[ritehook]

Oh yeah, it happend last week. Already old news.

But we all know, don't we?, that if the slain women were black and their killers were white this story would have the legs of a giant.

Alas, the media pundits will have to put away their long-winded moralizing for a while: the women were white, and at least one of their killers was black, and likely the other one also

Just another bad day in Gotham, gang. After all, we all know that only whites are guilty of racism. All other crimes, like black on white, are just for boring economic or sexual reasons.

[BadNina]

The Auburn case has been solved. They have arrested a man who then confessed. I think he may have been an ex of the girl. She was buried in Georgia over the weekend and they had a memorial service for her at Auburn on Monday.

The only controversial matter was that whack group that march at all soldier funerals were planning to attend hers as well.

[CrazyL]

Originally Posted by ritehook

Just another bad day in Gotham, gang. After all, we all know that only whites are guilty of racism. All other crimes, like black on white, are just for boring economic or sexual reasons.

Exactly.

[ritehook]

Bill Cosby is one of the few prominent people who has openly discussed the apparently perpetual problem of crime in black urban areas.

Sure, other ethnic groups once engaged in it out of proportion to their numbers, the Irish, Italians, Jews, etc. They had gangs and were often violent.

And they were discriminated against by the larger community. "Irish and Dogs Not Welcome" were signs that used to appear in New England.

But they all overcame that. What is it with the incredibly high rate of black crime? Generation after genereation?

It is well-known that the high levels of gun violence in America (well, not well-known to pious anti-gun Europeans) is
high mostly in the ghettos. The rate of gun suicide and homicide among whites has remained steady (and low) for a century.

[ritehook]

Originally Posted by BadNina

The Auburn case has been solved. They have arrested a man who then confessed. I think he may have been an ex of the girl. She was buried in Georgia over the weekend and they had a memorial service for her at Auburn on Monday.

The only controversial matter was that whack group that march at all soldier funerals were planning to attend hers as well.

Solving a case never stops the PC moralizing media. The case of the black hitchhiker in Texas who a few years ago was brutally murdered by some white degenerates was pushed into our faces ad nauseum. Right up to and long after the trial.

Black on white crime - far more prevalent than the reverse - pretty much gets a media pass. Because, you see,if it teaches no large moral lessons to the Unwashed, it's hardly as important as "ordinary" crimes.

The lives and deaths of these co-eds is clearly nowhere near as important as that of the Texas hitch-hiker. Ya gotta get with the program.

[CrazyL]

Originally Posted by ritehook

What is it with the incredibly high rate of black crime? Generation after genereation?

I don't know how to answer this question, but I know how people commonly do. They blame the poverty, and the surrounding conditions. That is so incredibly silly.

There aren't areas rundown with white trailer park trash? Or areas that are actually composed of many whites that are well in the lower class in terms of income levels? I don't think those areas are putting up Bed Stuy numbers.

I think there are many variables involved in it, be they the proliferation of hiphop, social tension, upbringing, whatever the case may be there is an alarming and eye popping number of predominantly black crimes going on in this country, populating the prisons, and involved with gang activity. That is very real and isn't hardly touched on enough due to the fear it'd be pegged as racist or start a race war. It's fact is what it is.

[ritehook]

Anyone remember the Al Sharpton hoax of the '90s?

Ol' Al produced a young black women who had a savage tale of rape. By a rabid gang of whites.

When they'd finished with her they carved or painted racist symbols on her flesh.

Outrageous! Disgusting! Hang the Bastards!

Right. But it was all a fabrication. Tho while it was proceeding, for years if i recall, the media had a field day.

And btw, the Rev Al never apologised for the hoax.

[ritehook]

Originally Posted by crazyl

I don't know how to answer this question, but I know how people commonly do. They blame the poverty, and the surrounding conditions. That is so incredibly silly.

There aren't areas rundown with white trailer park trash? Or areas that are actually composed of many whites that are well in the lower class in terms of income levels? I don't think those areas are putting up Bed Stuy numbers.

I think there are many variables involved in it, be they the proliferation of hiphop, social tension, upbringing, whatever the case may be there is an alarming and eye popping number of predominantly black crimes going on in this country, populating the prisons, and involved with gang activity. That is very real and isn't hardly touched on enough due to the fear it'd be pegged as racist or start a race war. It's fact is what it is.

If a white celeb like Bill Cosby spoke up on this matter, his career would be over.

Cosby is rich enough and old enough not to care. Or rather, he
does care. Cares about his people, and looks to them to solve their own severe problems.

There is a high tolerance for criminal behavior in black urban areas, as Cosby bemoans. There is a code of silence there (celebrated in rap, re "snitches") tht makes the old Sicilian "omerta" look like child's play.

One thing you can absolutely count on. When a "hate crime" (by definition ONLY committed by whites or straights) happens, the very media talking heads who cry the loudest are the ones who are living in the whitest communities.

Horse's mouth stuff.

[BrentCrude]

Yup,I bring this stuff up all the time.I commented on these murders last week and thought at least one of the girls was murdered because she was a real bleeding heart liberal I think?She was always on missions to Cuba etc.She was very active in student activism and I have been around those types a lot and they yell about hate crimes all the time when white guys do something to a minority.

That said,she ended up being senselessly murdered by a minority.I guess if you come from a liberal family and upbringing,you really can't say it's a hate crime then when a minority killed your daughter.

Hmmm,is there such a thing as a love crime??I think all murders are hate crimes in that no matter what color the perp is and what color the victim is,the victim is dead so what's the difference as to the degree of hate that went into the murder.Once again,the liberals are big into thought crimes and can mind read a persons intent in everything.Why not treat everyone equal and when you find out who kills someone,give them all an equal long term jail sentence??What a novel idea,treat people equally.I thought that was liberal democrats credo????????

Hillary,Ted Kennedy,hairlip Jackson,Sharpton and Obama would be holding candlight marches against white on black racism if this murder was a minority killed by a white guy.The liberal media would be steadily beating the drum of white on minority racism.

True story,I live an hour away from liberal socialist Duluth,Minnesota.It's the San Francisco of the north.A few years ago a black couple had their house totally ransacked.No one knew who did it.The town went balistic holding rallies against racism saying that whites should be ashamed of this crime.It turned out where the couple was drug dealing and ripped someone off and the drug people took revenge looting their house.All the socialist commie libs that were screaming for 2 weeks about racism went back in their holes and didn't say a peep as far as an appology was concerned.Libs like to jump to conclusions!Knee jerk reaction jerks!

[ritehook]

True story,I live an hour away from liberal socialist Duluth,Minnesota.It's the San Francisco of the north.A few years ago a black couple had their house totally ransacked.No one knew who did it.The town went balistic holding rallies against racism saying that whites should be ashamed of this crime.It turned out where the couple was drug dealing and ripped someone off and the drug people took revenge looting their house.All the socialist commie libs that were screaming for 2 weeks about racism went back in their holes and didn't say a peep as far as an appology was concerned.Libs like to jump to conclusions!-brentCrude

These kinds of fabrications have been transpiring for at least a generation, probably more.

Some of the "hangmen's noose" cases have been, if I recall rightly, merely some ambitious or publicity-hound minority who fashioned a noose and left it on thier own desks or homes.

Because they know (a) that the comically slavish PC media will eat it up as a dog eats its own puke, and (b) that if by chance the hoax is discovered the same media will bury the "story" deep on page 190. If they report the attempted scam at all.

[ritehook]

On the other hand the media - network TV mainly - has shown bias against blacks.

Also network news. Take the case of the young woman (name escapes me, fortunately) who dissapeared in Aruba a few years ago, and is almost certainly dead.

I'm told the networks recently did yet another story on this case. That must make, what?, 50 or 80? We were - at the time of the disappearance and suspicion of foul play - treated to nonstop coverage.

Some blacks at the time had told repporters that they tried to get the networks interested in cases where young black women disappeared, or were victims of foul play.

The networks were not interessted. Blondes sell. What Imus refers to as kinky-heads don't. Simple as that. Remember it next time some punk on the tube belches out pious bull manure about a horrible case of "white racism."

And the "who done it" newsmagazine shows, with a constant true story diet of women murdered by husbands or boyfriends. Or sometimes the latter murdered by the woman.

White women. I rarely watch those things, but a friend who does tells me she's never seen one that featured a black woman.

Because the networks know that the main audience for that kind of fare are white, mostly white females. And that audience just couldn't properly "identify" with a black woman who was killed or the killer.

Maybe also they don't want to portray a black husband or bf as a killer.

Wonder what Tom Jefferson would think of the "free press" he pinned such high hopes on, to preserve and strengthen civic virtue and the blessings of liberty?

[BigBollocks]

Originally Posted by crazyl

I don't know how to answer this question, but I know how people commonly do. They blame the poverty, and the surrounding conditions. That is so incredibly silly.

There aren't areas rundown with white trailer park trash? Or areas that are actually composed of many whites that are well in the lower class in terms of income levels? I don't think those areas are putting up Bed Stuy numbers.

I think there are many variables involved in it, be they the proliferation of hiphop, social tension, upbringing, whatever the case may be there is an alarming and eye popping number of predominantly black crimes going on in this country, populating the prisons, and involved with gang activity. That is very real and isn't hardly touched on enough due to the fear it'd be pegged as racist or start a race war. It's fact is what it is.

Crazyl I teach HR courses, and have always said what you mentioned above. Research has always shown that the less income one has, the higher his or her natural propensity is to commit a crime. You bring up an interesting point, but one that will never be studied as the individual conducting the study would be drilled over his intentions in the first place.

It'd be interesting to see the rates of homicide, burglary, etc., amongst racial lines for those on similar economic standing. Some of this data is out there, but a true study would also be able to control so that it's new money vs. new money, longstanding poverty vs. longstanding poverty, etc., in order to control for monied generational differences.

[BigBollocks]

For the record, this girl at Auburn University was 18, and her attacker was believed to be unfamiliar to her. He had also held a little kid at gunpoint just a week before while robbing a parent.

[hoopster42]

the black cop in ohio who killed his gf got tons of play when it first happened

[BigBollocks]

I do believe what is said in this thread is true to a large degree in terms of media coverage. There was a case that really emphasized this point that occurred a little over a year ago.

Two white students from the University of Tennessee were on a date, and carjacked and kidnapped at gunpoint by five African Americans. The male, 23, was sodomized, had his penis cut off (all in front of his girlfriend), and was then taken to the traintracks and shot and set afire. Unfortunately, he had it easier of the two. His girlfriend, 21, was raped in multiple ways, had one of her breasts cut off, and then had bleach poured down her throat to eliminate DNA evidence, all while she was still alive. She was then urinated on, burned to death, cut up, and placed in five separate garbage bags within the residence.

This somehow hardly received any media attention even in the couple's hometown, and is thought by many to highlight the points that a lot of you in this thread are alluding to.