[KickABuck]

First off, I am not a troll or otherwise. I'm wanting to place some online wagers for a few boxing matches this weekend but I have one problem- I'm a U.S. Citizen and live in the U.S. currently.

Am I able to place wagers legally? What do I need to know? I would like to do it via credit card but am not sure what sites to use. I know a couple of sites that don't have "United States" as a country option when trying to join but a couple of the other sites DO allow you to sign up.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks, Michael

[BeatTheJerk]

here some advice "walk away from this and never look back "............

[CrazyLou]

Welcome to the SBR forum buddy. This is more of a community than an informational portal, so stick around too and discuss some games. I like Hopkins tomorrow

It's legal to play online, it's not legal for banks to process online gambling transactions. However those are tricky to identify and the laws are entirely unenforceable.

I'd suggest using Beted.com or Youwager.com, both have very high credit card acceptance rates and are secure books. At Beted you must scan your ID in along with their credit card authorization form you can print online, at Youwager.com you may fund your account and fax in your form prior to requesting a withdrawal.

[michael777]

kick,listen to jerks post,best advice you could ever get

[accuscoresucks]

yep,agree stay far far far away

[KickABuck]

Originally Posted by crazyl

Welcome to the SBR forum buddy. This is more of a community than an informational portal, so stick around too and discuss some games. I like Hopkins tomorrow

It's legal to play online, it's not legal for banks to process online gambling transactions. However those are tricky to identify and the laws are entirely unenforceable.

I'd suggest using Beted.com or Youwager.com, both have very high credit card acceptance rates and are secure books. At Beted you must scan your ID in along with their credit card authorization form you can print online, at Youwager.com you may fund your account and fax in your form prior to requesting a withdrawal.

I've read some of your previous posts and you seem to be very knowledgeable. So, in order to use Beted I need a scanner?? Is that correct. I understand this is "safer", but what about other sites that'll just allow me to use my CC and place the bets? I'm not looking to fax and/or scan my personal information. I don't have a scanner or fax machine and probably wouldn't even bet if I had to go that route.

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by KickABuck

I've read some of your previous posts and you seem to be very knowledgeable. So, in order to use Beted I need a scanner?? Is that correct. I understand this is "safer", but what about other sites that'll just allow me to use my CC and place the bets? I'm not looking to fax and/or scan my personal information. I don't have a scanner or fax machine and probably wouldn't even bet if I had to go that route.

Yes, in order to deposit at Beted w/ credit card, you must first scan a copy of your ID, along with front/back of card, and their authorization form. They won't credit your account w/ the deposit until then.

At youwager.com, you have to provide a SSN# to make a credit card deposit, but you won't need to fax or scan your authorization form until you request a withdrawal. You'd be able to play once your card is accepted.

I can't recall a book offhand that will allow you to deposit/withdrawal w/ credit card without verifying your ID. The only I can even think of that would aren't rated very highly by SBR.

Bigboydan may have a book in mind but I don't think you'll be able to just get in and out without faxing an ID or CC form over. If you want, you can send cash through Moneygram at walmart without faxing an ID in at 5dimes.com. They pay very fast.

[guitarjosh]

The legality depends on which state you live in.

[curious]

Originally Posted by KickABuck

First off, I am not a troll or otherwise. I'm wanting to place some online wagers for a few boxing matches this weekend but I have one problem- I'm a U.S. Citizen and live in the U.S. currently.

Am I able to place wagers legally? What do I need to know? I would like to do it via credit card but am not sure what sites to use. I know a couple of sites that don't have "United States" as a country option when trying to join but a couple of the other sites DO allow you to sign up.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks, Michael

Don't do it. Instead of wagering put the money you were going to bet in a CD at your bank and then watch the fight and congratulate yourself on winning.

I don't know how much you were planning on wagering and how often. But, if you put that same money in CDs at your bank and then just watch and enjoy the games, and reinvest the interest everytime the CDs come due, you will build up a nice nest egg over the years. And, regardless of who wins or loses the contests you were going to wager on you can celebrate being a winner. Because you basically made a wager with yourself and you won either way.

[BuddyBear]

Don't waste your time betting on sports. It's just about the worst thing you can with your life.

Find another hobby before it becomes to large an addiction.

[KickABuck]

Originally Posted by crazyl

Yes, in order to deposit at Beted w/ credit card, you must first scan a copy of your ID, along with front/back of card, and their authorization form. They won't credit your account w/ the deposit until then.

At youwager.com, you have to provide a SSN# to make a credit card deposit, but you won't need to fax or scan your authorization form until you request a withdrawal. You'd be able to play once your card is accepted.

I can't recall a book offhand that will allow you to deposit/withdrawal w/ credit card without verifying your ID. The only I can even think of that would aren't rated very highly by SBR.

Bigboydan may have a book in mind but I don't think you'll be able to just get in and out without faxing an ID or CC form over. If you want, you can send cash through Moneygram at walmart without faxing an ID in at 5dimes.com. They pay very fast.

Interesting. I appreciate all the information Crazy. I guess it's good that there are those security measures. I figured once I deposited my money I wouldn't have any problems getting a return if I won. Obviously, it's much more complicated than that. I probably won't get around to betting this weekend if I have to fax/scan personal information. I will consider it for future bets though.

I thought about just using Sportsbook.com because the site is easy to navigate and such but I've heard some negative things about that site.

[KickABuck]

Originally Posted by curious

Don't do it. Instead of wagering put the money you were going to bet in a CD at your bank and then watch the fight and congratulate yourself on winning.

LOL! Man, some of you are REALLY pushing me not to get into it. It's cool, I haven't an addictive personality or anything. I just like the odds on a few fights this weekend and wanted to parlay them. I was only gonna bet $100 total, no big deal.

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by KickABuck

I thought about just using Sportsbook.com because the site is easy to navigate and such but I've heard some negative things about that site.

Well since you asked I'll go ahead and say it.

If you are going to play there, I'd highly recommend using Linesmaker.com instead (a skin of Sportsbook), they have their own customer service department and are pretty helpful. They've just added a new feature where they track your payouts through the DHL courier used to deliver the checks. You'd be paid in 2-3 weeks.

You can do what you desire there as far as funding instantly and then withdrawing. Be advised that in the past players which abused bonuses there by accepting at multiple Sportsbook sister sites have had balances confiscated, if you just make bets there without fooling around at multiple sister sites youll be fine.

[BuddyBear]

Originally Posted by KickABuck

I thought about just using Sportsbook.com because the site is easy to navigate and such but I've heard some negative things about that site.

DO NOT EVERY DEPOSIT INTO SPORTSBOOK.COM. This is one of the worst books out there.

All sportsbooks are easy to navigate after a few minutes. If you are a beginner, I highly recommend bet jamaica or bodog. I think you'll find betjamaica to meet all your needs. But you should never fund sportsbook.com

[BeatTheJerk]

your 1st 100 lost can turn in to 10,000 usd in the hole quite shortly my friend .........

[BeatTheJerk]

crazyL dont ever endorse linesmaker.com in front of me please ........... that sister book of the sportsbook.com group stiffed me 18 k 5 yrs ago .............. my story is on sportsbookreview.com if u missed it .............

[BeatTheJerk]

just do me that favor please ...........

[curious]

Originally Posted by KickABuck

LOL! Man, some of you are REALLY pushing me not to get into it. It's cool, I haven't an addictive personality or anything. I just like the odds on a few fights this weekend and wanted to parlay them. I was only gonna bet $100 total, no big deal.

Well, in that case can I be your bookie? Just wire me the money.

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk

crazyL dont ever endorse linesmaker.com in front of me please ........... that sister book of the sportsbook.com group stiffed me 18 k 5 yrs ago .............. my story is on sportsbookreview.com if u missed it .............

I know there are a lot of players with the correlated parlay saga and the bonus abuse situations, but Linesmaker has actually been paying and you can even see their rating is higher than Sportsbooks.

Shamswoof plays there regularly also, and he's cashed out from there every month with max. checks and posted screenshots of their new payout tracker.

[KickABuck]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

DO NOT EVERY DEPOSIT INTO SPORTSBOOK.COM. This is one of the worst books out there.

All sportsbooks are easy to navigate after a few minutes. If you are a beginner, I highly recommend bet jamaica or bodog. I think you'll find betjamaica to meet all your needs. But you should never fund sportsbook.com

O.k., I have a question about Bodog's verification agreement form. What's the whole "rub a pencil lightly across your cc deal??" I don't get it. I know, stupid question. That seems like a pretty lame duck way to ascertain information. Why don't they just ask you to photocopy your CC on the same piece of paper as your photo ID and send it in as opposed to literally doing both?

[KickABuck]

Originally Posted by crazyl

Well since you asked I'll go ahead and say it.

If you are going to play there, I'd highly recommend using Linesmaker.com instead (a skin of Sportsbook), they have their own customer service department and are pretty helpful. They've just added a new feature where they track your payouts through the DHL courier used to deliver the checks. You'd be paid in 2-3 weeks.

You can do what you desire there as far as funding instantly and then withdrawing. Be advised that in the past players which abused bonuses there by accepting at multiple Sportsbook sister sites have had balances confiscated, if you just make bets there without fooling around at multiple sister sites youll be fine.

Hmm, well that sounds like a decent enough option, but my dumb ass will probably get burned. I should probably just go the extra-length and do it using the safer methods. Does it cost money to have DHL deliver the checks? Is that how ALL books pay the money? Are they not able to fund your CC automatically?

I have no desire to abuse bonuses and such. I just want to lay a couple of parlays.

[BeatTheJerk]

parlays will kill u son ...............

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by KickABuck

Hmm, well that sounds like a decent enough option, but my dumb ass will probably get burned. I should probably just go the extra-length and do it using the safer methods. Does it cost money to have DHL deliver the checks? Is that how ALL books pay the money? Are they not able to fund your CC automatically?

I have no desire to abuse bonuses and such. I just want to lay a couple of parlays.

Listen you're never going to get most of these posters to say a good thing about them. However, the honest truth is, they are not going to steal your deposit.

Thing is, Sportsbook has multiple skins, and players would take bonuses at all of them, and bet against them. That's the truth of the matter. And then there was the correlated parlay situation which they outlawed, and still players would abuse this. That's in the past.

They are PAYING, you get one free payout per month, the rest cost $40 for a check....Here's a thread where poster Shamswoof posts their check delivery tracker method. You can see a screenshot of all the payouts he's been sent with them.

[ShamsWoof10]

Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk

crazyL dont ever endorse linesmaker.com in front of me please ........... that sister book of the sportsbook.com group stiffed me 18 k 5 yrs ago .............. my story is on sportsbookreview.com if u missed it .............

LOOK!!!!!!!!

I highly doubt anyone has played with LMaker more then I have in the past two years and they have never stiffed me... When I see others rip the Sportsbook.com family I have to think that they tried f*ckin' them and got f*cked themselves.. I know a few instances but the truth is never told... The posters here also do not have the highest morals and most of you jerkoffs have tried f*ckin' books but will never admit to it...

What really gets on my nerves is NOOOOOT ONE F*CKIN' REPORT by our boys here at SBR about players trying to screw Sportsbook.com.... Don't tell me that sh*t doesn't happen but SBR is more concerned about their pocket book and stupid sh*t for traffic instead of HONESTY... American Idol garbage and stupid video's to list a couple...

I like this place but the mods words ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED... I have been here for TWO YEARS and the mods do nothing but spin things to serve their purpose...

Hey mods you should work in the White House!!!!

Most of the mods are full of sh*t!!!!

[KickABuck]

Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk

parlays will kill u son ...............

These are good bets I have in mind. If I lose, it's still worth it to try. The juice is worth the squeeze on these bro

[BeatTheJerk]

go for it ..........

[ShamsWoof10]

Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk

go for it ..........

Yeah that's what I thought!!!

[KickABuck]

Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk

go for it ..........

This is what I'm thinking about betting:

$50 parlay on O'Neil Bell (+155), Chris Henry (+250), and Bernard Hopkins (+200) to win.

That will payoff $1,288 if it hits. I am, however, LESS confident Henry will be victorious than the other fighters I listed so I'm also thinking about parlaying just the Hopkins and Bell fights with a $50 bet.

I'm kind of pissed though because a couple sites I looked at had better odds for the Henry vs. Diaconu fight. Oh well, better than nothing.

[BeatTheJerk]

look shamswoof u have no idea what i went through with linesmaker ........ ok yes they were very good to me for 2 years but when i hit 18 k parlay they stiffed me becasue they told me i violated their rules by taking a bonus at 3 different of their sister sites ......... they did settle with me at an undisclosed amount which i cant discuss ...... but that was a complete nightmere bra ok ............

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk

look shamswoof u have no idea what i went through with linesmaker ........ ok yes they were very good to me for 2 years but when i hit 18 k parlay they stiffed me becasue they told me i violated their rules by taking a bonus at 3 different of their sister sites ......... they did settle with me at an undisclosed amount which i cant discuss ...... but that was a complete nightmere bra ok ............

See this, KickABuck

Look at his ass just CONFESS to what Shams and I just mentioned. This is the same guy that tried to pile on me when I recommended Linesmaker to you.

LoL!

[KickABuck]

Originally Posted by crazyl

They are PAYING, you get one free payout per month, the rest cost $40 for a check....Here's a thread where poster Shamswoof posts their check delivery tracker method. You can see a screenshot of all the payouts he's been sent with them.

So, if I place two separate bets at Sportsbook and win, they'll send two separate checks and will charge me $40 for one of them? Is that correct?

[BeatTheJerk]

look kickabuck your trying to build up your bankroll way to fast thats what newbies usually do like i did when i 1st started out ....... u need to focus on building your bankroll slowley and the best way to do that is to use str8 bets ............ all those picks r dogs ......... if you pick them individually im telling u .............. u will do alot better in the long run ..........

[ShamsWoof10]

Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk

look shamswoof u have no idea what i went through with linesmaker ........ ok yes they were very good to me for 2 years but when i hit 18 k parlay they stiffed me becasue they told me i violated their rules by taking a bonus at 3 different of their sister sites ......... they did settle with me at an undisclosed amount which i cant discuss ...... but that was a complete nightmere bra ok ............

NO IT'S NOT F*CKIN' OK!!!

Don't scam bonuses and this sh*t won't happen...

Just because you hit a parlay does NOT make it OK...

Most of you posters are a f*ckin' joke... Toss a few mods in there too...

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by KickABuck

So, if I place two separate bets at Sportsbook and win, they'll send two separate checks and will charge me $40 for one of them? Is that correct?

Listen this is how it works. Say you deposit 100, you can win as many bets as you want. YOU decide when to cash out by requesting a payout in your Account screen. They don't just send you a check automatically when you win a bet. Whenever you'd like a payout, just request one and it'll be processed. It's up to you when you'd like one.

Say you deposit 100, win a few bets.... whenever you want to cashout, you have a check sent free of charge. Then if you want another check the next week, the fee tacks on. Or you can wait another 30 days and have another free check.

[BeatTheJerk]

crazyL i didnt even know those sites were sister sites untill i won big .............