[diogee]

Official score change on the next day
http://forum.sbrforum.com/ncaa-baske...re-change.html
2 others on that topic.

[Thor4140]

Anyone see that instead of winning by four they won by two which means the second half bets were taken away from people's accounts. Which means I had $300 deducted from my account today. Unreal. BS to me. What do you guys think? I had -7 Ucla 2nd half. Anyone else have that problem.

Since i had Texas AM in a reverse with Mich state both in second half and they have me at a push/win, shouldn't i win since they took your money? I talk to the book and after three languages they came to the conclusion that i don't know the difference between half time lines and game lines. LMFAO i just went to get the receipts to show you guys i wasn't lying and they gave me the win. I was ready to concede to those monkeys because it was so frustrating trying to get my point across.

[Dark Horse]

I will not play at the Greek again (my book has not changed the 2H wager). It is important to know that graded wagers stand.

Don't count on SBR support for this one. This is one of the 'protected' books.

[Dark Horse]

UCLA was a big favorite and behind at the half. Not hard to guess where the majority of the 2H action would be. Which means that, by canceling the push the next day, the Greek paid itself a potentially huge bonus. March Madness is big money, and UCLA could have drawn significant action.

Somewhat surprised that SBR hasn't voiced an opinion. Can we not expect the highest of standards from an A+ book?

If this wager has been changed across the board, forget it. But if the Greek took matters into its own hands, in a way that best served its own purpose, isn't that questionable at best?

[thezbar]

The officials at the game blew it by not reviewing the play at that time. I had A+M plus the points on a half time bet, so I am on the other side of the coin. The basket was clearly after the buzzer.I'm not sure what the off shore rules are with regards to this?

[Dark Horse]

You know, the officials blow many calls during a game. Just because they blow one at the end of a game, that doesn't mean we can suddenly debate it for a day, and then regrade wagers accordingly. The game is over, the score is on the board, the tickets are graded, and everybody moves on.

(This is the second time within a year that such an issue comes up; the other a NFL field goal that was reviewed at the end of the game, -even though it is non-reviewable!- with the teams already in the locker room.)

[thezbar]

In Vegas you run to the window and cash the ticket. Off shore is a different story. I'm sure this isn't the first time in gaming history a final score has changed the following day.

[Willie Bee]

It's a massive conspiracy, guys. Don't trust anybody in this matter.

[thezbar]

I wonder what the local bookies take on all of this is? From a customer service point of view it would be good marketing to push the UCLA wager, but the A+M side would still want to get paid.
Most likely there will be some discussion of this on the Vegas Radio shows today.

[jjgold]

Whatever official score was is how game should be graded period, even if changed next day.

[HedgeHog]

I got screwed on this too. At ABC, where ties win on teasers, I had a UCLA -4/ Louis -1 teaser for $65/$50. Yesterday afternoon I leave for an Easter Dinner gathering "knowing" I won the first part of my play. I then see Louisville roll easily for a $50 winner--only to come back to find the ticket graded as a $65 loss---a $115 swing.

I agree with DH--get it right by game's end, not 24 hours later. This is wrong!!!

[rake922]

So if you bet on Texas A&M did you receive money you thought was lost?

Or they kept that also...

[HedgeHog]

So if you bet on Texas A&M did you receive money you thought was lost?

Or they kept that also...

No, they would get a win. My argument, and others, is that changing a final score the next day is wrong.

[rake922]

No, they would get a win. My argument, and others, is that changing a final score the next day is wrong.

So the peole that took Texas A&M +7 would have been thrilled?

[babaoriley]

Interesting that my UCLA -3 tease (7 pointer) at Bet Jam is still considered a "win", considering it's a Greek subsidiary and whatnot. I just looked at it, and it's labeled a "win" (though it was part of a losing wager thanks to K.St. not covering 11.5 so maybe BetJam only looked at bets that were won).

[Dark Horse]

A push where I played it. My only March Madness wager. I don't play college. lol

[SBR_John]

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No, they would get a win. My argument, and others, is that changing a final score the next day is wrong.

Actually it wasn't changed the next day. If you rewind the game you will see the basket was waived off on the court by the ref, clearly waived off. The media simply reported the game score incorrectly.

[HedgeHog]

If this issue is not listed in a Book's rules, will SBR look into this as a legit complaint if one's bet was reversed.

John, we posted at the exact same time. I don't doubt the call, but why did it take a day to correct.

[SBR_John]

Hedge, I dont know but just off the top of my head I think those that needed a two point game have a stronger case. If I had A+M +3 and it was graded a loser I would be pissed.

Anyone that wants SBR to look into their case can write Bill.

[Shark79]

Hedge, I dont know but just off the top of my head I think those that needed a two point game have a stronger case. If I had A+M +3 and it was graded a loser I would be pissed.

Anyone that wants SBR to look into their case can write Bill.

Exactly my point ... now most of us realized this cause we are at forums almost 24/7 ... but those that yet are not aware that the score changed and had A+M and covered should suck ... that is a win/win for the books ... pretty much a low blow IMO

[yanksrule80]

I am very surprized they did not review it because CBS showed the replay that it went down late but the score still didnt change. Then they changed it before going to the post game show and on the post game show changed it back to it counting. CBS/the Officials screwed this one up.

[HedgeHog]

I didn't see the ending; I just got the final the next day. And as of yesterday afternoon the first part of my teaser (UCLA) was still a win. I'm curious as to how the Vegas Books dealt with this mess--which score are they treating as official? Did they pay out on the original "official" score? Absent any written rule to the contrary, the offshore Books should be following Vegas rules on this one.

[SBR_John]

Yea this is a real tough one.

Who makes the score official? The TV station that broadcasts the game?

I understand the arguement for Vegas rules, which should be the same for players who deposit with sportsbooks and bet. For credit players its a 2 point win and for post up players its a 4 point win. Not saying thats right but its consistant. I would still be very upset if I lost a bet because a shot after the buzzer, that was clearly waived off by the ref, was allowed to count. It may be consistant but it sure aint fair.

[yanksrule80]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080323/...as_a_m_ucla_13


Even yahoo reported it as up 4 like everywhere else I am trying to find a link that is relivent to betting and see what it says