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Old 03-21-2008, 11:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Can you make a list of books for arbs?

thinking about doing some small time arbs for fun. here is the list i come up so far

matchbook
nine
greek
5dimes
jazz

also thinking about opening accounts at these books, but it'll take some effort
pinnacle
ladbrokes (i heard this book limit)
betfair

any recommendations?
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Betfair and Pinnacle are a must
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Betfair and Pinnacle are a must
are you saying all i need is betfair and pinnacle?

isn't matchbook similar to betfair? or arbs mainly do tennis, soccer, and boxing?
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Do you really think anybody is going to answer this with useful advice?
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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thinking about doing some small time arbs for fun. here is the list i come up so far

matchbook
nine
greek
5dimes
jazz

also thinking about opening accounts at these books, but it'll take some effort
pinnacle
ladbrokes (i heard this book limit)
betfair

any recommendations?
Shams Wolf showed me how to use Pinnacle against a square book to find arbs and then bet the square side of the arb at the square book. You don't even need an account at Pinnacle, you can get Pinnacle's odds without logging in to their site. I'm not recommending this and I'm not saying I did this but you can open an account at Pinnacle if you aren't planning on ever funding it, for the sole purpose of using their odds screens. Just put in a non-US address in the sign up screen. They don't verify it unless you ask for a payout, which you won't be because you don't plan on funding the account.

There are plenty of square books out there.
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Would you share your experience with us?
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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this will be easier if you're in UK. get couple of locals and scalp their lines. i think i'll start with the euro books first. hope i won't get limited within a week.
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Don't bother with Nine. They don't play nicely with pros.
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Don't bother with Nine. They don't play nicely with pros.
thanks for the headup, justin. do they limit pros or they just give out double lines? or do they cancel wagers?
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Don't bother with Nine. They don't play nicely with pros.
Very true indeed Justin. In fact that extends throughout the whole entire Stockdale Investment Ltd family of books, which includes VIP, Nine, and Gameday.

Their lines are always like 4 to 5 minutes behind most other quality books, and they will indeed boot you in a heartbeat if they even think you are attempting to Arb there.
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Very true indeed Justin. In fact that extends throughout the whole entire Stockdale Investment Ltd family of books, which includes VIP, Nine, and Gameday.

Their lines are always like 4 to 5 minutes behind most other quality books, and they will indeed boot you in a heartbeat if they even think you are attempting to Arb there.
ok, at least i'll get my money back. i'll see how long i can last there. i probably bet too little for them to notice me

thanks dan.
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Shams Wolf showed me how to use Pinnacle against a square book to find arbs and then bet the square side of the arb at the square book. You don't even need an account at Pinnacle, you can get Pinnacle's odds without logging in to their site. I'm not recommending this and I'm not saying I did this but you can open an account at Pinnacle if you aren't planning on ever funding it, for the sole purpose of using their odds screens. Just put in a non-US address in the sign up screen. They don't verify it unless you ask for a payout, which you won't be because you don't plan on funding the account.
While this is a decent enough strategy, for what is presumably a small bankroll based on the OP it is usually going to be better to arb most or all of the bet.
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
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ok, at least i'll get my money back. i'll see how long i can last there. i probably bet too little for them to notice me

thanks dan.
Your funds are secure IMO sir, but if your not beating the slow moving lines they offer. Then you need to practice your Arb'ing skills.
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While you can Arb the A books it's always better to find a C book or D book to arb against. They move their lines slowly, are slow to payout but offer bigger bonus's which helps the bottom line. No one here will really tell you to fund which books but look for added value such as points for every bet which you can trade in for cash or free plays.
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Your funds are secure IMO sir, but if your not beating the slow moving lines they offer. Then you need to practice your Arb'ing skills.
yes sir. i'll get right on that. it would be nice if i can create a ARB syndicate to have accounts in all of the books under various names. i'll call it Red_Sux Arb and Bonus Whore LLC.
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While you can Arb the A books it's always better to find a C book or D book to arb against. They move their lines slowly, are slow to payout but offer bigger bonus's which helps the bottom line. No one here will really tell you to fund which books but look for added value such as points for every bet which you can trade in for cash or free plays.
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