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    Default There aren't many 'Sharps' on these Boards...???

    Is that a "safe" assumption to make?

    The forum is more like a sports bettors' online support group (need a hug).

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    There aren't many "sharps" to begin with. Why would you assume they would all want to post their picks?
    Also, SBR performs a valuable service by protecting the rights of sports bettors, sort of like a sports bettors union, isn't it?

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    there are...you just have to know where to look

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    Quote Originally Posted by willyback View Post
    Is that a "safe" assumption to make?

    The forum is more like a sports bettors' online support group (need a hug).

    "Build your confidence during the day, blow your entire bankroll at night..."
    1. Assuming is never a safe thing to do

    2. looks like you're the one who needs the hug

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLGC_Slayer View Post
    There aren't many "sharps" to begin with. Why would you assume they would all want to post their picks?
    Also, SBR performs a valuable service by protecting the rights of sports bettors, sort of like a sports bettors union, isn't it?
    Point taken. Why empower the betting public? It only hurts your abilities to get paid in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgainstAllOdds View Post
    there are...you just have to know where to look
    whats your definition of a sharp? someone that makes any profit in a given sport over a season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WonTooManyBets View Post
    I'm 7-1 this week, profit = $8500.
    That's a sharp bettor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportsgirl View Post
    1. Assuming is never a safe thing to do

    2. looks like you're the one who needs the hug

    Man that was cold!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLGC_Slayer View Post
    whats your definition of a sharp? someone that makes any profit in a given sport over a season?
    Anybody that turns a considerable profit (year in, year out). Beating their bookie on a regular basis. Doesn't have to be on Billy Walters or Lefty Rosenthal status, but still has the ability to pick winners (whatever their individual handicapping methodology might be) and consistently get paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katstale View Post
    Man that was cold!!
    True, but it's stated from behind the comfort of her computer. It wasn't said to my face (in person) so, it really doesn't bother me. Everybody is free to say what they want (especially on these boards).

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    but still has the ability to pick winners
    Once you get away from the "winners" thinking, and towards the "right price" thinking, you'll have made a step in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLGC_Slayer View Post
    whats your definition of a sharp? someone that makes any profit in a given sport over a season?

    That would be part of it but Im thinking more along the lines of someone who is consistantly finding an edge in games and then bets it and is on the winning side more than usual...I would consider LT to be a sharp but if you have a diffrent deffintion, you may think otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willyback View Post
    True, but it's stated from behind the comfort of her computer. It wasn't said to my face (in person) so, it really doesn't bother me. Everybody is free to say what they want (especially on these boards).
    Willy - I was just teasing a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportsgirl View Post
    Willy - I was just teasing a bit.
    I know - that's why I put the thumbs up at the end of my response ( ). Not taking anything personal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donjuan View Post
    Once you get away from the "winners" thinking, and towards the "right price" thinking, you'll have made a step in the right direction.
    Well of course you're looking for a good price/quality line.

    Post UIGEA, line shopping is extremely hard to do (if you intend on getting paid). There are very few books that an American bettor could use to shop lines. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mofome View Post
    55% NFL/NCAAF/NCAAB aint no thing.
    Getting Paid, Getting Paid.

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    Well of course you're looking for a good price/quality line.

    Post UIGEA, line shopping is extremely hard to do (if you intend on getting paid). There are very few books that an American bettor could use to shop lines.
    Line shopping is essential, and not particularly hard. Also, I don't just mean shopping for the number, but realizing that there is never a wrong side, just a wrong price.

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    There plenty here, I would say at least 10

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    I don't care who is 'sharp'. I care who is winning. It makes no difference to me whether or not that evens out over the "long term", who knows where we'll be in 2 years.

    Only tail those with documented winning records in the here and now. More specifically, only tail those who are HOT..

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    Quote Originally Posted by donjuan View Post
    Line shopping is essential, and not particularly hard. Also, I don't just mean shopping for the number, but realizing that there is never a wrong side, just a wrong price.
    Point taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willyback View Post
    Well of course you're looking for a good price/quality line.

    Post UIGEA, line shopping is extremely hard to do (if you intend on getting paid). There are very few books that an American bettor could use to shop lines. .

    nonsense. you can get set up in a matter of days at 25 B rated or better books with minimal effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    nonsense. you can get set up in a matter of days at 25 B rated or better books with minimal effort.
    I'm not taking that risk. I play at well established books with reliable payout systems. Line shopping isn't everything. My focus is on winning the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    nonsense. you can get set up in a matter of days at 25 B rated or better books with minimal effort.
    I agree 100%. I have 10 of those B or better Books.

    Although funding/transferring to them has become somewhat more of an effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willyback View Post
    I'm not taking that risk. I play at well established books with reliable payout systems. Line shopping isn't everything. My focus is on winning the game.
    What risk; they're top rated books (B and better). If you're overall focus is on winning then you need to shop for the best price. You're right about the absence of sharps here, especially the guy that started this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willyback View Post
    Line shopping isn't everything. My focus is on winning the game.

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    I'm not taking that risk. I play at well established books with reliable payout systems. Line shopping isn't everything. My focus is on winning the game.
    So you said "point taken" just for the hell of it earlier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    I agree 100%. I have 10 of those B or better Books.

    Although funding/transferring to them has become somewhat more of an effort.
    100% correct.
    I have 4 books I mainly use, and 8 books funded B+ rated. Have funds spread over books depening on how often I use them.

    Furthermore, a sharp is onyone who is able to consistenly win +1% or more of their bankroll at the end of the year over a large sample. Thats my definition. The size of the sharp is an entirely difference, as a sharp betting 100$ a unit at 57%is going to make far less than a $1k per unit sharp at 55%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donjuan View Post
    ... realizing that there is never a wrong side, just a wrong price.
    This deserves a shift from the gerund to the imperative followed by a repeating in red, blinking text.

    Realize that there is never a wrong side, just a wrong price. --donjuan

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    I came name 4 of them. See above posts
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    There are some talented poster's around here, and I absolutely believe they are holding back their best sh!t, I'd be doing the same thing too, if I put that much time in researching it. Plus, I think it's bad karma to tell anybody your lock picks.

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