[curious]

Iran is building an offensive missile base. Buying advanced missile technology from China. Working feverishly to develop nuclear weapons.

Israel recently named one of its most ferocious fighters as head of the "Iranian Front". They also are creating a new combined arms army with special training in asymmetric warfare. EVERYONE in Israel is being called up for active reserve duty. Active reserve duty is a kind of full time soldier who also works their normal job. They keep their gear at home, and can be in full battle formation in under an hour.

When Iran gets near to realizing its aims to have credible offensive missile capability, Israel will destroy both Syria and Iran's war making capability.

The United States will never stand by while Iran destroys Israel, or while they develop a credible offensive missile capability combined with nuclear weapons.

Whether the war to destory Syria and Iran will be a joint US/Israeli operation or US will be a silent partner remains to be seen. One thing is certain though, Iran is driving fast down a highway toward its destruction.

The DemoCong would like for people in the US to believe that Iran poses some sort of serious threat to the US military. This is preposterous. The US military could start in the morning and by late afternoon Iran would have no ability to wage war of any kind against anyone. The Israelis are an even bigger threat to Iran. Israel possesses 65 nuclear weapons and if pushed to use them, they will. [I made a typo here earlier]

Israel has learned the hard lesson that they cannot trust western Europe to enforce a "negotiated" peace. In every Muslim / Israeli war since '47 the Muslims were in danger of being totally destroyed and the Europeans intervened on behalf of the Muslims with promises of "peace in our time". The Israelis will not fall for this again. When Syria and Iran are on the brink of destruction, the Israelis will not be deterred by intervention from the West. They won't be answering the phone.

[durito]

Maybe you can call in an airstrike

[purecarnagge]

Isreal has for along time had plans to remove irans's first strike capabilities. Isreal is no joke. Syria is kinda weak but yah Isreal and take Iran out rather quickly on its own.


Its projected the US/GB would then come in a shield to protect isreal if needed, which is unlikely.

[BuddyBear]

I take it you did not hear much about the latest National Intelligence Estimate report then????

[curious]

Originally Posted by durito

Maybe you can call in an airstrike

Maybe you can go phuck yourself you goddam piece of shit.

[curious]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

I take it you did not hear much about the latest National Intelligence Estimate report then????

By "hear much about" do you mean read and re-read several times? If so, then yes I heard about it.

[slacker00]

Originally Posted by purecarnagge

Isreal has for along time had plans to remove irans's first strike capabilities. Isreal is no joke. Syria is kinda weak but yah Isreal and take Iran out rather quickly on its own.


Its projected the US/GB would then come in a shield to protect isreal if needed, which is unlikely.

Sounds good. Let these other countries pay for expensive war for a change. What, we're always supposed to pick up the bill?

[BuddyBear]

Originally Posted by curious

By "hear much about" do you mean read and re-read several times? If so, then yes I heard about it.

And you still some how arrived at this conclusion?

[OLGC_Slayer]

Originally Posted by curious

Iran is building an offensive missile base. Buying advanced missile technology from China. Working feverishly to develop nuclear weapons.

Israel recently named one of its most ferocious fighters as head of the "Iranian Front". They also are creating a new combined arms army with special training in asymmetric warfare. EVERYONE in Israel is being called up for active reserve duty. Active reserve duty is a kind of full time soldier who also works their normal job. They keep their gear at home, and can be in full battle formation in under an hour.

When Iran gets near to realizing its aims to have credible offensive missile capability, Israel will destroy both Syria and Iran's war making capability.

The United States will never stand by while Iran destroys Israel, or while they develop a credible offensive missile capability combined with nuclear weapons.

Whether the war to destory Syria and Iran will be a joint US/Israeli operation or US will be a silent partner remains to be seen. One thing is certain though, Iran is driving fast down a highway toward its destruction.

The DemoCong would like for people in the US to believe that Iran poses some sort of serious threat to the US military. This is preposterous. The US military could start in the morning and by late afternoon Iran would have no ability to wage war of any kind against anyone. The Israelis are an even bigger threat to Iran. Iran possesses 65 nuclear weapons and if pushed to use them, they will.

Israel has learned the hard lesson that they cannot trust western Europe to enforce a "negotiated" peace. In every Muslim / Israeli war since '47 the Muslims were in danger of being totally destroyed and the Europeans intervened on behalf of the Muslims with promises of "peace in our time". The Israelis will not fall for this again. When Syria and Iran are on the brink of destruction, the Israelis will not be deterred by intervention from the West. They won't be answering the phone.

You're a brainwashed moron.

[OLGC_Slayer]

Let me ask you something genius:

When did Israel become the 51st state?

[Thor4140]

Originally Posted by OLGC_Slayer

Let me ask you something genius:

When did Israel become the 51st state?

when they somehow con us into given them billions of our tax dollars when in fact they have a 17 dollar min wage and universal healthcare for their very own people. Nice gig they have their.

[OLGC_Slayer]

This ding-dong has been listening to too much Michelle Malkin.

[Thor4140]

Originally Posted by OLGC_Slayer

This ding-dong has been listening to too much Michelle Malkin.

how about nitwit neocon radio? He told me once that the Clinton recovery was all about the Reagan policy's
The don't even talk about Bush Senior anymore.

[durito]

Originally Posted by OLGC_Slayer

Let me ask you something genius:

When did Israel become the 51st state?

about 50 years ago


ask curious, he was undercover as a secret mercenary in their army

[Dark Horse]

The neocon/zionist fascists have long planned to go into Iran after Iraq. They just got held up too long in the first country, and now they're running out of time. Will be interesting to see if their well oiled propaganda machine is going to spin into overdrive.

Iran should be commended for standing up to this fascist cable. Their WMD are as 'real' as Sadam's, but even the argument that we should prevent them from developing nukes is absurd. If Israel is pointed nukes at them, why should they not have that same right?

Get the zionists out of American politics!

[donjuan]

when they somehow con us into given them billions of our tax dollars when in fact they have a 17 dollar min wage

I forgot that when talking about Israel, both sides are allowed to completely make shít up.

FYI, the monthly minimum wage in Israel is approximately $940 for a 40-hour work week, according to the US State Department's website. Now I know most people on this forum aren't fond of math, but that works out to about $5.85 an hour.

[donjuan]

Iran should be commended for standing up to this fascist cable.

When using "big" words like cabal, you should probably learn to spell them so that you don't make a dick of yourself.

[Dark Horse]

Simple spelling mistake.

The dick is all yours, asshole.

[69882000]

I'm backing Israel -1800000

[purecarnagge]

Isreal's military is nothing to joke about. There spec ops area is just as good if not better than ours. I'm sure we have elite units better than theres, but on a wideranging scale, there spec ops is very good... GB SAS and American Delta/Beret quality.

[curious]

Originally Posted by OLGC_Slayer

Let me ask you something genius:

When did Israel become the 51st state?

When did America become a land of pussies who would let the Holocaust happen a second time when we could stop it?

[curious]

Originally Posted by Thor4140

how about nitwit neocon radio? He told me once that the Clinton recovery was all about the Reagan policy's
The don't even talk about Bush Senior anymore.

That isn't what I said. I said the economic recovery was due to the continuation of the fiscal policies begun by Reagan. And, that the DemoCong were upset with Clinton for continuing those policies. You then went on some irrelevent tirade about the budget. The fiscal policies I was referring to were not the budget deficit but more fundamental monetary policies.

Please try to tell at least credible lies.

[curious]

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

The neocon/zionist fascists have long planned to go into Iran after Iraq. They just got held up too long in the first country, and now they're running out of time. Will be interesting to see if their well oiled propaganda machine is going to spin into overdrive.

Iran should be commended for standing up to this fascist cable. Their WMD are as 'real' as Sadam's, but even the argument that we should prevent them from developing nukes is absurd. If Israel is pointed nukes at them, why should they not have that same right?

Get the zionists out of American politics!

So, the facts that we have been at war with Iran since 1979, that they are directly responsible for the murder of hundreds of American civilians and service men and women, that they are now fighting a war against us in Iraq, that they have threatened to inflict a second Holocaust on Israel and are actively seeking the means to do so, these facts mean what? That we should sit around the campfire with these murderers and sing kumbaya (spelling?)?

Of course Iran is a target, they are our ENEMY.

Please stop drinking the DemoCong koolaid and take the tin foil hat off.

[OLGC_Slayer]

Originally Posted by purecarnagge

Isreal's military is nothing to joke about. There spec ops area is just as good if not better than ours. I'm sure we have elite units better than theres, but on a wideranging scale, there spec ops is very good... GB SAS and American Delta/Beret quality.

They got their asses handed to them by a bunch of rag tags in Lebanon. Its a myth.

[OLGC_Slayer]

Originally Posted by curious

When did America become a land of pussies who would let the Holocaust happen a second time when we could stop it?

You are insane.

[curious]

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

The neocon/zionist fascists have long planned to go into Iran after Iraq. They just got held up too long in the first country, and now they're running out of time. Will be interesting to see if their well oiled propaganda machine is going to spin into overdrive.

Iran should be commended for standing up to this fascist cable. Their WMD are as 'real' as Sadam's, but even the argument that we should prevent them from developing nukes is absurd. If Israel is pointed nukes at them, why should they not have that same right?

Get the zionists out of American politics!

"Iran should be commended...." Really? Should Iran also be commended for murdering hundreds of Americans from 1979 to 2008? Should Iran be commended for equipping, financing, and arming a terrorist organization which fired thousands of rockets into civilian areas in Israel after their kidnapping of IDF soldiers was met with retaliation? An act which was blessed by their Iranian masters? Should Iran be commended for arming and equipping the murderers in Gaza who daily fire rockets into civilian areas in southern Israel? Should Iran be commended for recruiting, arming, equipping, and training death squads in Iraq who target off duty American soldiers and Iraqi civilians?

Israel didn't threaten to murder 100% of Iran's citizens. Iran did threaten to do that to Israel, and is actively seeking the means to carry out that threat. For the leaders of Israel to sit back and do nothing in face of that threat would be tantamount to treason.

Iraq did have WMDs. The coalition forces found thousands of artillery shells fitted with nerve gas and chemical agents. True, they did not find everything they expected to find, but that doesn't mean it never existed.

The real concern should be "where are the nerve gas, chemical weapons, and biological weapons that we know Iraq produced and stockpiled in the years prior to the invasion"? There are several possibilities, only one of them good:
1. Terrorists got hold of some of them.
2. They were shipped to Syria and Iran.
3. They are on the blackmarket. (A Pakistani physicist ran a very active blackmarket in WMDs for many years, this network was never destroyed).
4. Sadaam destroyed 100% of them.

Now, if you believe number 4 you are truly delusional.

Another fact that the so-called media neglected to mention is that the coalition forces found dozens of mobile laboratories capable of producing nerve agents, chemical agents, and biological agents. These laboratories were small and disguised as something innocuous.

Yes, there was hyperbole on both sides about the WMDs. But to say that Iraq possessed ZERO WMDs or the capability to quickly produce WMDs is an out and out lie.

[curious]

Originally Posted by OLGC_Slayer

They got their asses handed to them by a bunch of rag tags in Lebanon. Its a myth.

Hezbollah is not a bunch of rag tags. They are a small special ops force which has been recruited, equipped, armed, and trained by Syrian and Iranian intelligence agencies and special operations branches. They are highly trained and well equipped.

True, Hezbollah did inflict significant casualties on the IDF. This was partly due to IDF rules of engagement which made it difficult to engage cowards who were using civilians as human shields. Also, the tactics used in the early fighting were improper for Rattenkrieg (rat war). But the IDF changed tactics and destroyed all of Hezbollah's rockets, which was the goal of the offensive. Olmert is culpable in the problems the IDF had because he is a complete moron and interfered with the IDF command structure. The entire general staff of the IDF threatened to resign over this nonsense. I don't think that will happen again.

The DemoCong propaganda machine turned Hezbollah's defeat into a "victory".

I guarantee you one thing. When the IDF fights Hezbollah again, they won't use rules of engagement that favor the rats and they will exterminate the entire lot of them.

Unfortunately for Hezbollah and her masters in Damascus and Tehran, Israel came to the conclusion that their true enemy is not the proxy force in Lebanon, but the puppets who pull the strings in Damascus and Tehran. The next war will not be limited to destroying Hezbollah, but will also include removing the war making capability of Syria and Iran.

[curious]

Originally Posted by OLGC_Slayer

You are insane.

So, you are saying that Iran did not threaten a second Holocaust on the Jews?

And, you are saying that Iran is not actively seeking the means to carry out this threat?

[OLGC_Slayer]

Originally Posted by curious

So, you are saying that Iran did not threaten a second Holocaust on the Jews?

And, you are saying that Iran is not actively seeking the means to carry out this threat?

Yes and yes. Paranoid crazyman. Enough Americans have died already for Israel. Your ranting about the holocaust is just laughable really. Its funny how anytime a political discussion takes place about Israel some nutjob (re:You) has to start throwing around the term holocaust. Its sickening.

How many nuclear missiles does Israel have again? I wonder if America's "good friend" Israel is going to steal anymore of its military technology and sell it to China, like they have been caught doing atleast 3 times in the past 20 years? Some friend. Bankrupting you and stealing from you and then crying that your not doing enough.

How about if you want to attack Iran you go right ahead and leave the rest of us out of it. Fight your own battles for once and stop crying for American money and blood. America is already bankrupt. They can't be trolloping around the Middle East killing your enemies just because you scream "holocaust".

[OLGC_Slayer]

Originally Posted by curious

Hezbollah is not a bunch of rag tags. They are a small special ops force which has been recruited, equipped, armed, and trained by Syrian and Iranian intelligence agencies and special operations branches. They are highly trained and well equipped.

True, Hezbollah did inflict significant casualties on the IDF. This was partly due to IDF rules of engagement which made it difficult to engage cowards who were using civilians as human shields. Also, the tactics used in the early fighting were improper for Rattenkrieg (rat war). But the IDF changed tactics and destroyed all of Hezbollah's rockets, which was the goal of the offensive. Olmert is culpable in the problems the IDF had because he is a complete moron and interfered with the IDF command structure. The entire general staff of the IDF threatened to resign over this nonsense. I don't think that will happen again.

The DemoCong propaganda machine turned Hezbollah's defeat into a "victory".

I guarantee you one thing. When the IDF fights Hezbollah again, they won't use rules of engagement that favor the rats and they will exterminate the entire lot of them.

Unfortunately for Hezbollah and her masters in Damascus and Tehran, Israel came to the conclusion that their true enemy is not the proxy force in Lebanon, but the puppets who pull the strings in Damascus and Tehran. The next war will not be limited to destroying Hezbollah, but will also include removing the war making capability of Syria and Iran.

Maybe Israel should stop putting Palestinians in concentration camps and stealing their land and destroying their olive groves and water, eh?
I mean listen to how you talk. You are insane with religious and racial hatred. I don't care if your Jewish, your as bad as the most insane jihadi. Peas in a pod.
I could care less about Israel. Its just another crazy middle east country full of fanatical nutjobs like yourself. Problem is the same mindset of nutjobs are currently in control of the US government.

[OLGC_Slayer]

I am done talking about this. So don't expect a reply. I am here to talk about baseball, not about how Americans should suffer from more death and bankruptcy defending Israel.

[BuddyBear]

Israel is about as close to a useless country as you will ever find. Israel does next to nothing to advance the United States' interests, and the U.S. obediently answers to Israel no matter what.

Just about every nation in the world is critical of the Israel government, even Israelis themselves. Every nation in this world is supportive of the Palestinians and supports their continued struggle for freedom. Only the U.S. refuses to criticize a thing that Israel does. The U.S. is an absolute joke.....it's them and Israel who are an impedement to peace and not the other way around. Israel does not want peace, it wants to expand. Most people fail to realize that b/c they've been brainwashed by the Israel Lobby and corporate news media in this country. Watch any news station and you'll find nary a critical voice of Israel among the established news personalities in this country. Even the most "liberal" radio hosts defend Israel no matter the crime or massacre they committ.

Anyway, for those of you interested in an intellectual read on this topic, feel free to look over the critically aclaimed The Israel Lobby by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt esteemed professors at some of the finest academic institutions in the world.

Of course, not critically acclaimed by the corporate media but by anyone with half a brain or conscience. They lay out the situation with evidence and let the facts do the talking about the current situation and how Israel is subverting the peace process. You won't hear the standard emotive bluster about irrelevant events that that happened generations and centuries ago in this book.

here is a link to it, http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U...8018719&sr=1-1

[curious]

Originally Posted by OLGC_Slayer

Yes and yes. Paranoid crazyman. Enough Americans have died already for Israel. Your ranting about the holocaust is just laughable really. Its funny how anytime a political discussion takes place about Israel some nutjob (re:You) has to start throwing around the term holocaust. Its sickening.

How many nuclear missiles does Israel have again? I wonder if America's "good friend" Israel is going to steal anymore of its military technology and sell it to China, like they have been caught doing atleast 3 times in the past 20 years? Some friend. Bankrupting you and stealing from you and then crying that your not doing enough.

How about if you want to attack Iran you go right ahead and leave the rest of us out of it. Fight your own battles for once and stop crying for American money and blood. America is already bankrupt. They can't be trolloping around the Middle East killing your enemies just because you scream "holocaust".

So, the President of Iran did not say in a speech that was broadcast worldwide that he was going to annihilate Israel? Are you certain of that?

And, Iran is not in the middle of building an offensive missile base , which can have no purpose other than to launch attacks against countries within a 2500 mile radius? Are you certain about that?

And, Iran did not just purchase offensive missiles with a range of 2500 miles from China to install in said missile base? Are you certain about that?

<<if you want to invade Iran....

Didn't say I wanted to invade Iran, just said that if Iran keeps to the course that they are on their destruction is inevitable. That is an observation, not a "want".

No one knows how many nuclear warheads Israel has for certain. The best guess is 65 missiles, many of which are multiple warhead, so, say 200 warheads altogether.

Last time I checked though, the Prime Minister of Israel was not making speeches to be broadcast worldwide calling for the total destruction of other nations. Unlike the President of Iran, who does make speeches like that.

[ShamsWoof10]

Originally Posted by curious

Iran is building an offensive missile base. Buying advanced missile technology from China. Working feverishly to develop nuclear weapons.

When Iran gets near to realizing its aims to have credible offensive missile capability, Israel will destroy both Syria and Iran's war making capability.

The United States will never stand by while Iran destroys Israel, or while they develop a credible offensive missile capability combined with nuclear weapons.

MAN..... you guys really need to do research on your own... Curious you were in the military and you of all people should know that from the minute you join...it is nothing but one lie after another... They showed Sat. photos of this so called missle capability... In the photo there is NO EVIDENCE of missles or anything else... They can throw up a photo of a football game and tell you it's a missle site and you would buy it.. What's worse is after so many years of being lied to the people still trust the ones who lie to them... UNREAL!!!

Originally Posted by curious

Iran is building an offensive missile base. Buying advanced missile technology from China. Working feverishly to develop nuclear weapons.

The DemoCong would like for people in the US to believe that Iran poses some sort of serious threat to the US military. This is preposterous. The US military could start in the morning and by late afternoon Iran would have no ability to wage war of any kind against anyone. The Israelis are an even bigger threat to Iran. Iran possesses 65 nuclear weapons and if pushed to use them, they will.

We ...CURIOUS for one have become such zombies that we believe anything they are told and simply repeat it without thought...

How does this make sense... He is all over the f*ckin' place...

The saaaaaaaaaaaaame people told you Iraq had WMD's and were specific about them... How can you know FOR SURE someone has something but not know where it is...?

Curious and everyone else... are you that stupid to believe the exact same script..????

THIS IS HOW YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE MEDIA ZOMBIES LIKE CURIOUS... THEY DOUBLE TALK!!!

[BuddyBear]

People in the military are brainwashed like no other.

They may be brave and what not, but brainwashed is probably the best description of the military.....