[onlooker]

These?

[HedgeHog]

I heard the greek has now changed 2nd half bets to a loss

thats shady

ABC changed my winning teaser to a loss too--nearly 24 hours later. What a crock!

[Shark79]

its safe to assume offshore dosent operate by vegas rules and are looking for any chance to take money??

your not assuming ... ur nailing it!

[Scorpion]

whAT HAPPENED?

[rjt721]

All ball.

[diogee]

whAT HAPPENED?

UCLA made a dunk at the end of the game that resulted in a push for UCLA -7 for the 2nd half. The dunk was clearly after time expired and they changed the score after the game so some wagers were re-graded.

[Willie Bee]

As for the call, I'm an Aggie and thought it should've been a foul. But I do my best not to ever blame a loss/credit a win on the refs or umps. I learned a long time ago that worrying about that sh¡t just isn't healthy for me. A&M had other opportunities and shouldn't have put themselves in a position to let the refs decide it like that.

As for books changing their grading, that's complete bullsh¡t. If it's their policy to not grade any contest until it's been over 24 hours, then fine, or if there was an official inquiry listed as soon as the clock ran out. But once you grade it and tell someone they've won, no way they should backtrack.

[Shark79]

All ball.

[slacker00]

The favorite always gets the calls in basketball.

[Shark79]

Question is if they paid those who took Texas AM +7 2nd hlf?

[rm18]

Im sure everybody was on UCLA 2nd half, and that's why the books decided to do this. This is ridic

not just that, but if people had A@M they had them +7.5 or possibly 8

[diogee]

Zbar had A&M +7 and was pissed at the push so I wonder if they have graded it as a winner for him instead.

[frostno98]

It wasn't like sloan was going to make both of his free throws in front of a hostile Ucla crowd right, then again we will never know.

[Shark79]

Zbar had A&M +7 and was pissed at the push so I wonder if they have graded it as a winner for him instead.

He should get the win

[Scorpion]

UCLA made a dunk at the end of the game that resulted in a push for UCLA -7 for the 2nd half. The dunk was clearly after time expired and they changed the score after the game so some wagers were re-graded.

OK
GOT IT

[goldengoat]

ucla should have just clothes lined him

it would have been a no call

[Dark Horse]

As for books changing their grading, that's complete bullsh¡t. If it's their policy to not grade any contest until it's been over 24 hours, then fine, or if there was an official inquiry listed as soon as the clock ran out. But once you grade it and tell someone they've won, no way they should backtrack.

Willie, we agree!! *stunned*

And it's hard to believe that only the file clerk has spoken out against this move by the Greek.

C'mon SBR. Challenge the Greek on this!

[INVEGA MAN]

i GOT A&M +7.5

[donjuan]

So let's say it was a foul...

Sloan, a 67% FT shooter goes to the line. He has a 45% chance of making both free throws. But there was still time on the clock. If he makes both free throws, UCLA still scores >20% of the time. Say UCLA does not score. They still win the game ~60% in overtime. So that comes out to UCLA winning the game ~86% of the time even if it was a foul.

[WestsidePete]

So let's say it was a foul...

Sloan, a 67% FT shooter goes to the line. He has a 45% chance of making both free throws. But there was still time on the clock. If he makes both free throws, UCLA still scores >20% of the time. Say UCLA does not score. They still win the game ~60% in overtime. So that comes out to UCLA winning the game ~86% of the time even if it was a foul.

nicely said...

[WestsidePete]

As for the call, I'm an Aggie and thought it should've been a foul. But I do my best not to ever blame a loss/credit a win on the refs or umps. I learned a long time ago that worrying about that sh¡t just isn't healthy for me. A&M had other opportunities and shouldn't have put themselves in a position to let the refs decide it like that.

As for books changing their grading, that's complete bullsh¡t. If it's their policy to not grade any contest until it's been over 24 hours, then fine, or if there was an official inquiry listed as soon as the clock ran out. But once you grade it and tell someone they've won, no way they should backtrack.

So that means losing wagers will now be graded as winners and people paid...right??

[NEP Dynasty]

So let's say it was a foul...

Sloan, a 67% FT shooter goes to the line. He has a 45% chance of making both free throws. But there was still time on the clock. If he makes both free throws, UCLA still scores >20% of the time. Say UCLA does not score. They still win the game ~60% in overtime. So that comes out to UCLA winning the game ~86% of the time even if it was a foul.

Are you serious? Who gives a f\*\*k what the percentages are. It's sports, anything can happen. The fact that A&M got robbed of the chance to even shoot free throws is the real problem, whatever your "percentages" say, theres still a shot he makes both of those free throws and the game goes to overtime.

Some of us like to watch sports for the competition and the excitement, and the chance that Sloan would have had to step up in a pressure spot and hit both of those FT's. Thats what makes sports great. f\*\*k the percentages, why even watch the games if everything worked out how the percentages said they should?

[rm18]

86% is the same chance they had before the game started, like has been said why even play the games.

[donjuan]

if %'s ruled all why would they need to play the games.

Anything happends tourney time.

I'm saying it hardly gifted UCLA the game. It's not like it was a no-call in a similar situation where ATM was down 1 instead where the percentages are much different.

Are you serious? Who gives a f\*\*k what the percentages are. It's sports, anything can happen. The fact that A&M got robbed of the chance to even shoot free throws is the real problem, whatever your "percentages" say, theres still a shot he makes both of those free throws and the game goes to overtime.

Some of us like to watch sports for the competition and the excitement, and the chance that Sloan would have had to step up in a pressure spot and hit both of those FT's. Thats what makes sports great. f\*\*k the percentages, why even watch the games if everything worked out how the percentages said they should?

Games do turn out how the percentages "say" they do, e.g. a team with a 10% chance to win wins approximately 10% of the time.