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Old 08-27-10, 10:42 PM   #1
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It seems to be getting to the stage where EVERYONE expects a tip, you can see it in their face if you don't tip. I'm from Australia where we don't tip anyone for anything because the minimal wage is much higher.

A friend told me that they were asked for a tip by movers after paying 2 of them $270 for a 3 hour job and they only moved a block away. He told them no. I'm not tipping, the movers got pissed off and started walking out but his mother in law stopped them and gave them $50 each.

The other day I was moving, another short move in the same suburb. They had to go up 2 flights of stairs so it was hard work for them but they weren't very careful and scratched up a couple of pieces of my furniture. I considered not tipping at all but they looked exhausted by the end so I decided to tip. There were 3 of them and I gave them $30 each. The boss seemed happy but one of the Mexican workers scrunched his face up in disgust like I just took a dump on his foot.

Tomorrow I'm hiring a house cleaner and a carpet cleaner to clean my previous apartment to help insure I get my $2000 security deposit back (I had to pay so much because I had no credit in this country when I rented it). How much will these fukks expect to be tipped? Personally I don't want to tip them at all. They are earning good rates per hour unless their bosses skimp on them, and if that's the case they should take it up with them.

How will they react if I don't tip? Have you every been confronted for not tipping or not tipping enough?

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Old 08-27-10, 10:48 PM   #2
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This bugs me too it is not my fault that these people do not negotiate higher pay with their employers. What really burns me up is when you go to a restraint and pick your food up you are still expected to tip even though you are not being waited on or when I have to tip a bartender for getting a beer out of a cooler and twisting the top off for me how about I twist the cap off myself???
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Old 08-27-10, 10:54 PM   #3
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in eu we dont tip.if your boss dont pay you enough then quit.
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Old 08-27-10, 11:08 PM   #4
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This bugs me too it is not my fault that these people do not negotiate higher pay with their employers. What really burns me up is when you go to a restraint and pick your food up you are still expected to tip even though you are not being waited on or when I have to tip a bartender for getting a beer out of a cooler and twisting the top off for me how about I twist the cap off myself???
in a nice joint i do a dollar each beer cause i want her to stay on me if the place is packed and take care of me.. in a regular old bar i do like 1 $ for every two beers
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Old 08-27-10, 11:10 PM   #5
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In CR we don't tip as well, why? because all bills carries a 10% service fee
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Old 08-27-10, 11:13 PM   #6
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Im from Australia too, when i travelled the states for 6 months i found 10% was fair and if the group was over 8 i think 15-20%.

Of course travelling we had a few tightasses that wouldnt put in anymore then they had to.

On another note, if you do not tip and you DO NOT plan to use their services again, then what are they going to do.

The mexican worked probably earns Tips only for the removalist.

I heard a story bout 2 older woman 40+ stayed at a hotel, when they were down for breakfast they never tipped, the next day no one would serve them.
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Old 08-27-10, 11:14 PM   #7
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cheap asses go out to eat and wont even leave a dollar


or some guy goes on a craps roll and makes you a good amount but dont even throw over a $5 chip

save every dollar they have for their next bet
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Old 08-27-10, 11:57 PM   #8
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Old 08-28-10, 12:26 AM   #9
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I tip waitresses & bartenders, because they make less than minimum wage, they basically work for tips & they work hard. I usually dont tip anyone who is paid a fukin hourly or salary wage.
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Old 08-28-10, 12:35 AM   #10
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fifty dollars to some movers? no fukin way
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Old 08-28-10, 12:37 AM   #11
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I help friends move all the time & dont get paid, better yet tipped
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Old 08-28-10, 12:45 AM   #12
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Were I live we dont give allot of tips either. most bills have 10-15% service charge, I might add a few 10s extra if the service was perfect(or just leave them with the spare change..). tipping bartenders waitresses and dealers are normal for me.
I don't know what I find more shocking, people expecting to get a tip or tipping 100 on movers..
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Old 08-28-10, 12:52 AM   #13
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I never tip anyone.....no way...no how......nada....ziltch.......Nothing... ..


Its part of my Anglo-Saxon Heritage..........
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Old 08-28-10, 01:17 AM   #14
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It's does seem a bit much now, even the local mexican restaurant that i use the drive through on has a tip cup, as well as starbucks when i went to starbucks, i mean i just overpaid for a coffee and you expect a tip. unreal.
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Old 08-28-10, 01:28 AM   #15
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You shouldn't expect a tip. A tip is to be given on great service, nothing else. Thats how it should be.
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Tip for beer and great waitress
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Old 08-28-10, 03:34 AM   #17
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I tip waitresses & bartenders, because they make less than minimum wage, they basically work for tips & they work hard. I usually dont tip anyone who is paid a fukin hourly or salary wage.
i agree with your post about who to tip.the whole damn world wants a f ing tip,and its getting on my nerves.
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Old 08-28-10, 03:52 AM   #18
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Sign me up for the "sick of the tipping" crowd. It's getting crazy now, seems like I got my hand in my pocket everytime I leave the house now.
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Old 08-28-10, 04:04 AM   #19
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i agree. tips shouldn't be expected for any profession and that should clear things up. restaraunts should just charge 15% more for the food and drinks and then they can pay their employees better. I guess the case against that is your service will be more poor, but you can always go to another restaraunt/bar instead then. ithink the difference would be negligible.

Btw do you tip a tow truck? I didn't tip the guy, he made $80 dollars for like a 5-10 minute trip. (altho maybe it wasn't his truck and thus he didn't actually make the $80)
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Tipping is an incentive to bust your a-s for your customer. It works.

Compare restaurant service in Manhattan to any city in Europe. You can be in and out quickly with a quality meal and no bs (90% of places). Over there you'll sit for 3 hours waiting for mediocre food and tiny portions from a friendly but lazy waitress.

Same with cabs, delivery people, strippers, etc... My Chinese delivery guy gets here 10 minutes after I call because he knows he'll get a few bucks.

... however, the mover scenario sounds weird. You did the right thing. Fck um.
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i dont tip...i dont wanna dive into my beer money by tipping...
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i agree. tips shouldn't be expected for any profession and that should clear things up. restaraunts should just charge 15% more for the food and drinks and then they can pay their employees better. I guess the case against that is your service will be more poor, but you can always go to another restaraunt/bar instead then. ithink the difference would be negligible. Btw do you tip a tow truck? I didn't tip the guy, he made $80 dollars for like a 5-10 minute trip. (altho maybe it wasn't his truck and thus he didn't actually make the $80)
OmgUrMom, you may want to check your car insurance, or break off a call, I have towing and glass coverage so with the towing i just fax the receipt and then i get a check in about 10 days.
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Old 08-28-10, 06:44 AM   #23
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Tipping is important. I love tipping. I love the smile in her/his face when you tip. Don't forget to tip waitress/bartender.

Let me tell you a story about tipping.

Frank Sinatra is famous with tipping. One day, he asks park driver, "Whas was the biggest tip you ever received?" Driver answers: 200$. Sinatra opens his wallet and hands driver 250$ and walks away. Then he turns and asks: Who was the person gave you 200$? Driver replies with smile: It was you Mr. Sinatra
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You shouldn't expect a tip. A tip is to be given on great service, nothing else. Thats how it should be.
exactly, why someone must tip, only good service should be tiped, give a good service and you will be tiped
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personal choice. one that says a lot about a person albeit.
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Tipping is good for certain things where people do something to earn the tip

20%
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Old 08-28-10, 10:23 AM   #27
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Bartenders, waitresses and dealers in casino if service is good. Only people who make less than minimum wage deserve a tip since tips are the way they make a living.
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It seems to be getting to the stage where EVERYONE expects a tip, you can see it in their face if you don't tip. I'm from Australia where we don't tip anyone for anything because the minimal wage is much higher.

A friend told me that they were asked for a tip by movers after paying 2 of them $270 for a 3 hour job and they only moved a block away. He told them no. I'm not tipping, the movers got pissed off and started walking out but his mother in law stopped them and gave them $50 each.

The other day I was moving, another short move in the same suburb. They had to go up 2 flights of stairs so it was hard work for them but they weren't very careful and scratched up a couple of pieces of my furniture. I considered not tipping at all but they looked exhausted by the end so I decided to tip. There were 3 of them and I gave them $30 each. The boss seemed happy but one of the Mexican workers scrunched his face up in disgust like I just took a dump on his foot.

Tomorrow I'm hiring a house cleaner and a carpet cleaner to clean my previous apartment to help insure I get my $2000 security deposit back (I had to pay so much because I had no credit in this country when I rented it). How much will these fukks expect to be tipped? Personally I don't want to tip them at all. They are earning good rates per hour unless their bosses skimp on them, and if that's the case they should take it up with them.

How will they react if I don't tip? Have you every been confronted for not tipping or not tipping enough?
How bout this...why don't you just do all that work yourself and you won't have to tip anyone...cept yourself
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In my job if we get tipped is considered a bribery and we can go to jail.
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I always give 10% of my Bill on restaurants, all other places no tip
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Never really thought about it but now that you mentioned it it is out of control...wtf?
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How bout this...why don't you just do all that work yourself and you won't have to tip anyone...cept yourself
tipping for a service is understandable, tipping for somebody grabbing a beer out of a cooler and twisting the top of makes no sense to me I would gladly reach in the cooler and twist my own bottle cap off to save a dollar this is not an inconvenience to me at all. If I was getting a mixed drink maybe but I am a grown man I do not need somebody to wipe my ass for me for a fee there are some things that I am fully capable of taking care of myself with ease.

If somebody is catering to you with something that would be inconvenient for you to do and you want an incentive for good service tipping is good but somethings are simple enough to do for your self.

I do not need to pay for somebody to squirt soap in my hands after I piss and I do not need to pay for somebody to open my beer for me and I do not need to pay somebody for handing me a bag of food that I picked up myself.

I do need to pay for somebody to cater to me at a table while I enjoy a meal and some other services that are inconvenient to do for myself.

I agree with the OP it is out of control next you are going to have some guy at the grocery store stepping on the sensor to open the door as you walk in expecting a tip.
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I tip waitresses & bartenders, because they make less than minimum wage, they basically work for tips & they work hard. I usually dont tip anyone who is paid a fukin hourly or salary wage.
what he said. $2.13 an hour for a waitress / bartender is insane. They do work their asses off and I tip 20% - 30% if the service is good. 5% - 10% if I have to wait around with an empty glass which rarely happens. If they get me real drunk, I have been known to match the tab with an equal amount of tip. Flirty cute always helps!
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Old 08-28-10, 12:46 PM   #34
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The one that gets me is the casino bathroom attendant. Like I'm going to tip the guy for waving his hand in front of the towel dispenser for me !
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Apparently we have posters here who actually tip the slot attendant when they win a jackpot. That is pretty stupid since some posters suggested giving the slot lady $100 for a jackpot of $3000. You really should give a dime in my opinion. The slot attendant does less work than the bathroom guy
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