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Old 04-15-08, 12:10 AM   #1
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Default Is there any MLB matchup that you would lay -185 on?

I cant think of one.
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Old 04-15-08, 12:11 AM   #2
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-185 fuck that.

I'd rather play small dogs or baby favorites, or totals.
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Old 04-15-08, 12:19 AM   #3
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Old 04-15-08, 03:16 AM   #4
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Yes.... If I feel a game should be 250 or higher and the line is 185 I will at least consider playing it. I hate laying numbers like that and very very rarely will do it. But there are times where its more than acceptable imo
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Old 04-15-08, 08:13 AM   #5
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No, I never even lay -130...LOL
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Old 04-15-08, 08:38 AM   #6
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N.O Spells No.

I have a hard time betting over -130, but I would say 95% of my bets are underdogs.
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Old 04-15-08, 10:41 AM   #7
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I will gladly lay -185 and beyond when it is +EV.

And, yes, there are +EV opportunities at those prices.
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Old 04-15-08, 10:42 AM   #8
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Hell no!

Even the BEST teams lose 60+ games each year!
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Old 04-15-08, 10:47 AM   #9
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Yes, absolutely.
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Old 04-15-08, 10:51 AM   #10
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Johan Santana at home V Pitt's fifth starter ?

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Old 04-15-08, 11:04 AM   #11
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Yes. Any team that has JJ batting cleanup.
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Default Is there any MLB matchup that you would lay -185 on?

Jake Peavy vs the Giants with Russ Ortiz or Woody Williams starting, I'd have to at least think about that one.
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Old 04-15-08, 11:17 AM   #13
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Basically what someone is saying when they won't lay above -170 is that no team has a greater than 64.9% of winning the game.

If that is in fact the case, then the books and markets are mis pricing games with large favorites. If that's the case, every game at +190 or above would be profitable and we should all be raking in cash betting all of them.

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Basically what someone is saying when they won't lay above -170 is that no team has a greater than 64.9% of winning the game.

If that is in fact the case, then the books and markets are mis pricing games with large favorites. If that's the case, every game at +190 or above would be profitable and we should all be raking in cash betting all of them.
The best team in baseball will only win about 62% of the time and the worst team will still win about 38%. So if my handicapping points me to a big favorite, I'd much rather pass the game than lay those odds. That is not the same thing as saying bet all big dogs blindly.
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When you have the top pitchers going against low level teams I will all the time.

Games like last Friday Astros/Oswalt and Saturday Cleveland/Carmona no because the teams they are playing were hot coming in and they are not in my opiniion reliable as neither was team playing well.

Give me Sheets, Peavy , Webb against crappy teams and yes.
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Jake Peavy vs the Giants with Russ Ortiz or Woody Williams starting, I'd have to at least think about that one.

You can't make up teams Mr Bee. I would take peavy on the yankees with pap closing over the UGA bulldogs.

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When you have the top pitchers going against low level teams I will all the time.

Games like last Friday Astros/Oswalt and Saturday Cleveland/Carmona no because the teams they are playing were hot coming in and they are not in my opiniion reliable as neither was team playing well.

Give me Sheets, Peavy , Webb against crappy teams and yes.


Sheets is under .500 in his career.
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Sheets is under .500 in his career.
Did not say every game, talking in the present. The way those guys are pitching now if they came up -185 vs crap teams I would play them.

It is obvious you cant not lay -185+ every time a pitcher or good team plays. There are selective times a big line is worth it.
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Sure if it's free money. When you win there's no juice.
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Actually, BLINDLY playing all underdogs greater than +200 is 371-882, -1.51 units since 1999. It should not take much filtering to turn -1.51 into a nice profit.
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Actually, BLINDLY playing all underdogs greater than +200 is 371-882, -1.51 units since 1999. It should not take much filtering to turn -1.51 into a nice profit.
Or vice versa
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Only if i'm really confident on it but only 1/1000 plays.
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Sure if it's free money. When you win there's no juice.
there's juice whenever you place a bet, win or lose (perhaps unless you were playing at no-juice sportsbook, which i believe was a deposit only operation)
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It does not happen often, but if the statistics and trends take me in that direction I'll go with the heavy fav.
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Webb vs Zito Wednesday , book it.
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When Its A Winner Theres No Juice.
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Webb vs Zito Wednesday , book it.
Still can't do it but definitely a good parlay option for Hudson or Penny.
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Old 04-16-08, 12:10 AM   #29
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Yeah i agree with dio... Good parlay option but i wouldnt play it on singles..
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When Its A Winner Theres No Juice.


what about when its a loser?

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Old 04-16-08, 12:11 AM   #31
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I like underdogs myself...
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I like underdogs myself...


nats +190?
Cinci +185?


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dont pick losers no problem
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Old 04-16-08, 12:16 AM   #34
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AL east against the Texas Rangers.
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Old 04-16-08, 12:20 AM   #35
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dont pick losers no problem


well we cant all be all in on an awful play and get bailed out with 11 runs in 3 innings.

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