[Bill Dozer]

Customer Service




Lines & Wagering

[BAUS]

You must be joking Bill. You've had your laugh, now show us the real photos.

BAUS

[tacomax]

I'm sure that one of the resident forum shills now has them as a forum sponsor and will be here soon to tell us what a fantastic operation they are.

Quality photos, Bill.

[raiders72001]

I'm shocked that pictures are being taken of another TOW book. I've never seen pictures of anything except TOW books and the SBR office. Do other books exist?

[BigDaddy]

Is that thier customer service or do they have like 5 clerks? and whats with all these books showing pics of old looking computers? wheres the flat screen monitors? Betonstars computers looked like shit too

[tacomax]

You must have missed the Bodog thread for starters.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/4556-sbr-bodog-photo-shoot.html

Not a lot of difference between Bodog and No Juice I'm sure you'll agree.

[Dead Money]

Can I get a shot of the Ryder truch or U-haul parked outside???

Just kidding...I'm an ass.

D+ is like a C-...correct???

[BAUS]

Who is that CS rep and where can I meet her?

And why is Booker T working at Nojuice?

BAUS

[raiders72001]

SBR- Taking pictures is a great idea but can you show some more C and D rated books to the posters that aren't TOW books. This would give them a guage as to what these books look like.

[BAUS]

Raiders, are you saying all C and D books look like this?

BAUS

[raiders72001]

A lot of books do.

[raiders72001]

Baus- Blue Grass may be worse. 5Dimes and Oasis similar but bigger. Pinnacle and BetJam nothing like you would imagine.

[SBR_John]

Can I get a shot of the Ryder truch or U-haul parked outside???

[JoshW]

Raiders, but no way 5dimes or Oasis looks like that. Those are books with lots of clerks and big volume. The number of line guys a 5Dimes outnumbers that.

[JoshW]

Honestly this thread scared me straight. :| :P Am making some withdrawals tomorrow.

[BAUS]

Yeah, 5dimes must have more clerks than that. They need one dedicated clerk just move the lines on me when I try to make a bet.

Oasis I could see being something like this. They are a low-brow shop.

I have no experience with Bluegrass. What are you saying Pinnacle looks like? You've been there?

BAUS

[raiders72001]

Lakerfan- Many books are bigger but look exactly the same. SBR will not publish those pics but they will do that to TOW books. How about a picture of 5Dimes that's an A rated book. I love 5Dimes but I think it couldn't be more obvious what SBR is doing.

They are hurting NoJuice and there will be many withdrawals becasue of this picture. These pictures will circulate all over the web. Let's get more pictures instead of just picking on the books that SBR would like to see go under.

[raiders72001]

SBR- If I pick out 10 books in CR will you take pictures and report back and post them here?

[raiders72001]

Does anyone else like the idea of seeing 10 books or do you like SBR selectively posting pictures for their cause? Let's see many more books.

[docdekay]

I cant stop laughing and I'm honestly losing my mind looking at these pictures.

Fu*k the bodog pictures. Anyone with money can build a pool and hire some good looking broads with big to walk around.

I dont want to see pinnacle and bodog and olympic and BOS. I want to see more pictures from no juice and books of the same ilk. You couldnt stage this picture if you tried.

As somone who has money in this place I dont know whether to keep laughing or start crying LOL

[applepicks]

I've played at No Juice for a little while now and have had a great expierence there. But with that said, my home office may have more equipment and capabilties then the above pictures. I have to agree with Raiders on this one, these could be very damaging pictures. APPLE

[raiders72001]

Doc- I agree but could it be more obvious what point SBR is making?

[raiders72001]

This is the irresponsible stuff that I'm talking about with SBR. Once again instead of showing both sides of the story they show their side. We need comparisons to make a judgment.

[JoshW]

I don't know the circumstances of SBR getting these photos, but I wouldn't be surprised if No Juice consented. Your argument about 5Dimes being small is just wrong, none of the A books are. Obviously books that are mainly internet like WSEX are much smaller, they admit that.

And posters and players love to see the books operations, so I have no doubt this type of thing will continue with the books that allow it.

I think you are right that this photo looks bad for them. I have been laughing with some other posters on IM for the past half hour, but it is accuarate photo. Sometimes reality is that crazy. Granted is off season and new book. And payment history means more than how big the office is.

[raiders72001]

I'm really not trying to pick on SBR. SBR is the #1 place to go to help players. With that said I'm still going to call out the BS.

[raiders72001]

Lakerfan- I never said 5Dimes was small. I said it's a bigger version of NoJuice. It would scare the hell out of posters if they see pictures.

[raiders72001]

Lakerfan- Do you think it by chance that SBR just happened to photo a TOW book that looked bad astatically?

[JoshW]

Maybe I am nieve, but dozen clerks, couple managers in shit room doesn't bother me. Cascade back in the day looked like that and they took huge bets and managed to pay. These photos are what they are. Bodog spends money on image stuff, but not so much that I am scared they are burning through money. NoJuice in 4 people in room smaller than my office. Is what it is. I grant you forum owners, yourself included now, tend to spin truth at times and highlight or in some cases suppress info they don't like. Oh, I guess that is people in general. I tend to like those that do less spinning, and I don't consider this out of line at all.

[Bill Dozer]

owners in office hallway

[docdekay]

Bill,

Can you get the guy who took these pictures to get some of the marker board?
How about closets? Do they have closets there because I see everyone has their coats slung over the back of their chairs.

I would love to get another perspective on this place.

[Dead Money]

I think some people in here have a vested intrest in this place cause they seem quite offended.

[Mudcat]

Originally Posted by raiders72001

Lakerfan- Do you think it by chance that SBR just happened to photo a TOW book that looked bad astatically?

I think that was the fourth time Raiders referred to them as a TOW book without mentioning that they also have a banner on his site. It's probably just an oversight. I'm sure he's not trying to create an illusion that he's an objective third party (when he's actually getting paid by them). I'm sure his interest in this thread is only about defending TOW.



In any case, I am still much more worried about the NoJuiceSports business model than these pics.

[BAUS]

Originally Posted by Mudcat

In any case, I am still much more worried about the NoJuiceSports business model than these pics.

I agree. Not sustainable.

BAUS

[tacomax]

Originally Posted by Dead Money

I think some people in here have a vested intrest in this place cause they seem quite offended.

You reckon? Are you saying that raiders is shilling for NoJuice because he's getting paid by them. Like he shills for BetRoyal where he also collects a paycheck?

Wow - that would be really hypocritical, saying that SBR have some kind of underlying agenda. Especially coming from the same person to start a flat-out-lie "BetonStars first book down after Super Bowl" thread at EOG. Yes, the same BetOnStars who refused to take an advertising spot on his site.

Please tell me this isn't true.

[magnavox]

5dimes pictures below. Judge for yourself.