[BAUS]

Flopper, I am in the exact same boat.

I lost many dimes to PTS, asked Roberto for help, he came through with nothing, (although he was able to help some players and he has helped me before in other matters).

BAUS

[SBR_John]

Is that the book Raiders was touting as safe and a great book? I'm sure he will come through, he says he backs his shill jobs.

[BAUS]

Of course I'm still looking for help. Bailouts are tough to come by these days.

Yes John, Raiders heavily touted this book.

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[bigboydan]

sorry to hear about your loss FlopTurnRiver

i have been trying to assist baus with a bailout offer for quite some time now, and no luck as of yet.

[raiders72001]

This was aggravating since he had asked for my promise to only use him as a source of help (as it appears he and a poster on offshoregamblersdigest were both trying to help and were exchanging heated words) and I did say I wanted his representation.

Yes, Roberto and I did go at it on this case.



Flop- I doubt I can do anything now and even if I can it wouldn't be the same as the earlier deals requiring no more funds to be posted up. I would think you would have to post up at least 100% or more with a high rollover.

If you still want me to try then PM me.

Baus- (Judges are instructed to subtract 1 point for low blow - keep them punches up now).

[SBR_John]

See Raiders this is what I'm talking about. Do you honestly think if you had been recommending Pinnacle and CRIS you would hear any of this?

If you recommend the best books folks will know that you care and easily accept your future advice. If you lead them intentionally to slaughter or even into the shadows they will not trust you.

[raiders72001]

John- If guys like you would stop the false claims and smear campaigns against me I could help more guys with problems. I only can help with books that I recommend. I don't know why you guys want to hurt players and steer them away from getting helped.

I'm trying to help guys win. We put up picks and information such as steam plays and injuries. I then direct them to books that they can beat.

Other sites could care less if players win. Winning players takes money out of your pocket while it doesn't hurt me at all but you are the true player advocate. LOL

[raiders72001]

John- Take a look at your contests. SBR is huge and yet you give away a $100 contest. I'm small but give out $1000, $250 and some $100 contests. I'm giving back to the players and you're pocketing the money going to the Phillippenes, UK and Panama.

[BAUS]

LOL! I love the reputation comments Raiders is leaving for me.

"I wouldn't help you if you paid me a dime."

ROTFLMFAO!!!

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[SBR_John]

Raiders, name one false complaint I have created against royal.... just one.. I'll wait.

[raiders72001]

John- Not Royal but over and over again you have called me a scammer when you know that not to be true.

So where are you going for the next vacation?

[SBR_John]

Oh ok. I'm actually not sure if you are a scammer or just like to live dangerously or maybe just let greed affect your business judgement. I called you a scammer on the RichCoast deal because you were trying to decieve posters here. So maybe you are just a low level scammer I dont know.

I do know one thing, if you shill scummy books players will associate you as a scammer and it wont matter what I say or think.

Bottomline its not what I call you or anyone else, its the the books you tout that define who you are.

[raiders72001]

Oh ok. I'm actually not sure if you are a scammer or just like to live dangerously or maybe just let greed affect your business judgement.

[Catsfan]

[QUOTE=FlopTurnRiver]Hey everyone. I sent the following email to Bill and he said it would be a good idea to post on this forum. If anyone has any ideas for me please let me know.

Hello. I am sending you an email hoping you might be able to steer me in the right way. I am a former account holder of playthescore and was stuck with a $3423 balance when they went under.



I was in contact with Roberto from the offshore wire, who assured me my case would be taken care of. He was able to arrange bailouts for some players, but kept on saying that my case was still in the works. This was aggravating since he had asked for my promise to only use him as a source of help (as it appears he and a poster on offshoregamblersdigest were both trying to help and were exchanging heated words) and I did say I wanted his representation. It looks as though I would have been best to go another route since he has not come up with anything. The one "bailout offer" was a 1% cashback on all wagers made with a new account at richcoast sports up until I had received my PTS balance amount. This was an absurd offer as it was purely a losing proposition. I would have had to make over $300,000 in wagers. I am guessing this was simply a way to get an advertiser a new customer and not a genuine effort to help.



At this point Roberto is not even returning my emails. I see he has helped a lot of players before but I don't hall in that category unfortunately. I have been very patient but had to contact someone else in the hopes to find help. At this point I would be thrilled to find some type of bailout offer. A match offer with a heavy rollover would be fine with me.



If there is anything you can do to help I would be forever thankful. Could you kindly respond with any thoughts or advice you might have.[/QU





FlopTurnRiver
I have one suggestion. Call Anthony at BookTheBet. He offered me a bail out when CRIS refused to pay me $939 that I won. I had to make a matching deposit and agree to a 9 time roll over. I ended up losing all of my money before the roll over was met. I know of a couple of other people that did the same thing as I did. One lost his money before making a pay out and the other was paid. I know BookTheBet is new and small so it is totally up to you if you feel like taking a chance. I am just sharing my experience. I read somewhere else that you should see if you could get two or three books to bail you out. This way tou would only have to put a third of your money in any one book. This may be easier said than done. I wish you the best.

[BAUS]

Catsfan, you might have good intentions with your post, but it is bad advice.

If Flop were to send $3423 to Bootkthebet for a 100% bailout, 9x roll, it isn't unlikely that he could end up with a balance of 20-30k by the time he has finished meeting roll. This is hardly the size of balance you want at a book that takes about 25 bets per day.

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[raiders72001]

It's not only Valentine's Day but it's Bizarro Day. Baus made a good post.

[Catsfan]

Catsfan, you might have good intentions with your post, but it is bad advice.

If Flop were to send $3423 to Bootkthebet for a 100% bailout, 9x roll, it isn't unlikely that he could end up with a balance of 20-30k by the time he has finished meeting roll. This is hardly the size of balance you want at a book that takes about 25 bets per day.

BAUS

Baus
Point well taken.

[Chuck Sims]

"Is that the book Raiders was touting as safe and a great book? I'm sure he will come through, he says he backs his shill jobs."

Yes. The guy has no shame.

And when BetRoyal goes up if not bailed out, raiders72001 will no doubt blame you for its demise for flaming the book on the forums.

[raiders72001]

Chuck- You've won Bafoon of the posting boards five years in a row and running. You haven't gotten one thing right yet and I don't see anything changing soon.