[Ganchrow]

I'm just going to predict that you receive some rather heated replies.

[diogee]

Ganchrow is correct...best off to live with your decision instead of trying to screw a book for your mistakes. Go to some G.A. meetings to help yourself.

[seaborneq]

Maybe I am missing something. Are you upset because a book gave you the privledge to play because of YOUR deception of pretending to be your mom? You are sick.

[seaborneq]

I am not a bad person... I am just inquiring...

It's just the fact that they told me I can never deposit ever again. Then they let me deposit using my moms name (even though i'm using my address, my CC, etc.)

This whole time while I was gambling I kept thinking that even if I win they wouldn't pay me because I said to never let me play again.

You are a crook too.

[Santo]

Similarities? ;-)

A compulsive gambler who squandered more than £2 million at the bookmakers lost again today after a High Court judge rejected his claim for compensation and damages from William Hill.

Mr Justice Briggs ruled that the bookmaker owed Graham Calvert no duty of care even though he had requested that they stop taking his money under their own self-exclusion policy.

The judge said that although William Hill had failed to take reasonable steps to exclude Mr Calvert from telephone gambling in line with their own guidelines, pathological gambling would still probably have led to his financial ruin, just over a longer period of time.

In a summary of his ruling, Mr Justice Briggs said: "William Hill's failure to take reasonable care to exclude him from telephone gambling... did not therefore cause Mr Calvert any measurable financial or other loss."

Mr Calvert, 28, sued William Hill for damages after losing his wife, health and livelihood to his gambling addiction.

Anneliese Day, representing Mr Calvert at the High Court, told the judge at a hearing last month that William Hill should be held liable for her client's financial plight because of its failure to operate its own policy.

She said Mr Calvert, a greyhound trainer from Houghton-le-Spring, Tyne and Wear, was hoping to establish in law for the first time that bookies do owe a duty of care in his circumstances.
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Miss Day said the scale of her client's gambling was "staggering".

At a previous hearing the court heard how Mr Calvert placed huge multiple bets in the space of a few hours and lost around £347,000 in one bet alone when he backed the US to win the 2006 Ryder Cup.

Mr Calvert, who ended up borrowing money to fund his habit, was described by Miss Day as an accomplished greyhound trainer who ran the family business from a farm in County Durham.

Before his gambling addiction took hold he was "comfortably well-off", although he had been involved in gambling for most of his life.

"The claimant's descent from betting being a hobby to betting being a disorder appears to have commenced when he began betting by telephone."

Miss Day said that Mr Calvert began "staking larger and larger sums of money with increasing frequency and decreasing regard for the consequences".

[Timetopay]

its bodogs fault. I would even try to do a charge back on the old transactions. Make them pay for thier mistakes

gl and welcome

[BigBollocks]

Bodog are scum and Calvin Ayre has screwed people since the age of time. Believe me when I tell you that $4K isn't even a drop in the bucket compared to the amounts he's swindled from his time in Canada up until now.

I'm 99.99999999% of the time the first person to side with the book and fight theft, but considering the facts, and most importantly who you're dealing with, I have no problems whatsoever with you doing a chargeback Nate. After you do the chargeback, you and your mother's name will almost certainly be blacklisted throughout most of the industry (which should be doing you a favor).

As a personal note, I've been around the casino/gaming industry my entire life, and have personally had three people commit suicide in the vicinity of me due to gambling (two in the same month in Vegas). You, my friend, are a compulsive gambler. It's not something that you'll ever just wash off, and every time you gamble you'll be in a worse situation than you are now. I'd suggest letting your family and friends know the depths of your problem, and enrolling in a G.A. (Gambler's Anonymous) program as soon as possible. PM me if you want to discuss further. Here's hoping you're able to salvage your life....

[datek23]

I would really appreciate any help/advice...

About 2 years I created a Bodog account. I had gambling problems, so after a few big losses, I told Bodog to never let me to make a deposit again. 2 months later I begged them to reopen my account and they did. After another $4000 loss, I threatened to do a chargeback. I never did request a chargeback, but they assured me I WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO PLAY ON BODOG AGAIN..

A couple months ago, I fell for there 110% bonus they were offering and created an account under my mom's name. I created the account under her name but I made the deposits through my ATM card... I have the same legal name, address, etc as I did 2 years ago (when they assured me I can never play again)...

I usually play blackjack... I deposited a total of about $12000 and am waiting for my payouts of 4000$ to come in.

Bodog has the name of my mom (Mrs.) on the account but yet I call in everytime and make the deposit and they never said anything... After a while, they just changed the name to Mr. Kathy *****.

I am just so fed up with this... I know I have a gambling problem, but I feel like they should have never given another account to someone w/ the same address using the same ATM card.

Does anyone have any opinions on whether or not I should do a chargeback? Will it affect my credit? My mom's credit? Should I wait until I get my $4000 in checks?
Please any help would be greatly appreciated.

I do seek therapists for my problem.. I signed myself out of all the local casinos so i can't go there anymore. Bodog shouldn't have ever even let me create another account under someone elses name..

You will be pushing your luck my friend. $4000 is when FBI and state police get involved. If they found that this amount was sent legally for a illegal matter and you are doing a charge back with nothing being stolen, you and your family will get in trouble. A charge back is used when someone steals your CC information without your knowledge for most cases. After the bank and CC companies investigate with the state police or FBI, you better have a good supply of K-Y Jelly. This is no laughing matter. You got a problem and just about forget about ever seeing that money again on the safe side. If you want to take your chances and risks and possibility of a investigation for wire and bank fraud, go right ahead. People who commit wire and bank fraud go to prison longer than killers. It is not worth the risk at getting burned for the rest of your life.

[datek23]

ya...like the FBI cares about some clown offshore that didnt get his money from booking someones bet here in the states

and after the law being passed.....whoever is doing the chargeback could say A NUMBER of things peratining to the reason for the chargeback...you make it seem like our government cares about a book collecting money tax free from people here in the United States....L-M-F-A-O

lets get real here people......

I work with Charge Backs everyday for my business. ************ companies depending on what they investigate and the amount will send the info to the district attorney to look into this matter. CC companies are a bitch to deal with, everything is document and everything is look into. CC companies and banks do not want to return your money. Down the road it will come back to haunt you. I deal with this everyday.

Go ahead and do a charge back. I been in this situation before and was tempted to do the same thing until my friend got busted for mail fraud. Not a laughing matter.

[datek23]

^^I see ur point....anyhow

Most likely nothing would hapens if he does it, but some people get unlikely breaks.

Actually this situation happen today.

I sold 2 items for $115 a piece to this person for about $225. I sent them items out in Janunary 2008. I sent them out with delivery confirmation and thank god I did. Couple days ago I got a chargeback for almost $230 dollars, telling me the person never received them. I looked for my deliver confirmation slips and guess what they the items where delivery and receive by this person attempted to do a chargeback. I wrote to the company and CC company with proof these items where received. I will let the CC companies and authorities deal with this matter since I scanned my receipts and delivery confirmation tracking slips and uploaded them to the proper parties wanting this information. I learned my lesson always keep your receipts with tracking information.

Now can see you see how easy it is to get trouble especially if you have proof and confirmation of items.This will get even worse if they plan to investigate the matter fully against the person who attempted to do a chargeback. Not worth the risk.

[datek23]

I used to be a Waiter/Server at Olive Garden. This has happened to someone I know. Sometimes the Customer will called saying he was overcharged. After the Manager looked into the matter they where overcharged by a couple dollars maybe by accident or purposely. The server got a warning about it after getting written up and almost fired for a couple dollars. Then it happened again, a customer complain to about being overcharged by $1 dollar. They fired this person. I was like you got to be kidding. This person was cool as all hell. But it didn't stop there, other servers got fired for the same reason down the road. The manager at the store keep all records for several months of CC slips. They can see if the server added extra money to his tip total by looking at the pen and handwriting. Just wanted to add some experiences with chargebacks with people I know and myself. Most people do not deal with chargebacks in our everyday world. But as a former server and current busienssman, Chargebacks are real and CC companies will ask for alot of information to look into the matter. Whenever I get a chargeback dispute, I am like what did I do this time. I always think I messed up until I look for my records and signature confirmation records.

Just a nice real story to tell people about.

naw...I feel ya....nobody wants to be 'investigated'

money is nothing....peace of mind is priceless

[tony73]

I smoked for 18 years and managed to quit.U can quit betting too.Seak some help.Its not easy,but its worth it.

[Bill Dozer]

Nate,

Shoot us an email at help@sportsbookreview.com or call 830-515-4122. We can put you in touch with folks who can help you with your addiction.

[Justin7]

Nate,

Shoot us an email at help@sportsbookreview.com or call 830-515-4122. We can put you in touch with folks who can help you with your addiction.

Nate,

Listen to Bill. 4k/12k is trivial compared to ignoring the underlying problem. Even if you get the money back, you'll lose it quick enough until you get help.

If you don't call SBR, do a google search for "gambler's anonymous" + your city.

[datek23]

ya...like the FBI cares about some clown offshore that didnt get his money from booking someones bet here in the states

and after the law being passed.....whoever is doing the chargeback could say A NUMBER of things peratining to the reason for the chargeback...you make it seem like our government cares about a book collecting money tax free from people here in the United States....L-M-F-A-O

lets get real here people......

$4000 might get forgotten by the FBI by not the State Police. State Police will probably looked into $4000 dispute. After my server/Waiter job I got a job as a Limo driver. There was two chargeback of over $1,000 each time in two weeks. So as I was ready to go pick the Limo, guess who I saw park in the front. The State Police. I guess what happened someone CC was stolen and the crooks rented a limo two times in a month time. Plus the Limo drivers money and GPS was stolen by someone of their crooks group when the driver went to the bathroom. So The Limo driver called the police, and his luck, it was the State Police area. If he had been across the street it would have been local police and this case would have been buried. However State Police do not play these games like the local police. My limo friends was lucky he got the state police. Within one week, everyone in that limo was rounding up and went to a awaiting court for fraud.

See what I mean, My friend got a break? Like being at the right moment and getting the right type of police force. You might be able to get away with a $4000 chargeback, and maybe several times with nothing happening.

But for me it Not worth the risk.

[TexansFan]

How dare Bodog tempt you with gambling. Who do they think they are? People in society today cannot accept personal responsibility anymore. It's always someone else's fault when something bad happens.

Pay your debts and quit blaming others for your own stupidity.

[rake922]

I dont believe this..therefore....

natethegreat920=tacomax or jjgold

[2Pac]

Do the chargeback.

Gambling places are supposed to cut you off permanently for any admittance of a gambling problem.

If you would have lost that $12000 deposit, they would keep it, but if you would have won, they would cancel your winnings and refund the $.


Do the chargeback, Bodog is gay as ****.

[purecarnagge]

get your money. ask them to close the account after funds have cleared.

stop playing at bodog... play with virtual money or dont play at all...

If you really want to try to be gay issue the chargeback for funds... I mean the book paid you... if the book pays you leave it be.

[Poker_Beast]

Quit fucing gambling!!!!!

[wtt0315]

i have been there before and almost did a chargeback but decided against it. I did iinquire about it since the poker sight account was in my my name, and it was a DC through with my wifes name so i thought i could just say that she didnt authorize the charges. We inquired at the bank and was told we could do it but she would have to press charges against me, this is the only way they would do a chargeback. She didnt want to do this but i had already decided to eat the money since i did do it. Heres my advice. If you are starving and you have no money for rent,food,utilities then yes do it. You have to live man, and without those you cant. If you can possibly make it any way. i mean if your CC bills are late 2 months or so or your other bills are late that isnt important enough to do it, you should eat it. The amount of damage i did to our checking account screwed me for 2 months, But i decided to call our creditors and work out payment plans and so be it. I was negative in my account and got hit with a lot of charges, but i am glad i didnt do the chargeback. i knew what i did was wrong and i had to pay a price and i did. It was the best thing to happen to me. i got myself in line after that and after seeing my wifes face upset that was better then any GA meeting. I and her sit down after that and we decided on a budget. She allowed me a certain amount every month to gamble with and i have never went above that now. You have to face the problem and i wouldnt be telling you that if i havent gone through it.You have already admitted to the problem and that is the first step. This is worse then having a drinking addication because you can lose everything. My advice again is if you can make it then don't do it, but if you are starving and need money then yes you have to do whats best for you and your family. Get some help and if you need anything you can pm me. A lot of people have gone through this you are not the only one. good luck to you.

[Red_Sux]

bodog has my checking accoutn info, so i am not going to do a chargeback.