fired for stealing, they dont want to give an address because they dont want to be found

With all due respect, I'll bring up whatever I want because everything I said in my post was true. There's no "touting" about it, I've posted my experiences and YES it's true people have come in CW threads promoting Blackdog. That was just an example of the way the threads are hijacked.

[BIGBLACKDOG]

well what do you have to say about our mailer picon posted 0n 11-5, read it is cw concept revoltionary

[SBR Lou]

well what do you have to say about our mailer picon posted 0n 11-5, read it is cw concept revoltionary

I am just a player, I know nothing about either company internally, who works where, whose done what.

You're making yourself look bad by even posting in this thread trying to discredit them. You're an "owner?"... Take your allegations up with Bill, not me. Nothing I said was fabricated.

[pokernut9999]

With all due respect, I'll bring up whatever I want because everything I said in my post was true. There's no "touting" about it, I've posted my experiences and YES it's true people have come in CW threads promoting Blackdog. That was just an example of the way the threads are hijacked.

So it is all right for you to bring up what ever you want, but no one else can ?



Kind of tarnishes your credibility there Crazyl

[BIGBLACKDOG]

I am just a player, I know nothing about either company internally, who works where, whose done what.

You're making yourself look bad by even posting in this thread trying to discredit them. You're an "owner?"... Take your allegations up with Bill, not me. Nothing I said was fabricated.

your the one that brought blackdog up in this thread, thats why im here,

[BIGBLACKDOG]

answer the question, is their concept revoltionary. read the post, they copied our model,

[pokernut9999]

Answer this Crazy , why does CW have no phone number, no address , and refused a visit by SBR.

[SBR Lou]

your the one that brought blackdog up in this thread, thats why im here,

I mentioned that people who would come in these threads promoting BD were part of whats hijacking these threads. I didn't say you put them up to it, just that it's happened. And it has.

If you'd like to deny that, then that's pretty silly because I could easily dig up the posts. Again it has nothing to do with you or anyone who works there, I was referring to posters. So your accusations of whatever are probably better off to be aired privately with Bill, not on a public forum. At least that's not what I'd do if I ran a company.

[SBR Lou]

answer the question, is their concept revoltionary. read the post, they copied our model,

Again, I know nothing about whatever you're saying.

You really should bow out of this thread because you're making yourself look juvenile.

The bottom line is both of you guys are paying, stop trying to make this a competition..

[pokernut9999]

Answer my queston.

[SBR Lou]

Answer my queston.

Listen, I don't work there. Ask them your questions yourself. Stop hijacking this thread. It's not about you thinking they are a scam.

This should just be about their service and if they are paying, the bottom line is right now they are. Enjoy your book, nobody goes into those threads constantly calling BD a scam, we even have the owner of BD in here making serious accusations against them. That's a little petty for an owner to do.

Go about your day, I'm trying to enjoy mine.

[BIGBLACKDOG]

lets come to an agreement, keep the blackdog name out of your posts and ill stay out of your threads

[SBR Lou]

lets come to an agreement, keep the blackdog name out of your posts and ill stay out of your threads

If no posters who play at BD come in the threads to promote the site, I agree that I have no reason to mention them. And again I have never went into your companies threads and done what Poker is doing right now.

So let's just drop it. Both places are paying I don't get what this rooster measuring contest is for.

[pokernut9999]

As usual you ignore the facts , no one going into BD threads to say they are a scam should tell you something.

They went thru entire football season with no complaints.
CW has been up a little over a month so time will tell. Of course they have to pay out in the beggining or they would be done 1st week. Not saying they are a scam but even pyramid scams pay out for a while as do all scams.

As much as you claim to talk via chat with them you should ask them why they have no number, address , and refused visit from SBR.

[pokernut9999]

If no posters who play at BD come in the threads to promote the site, I agree that I have no reason to mention them. And again I have never went into your companies threads and done what Poker is doing right now.

So let's just drop it. Both places are paying I don't get what this rooster measuring contest is for.

That is an outright lie and you accuse me of getting referral bonuses too .

[SBR Lou]

That is an outright lie and you accuse me of getting referral bonuses too .

You PMed me referring me dude. Do you not remember this?

And again. This conversation is silly. Play at your place, have fun. Let's just drop it.

The bottom line is once again, right now both places are paying. Let's just stick to reporting our experiences and not smearing.

[pokernut9999]

So if someone PM's someone they have a incentive to get a return ? So since you have 100's of post on CW we can assume you are on their payroll ?

[SBR Lou]

So if someone PM's someone they have a incentive to get a return ? So since you have 100's of post on CW we can assume you are on their payroll ?

You said you had 4 trial accounts to give away, or something like that. I deleted the message. Again I honestly don't care. It's in the past and I'm tired of this drama with you.

[pokernut9999]

I said they wanted 5 people to try them out. They asked me because I had questioned their site and he asked if I would reccomend 4 other posters. That is all I did was ask 4 other posters. Would have been silly to post on the forum and get 100's of responses. Seems silly if I was getting paid to have stopped at 2 people. Again you show your stupidity. You will not answer factual questions about CW because it is not your company but come on a public forum accusing me of getting kickbacks !!! Seems like that is a public insult and should result in infractions but I could care less. You tell people to air stuff out in private but come on here and lie about me.


You are a piece of work. So how much is CW paying you ?

[SBR Lou]

I said they wanted 5 people to try them out. They asked me because I had questioned their site and he asked if I would reccomend 4 other posters. That is all I did was ask 4 other posters. Would have been silly to post on the forum and get 100's of responses. Seems silly if I was getting paid to have stopped at 2 people. Again you show your stupidity. You will not answer factual questions about CW because it is not your company but come on a public forum accusing me of getting kickbacks !!! Seems like that is a public insult and should result in infractions but I could care less. You tell people to air stuff out in private but come on here and lie about me.


You are a piece of work. So how much is CW paying you ?

This is my last post on this topic with you. If you want to continue all day, knock yourself out. What I'm interested in is betting games.

The reason I made that comment to you was not only because of the PM you made referring me to Blackdog, but because of your constant posts in the huge CW thread about 'why would anyone play there, they havent been around long as blackdog, its a scam, blah blah blah'. So yeah, it did look like you had an agenda AGAINST CW. And then throw in the PM referring me to blackdog, you're goddamn right I thought something was fishy.

[pokernut9999]

Still hijacking a thread either way, you contadict yourself all the time. At least 5 times today, so your credibility sucks bud.

I am done, you are nothing but an ass.