[ritehook]

She wins Ohio, and at this writing has a slight lead in Texas. Even if she loses Texas her campaign is very viable.

One poster (can't recalll the name and don't have time to do a search) has insisted all along that Mrs Clinton would get the nomination.

She's still not in, but Ohio was big, and if she snags Penna she'll be riding very high.

Bad night for those who backed Obama with bread as a sizable dog.

Good night in the govt halls of Tel Aviv.

[ritehook]

Even if Hillary wins a close one in Texas (strange process combining both popular vote and caucauses) she'll still be behind in the delegate count by around 90, due to the proportional representative.

Interesting. The polit stuff between Tweedledee and Tweedledum usually bores me, but other than the upcoming NCAA Tournament, this is the only "sports" contest that gets my attention right now.

[Deuce]

The GOP will run away with the race if either one of those jack offs win. Sadly, we are doomed either way. McCain is weak too. Sad that out of 200 million adults in the US, these clowns are the best we have.

[durito]

She has a 0% of coming out ahead in earned delegates. The only way she can win the nomination is from the super-delegates.

Nothing changed today at all.

[ritehook]

In the mid-1920s the noted American journalist, H.L. Mencken, stated:

AMERICA IS A LAND WHERE AMONG APPROXIMATELY 120 MILLION WHITE MALES, MANY OF THEM HANDSOME AND A FEW OF THEM WISE, PICKS A CALVIN COOLIDGE TO BE THEIR PRESIDENT.

IT'S LIKE A STARVING MAN, PRESENTED WITH A RICH 14 COURSE BANQUET, DECIDES TO STAY HIS HUNGER BY CATCHING AND EATING FLIES.

I'm quoting from memory, but that's the sense of it.

[ritehook]

Mencken also made the everlasting bon mot:

NOBODY EVER LOST MONEY UNDER-ESTIMATING THE INTELLIGENCE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

I should make that my siggie.

[BigBollocks]

That'd make a great tag line indeed ritehook. I still don't see how Hillary wins, but it's tough to discount the Clinton machine.

John McCain has to absolutely loving all of this

[hoopster42]

dont take a bow yet madonna, remember that song? anywhoo, she still hasnt won the nomination so all he did was predict something that was pretty obvious, that this will be a good race for dem nomination

[BigBollocks]

I came very close to playing Hillary at plus money to win the Texas primary at Matchbook hoopster. Definitely kicking myself for squandering value on that one

[isetcap]

...Nothing changed today at all.

Very much changed today. Momentum and Perception. Yesterday BO was practically the presumptive nominee and for the past week he's been acting the part. Now he needs to completely restructure his strategy and end his back and forth with McCain which is part of the reason he's allowed Clinton back into the race. Clinton is helping voters see through the inspirational haze and Obama needs to crank up the smoke machine once again or else he'll discover this is a momentum shift he is unable to reverse. He should probably refrain from writing any more memos to Canadian diplomats also.

[jjgold]

Can Clinton win this??

[gm2022]

Can Hanky get laid without paying???????

[jjgold]

Can Hanky get laid without paying???????

No

[gm2022]

lol truth will set you free lol

[jjgold]

GM I am so respected on forums because of my honest, I do not lie about getting laid, ect

[gm2022]

Hahaha hanky than start putting your true slef in the avitar not this world strongest man copy paste picture

[Sportsgirl]

The GOP will run away with the race if either one of those jack offs win. Sadly, we are doomed either way. McCain is weak too. Sad that out of 200 million adults in the US, these clowns are the best we have.

Stand-out post, Deuce.

[ShamsWoof10]

Good call on her winning OHIO I agree... I can get Toledo and Cleveland locals and all I saw was Obama and Dennis K...

I ripppppped the family members of mine that supported one person and voted for another "because they have the better chance of winning"... Is everybody brain dead in this world..?

Shams: "Dad you're 65 years old and you vote like a 5 year old ...along with the rest of this goofy society"

You guys know I think this is all garbage but if you are going to waste your time and go out and vote AT LEAST vote for the person you think is the BEST CANADATE of everyone ON THE F*CKIN' TICKET not just from the top 2... God damn that burns my as* when people do that... If you support Ron Paul then VOTE FOR HIM...

[RageWizard]

I'm really sick of this campaign stuff. This has been going on for about two years already and there is still 7 more months of this crap. I really don't think that the repubs have a chance in hell this year. Yeah they will all eventually drink the Kool-aid and get in line behind the guy they don't even like, but there is a shit load of people pissed off at them. Also the next pres will probably get a supreme court nomination, so be wary about getting a repub, we could be headed to the dark ages. I'm not saying the dems are much better, but if you look at the underhanded nanny repubs lately who masked everything under the guideline of being american while they strip everything american out of the words. I guess we need a third party that will force some comprimise in the country.

Am I the only one who feels a war brewing between the Jesus land people and the Coastal Progressives?

[Willie Bee]

I'm a bit surprised that Hillary took Texas. Obama had a nice little run-up of momentum and it was a very lovely day in Texas on Tuesday weather wise. I thought that the huge number of black voters in Houston and Dallas especially might have been enough for Obama to carry Texas yesterday. Makes me wonder if a bunch of GOP voters registered as Dems last year just to get Hillary the delegates from Texas because the GOP knows that nationwide, they can beat Clinton much easier than Obama.

[BrentCrude]

The banjo picking,fur trapping, lunatic right wing mountain man that lives in a log cabin in Montana that sold his furs to buy a one way greyhound bus ticket to pay Hillary a visit was all ready to ask Greyhound for a refund.

[Dark Horse]

I'm a bit surprised that Hillary took Texas. Obama had a nice little run-up of momentum and it was a very lovely day in Texas on Tuesday weather wise. I thought that the huge number of black voters in Houston and Dallas especially might have been enough for Obama to carry Texas yesterday. Makes me wonder if a bunch of GOP voters registered as Dems last year just to get Hillary the delegates from Texas because the GOP knows that nationwide, they can beat Clinton much easier than Obama.

When the news mentioned last night that Ohio and Texas were too close to call, I turned to my wife and told her they'd go to Clinton. Always nice to see 'conspiracy theories' work in real life.

[Theory: Not a problem at all to rig the votes electronically in close elections. The corporations want Clinton over Obama. She's bought and paid for. He's not (so much). ]

[isetcap]

When the news mentioned last night that Ohio and Texas were too close to call, I turned to my wife and told her they'd go to Clinton. Always nice to see 'conspiracy theories' work in real life.

[Theory: Not a problem at all to rig the votes electronically in close elections. The corporations want Clinton over Obama. She's bought and paid for. He's not (so much). ]

So your basis is that if the candidate you think should win does not win then it is conclusive evidence that the vote was rigged? Apparently the word "theory" has discovered a newfound low in its level of significance.

[Dark Horse]

No idea what you are reading. Where have a said I like any of the candidates?

The candidate that is owned by corporations has a major edge in elections that are close, because electronic elections can be manipulated without a trace. I base this, among other things, on the 2000 and 2004 elections (Florida and Ohio).

But I don't mean to disturb your belief in the democratic system. Kind of a Santa Claus thing.
As to your conclusion, f*ck you too.

[Willie Bee]

The candidate that is owned by corporations has a major edge in elections that are close, because electronic elections can be manipulated without a trace. I base this, among other things, on the 2000 and 2004 elections (Florida and Ohio).

I guess this is the part that bugs me the most, DH. You say it can be done without a trace, yet you point to the 2000 and 2004 elections in Florida and Ohio as definitive proof that it was done. Where is the evidence if it can be done without a trace?

As for the Texas vote yesterday, I'm sure you once again have mounds of untraceable evidence the eletronic ballots were rigged. Of course, the actual delegate count has not been decided yet. Since that involves people voicing their own votes, I'm not sure how that part is going to be rigged unless the rooms were full of some very, very good ventriloquists. And as the caucus votes are added in, Obama is closing the gap in the delegate count.

[isetcap]

No idea what you are reading. Where have a said I like any of the candidates?

The candidate that is owned by corporations has a major edge in elections that are close, because electronic elections can be manipulated without a trace. I base this, among other things, on the 2000 and 2004 elections (Florida and Ohio).

But I don't mean to disturb your belief in the democratic system. Kind of a Santa Claus thing.
As to your conclusion, f*ck you too.

If you care to actually read my post, I never mentioned that you "liked" either of the candidates. I explicitly stated "the candidate you think should win". Just because I often think the San Antonio Spurs should win does not mean that I like them. To take it even further, if I think SAS should win a game and it happens that they don't, I don't cry that the fix was in. Although it may be an explanation, it most certainly is not the most likely reality. You've take skepticism to a whole new level and it essentially discredits the viability of your arguments. So there's another conclusion you can f*ck with.

[Dark Horse]

I guess this is the part that bugs me the most, DH. You say it can be done without a trace, yet you point to the 2000 and 2004 elections in Florida and Ohio as definitive proof that it was done. Where is the evidence if it can be done without a trace?

As for the Texas vote yesterday, I'm sure you once again have mounds of untraceable evidence the eletronic ballots were rigged. Of course, the actual delegate count has not been decided yet. Since that involves people voicing their own votes, I'm not sure how that part is going to be rigged unless the rooms were full of some very, very good ventriloquists. And as the caucus votes are added in, Obama is closing the gap in the delegate count.

Where do we start? I'm way beyond the point where I even care. lol Been there done that. I'm not into last night's elections, nor into the US elections. I just mentioned to my wife who would win. Call it coincidence. Fine with me.

Blackboxvoting.org if you're into studying this sh*t.

[Dark Horse]

If you care to actually read my post, I never mentioned that you "liked" either of the candidates. I explicitly stated "the candidate you think should win". Just because I often think the San Antonio Spurs should win does not mean that I like them. To take it even further, if I think SAS should win a game and it happens that they don't, I don't cry that the fix was in. Although it may be an explanation, it most certainly is not the most likely reality. You've take skepticism to a whole new level and it essentially discredits the viability of your arguments. So there's another conclusion you can f*ck with.

LMAO.

I mentioned the outcome last night, before the results were in, based on a theory that I don't care you believe in or not.

So what are you talking about? About the difference between liking and thinking who should win? About the Spurs? Go f*ck yourself.

[Willie Bee]

Go f*ck yourself.

There you go, cap. Going to be tough to beat that comeback.

[Dark Horse]

Sorry to step on toes here, guys. No idea you all still believed in the system. Dream on.

Yes you can! yes you can! yes you can!

[isetcap]

LMAO.

I mentioned the outcome last night, before the results were in, based on a theory that I don't care you believe in or not.

So what are you talking about? About the difference between liking and thinking who should win? About the Spurs? Go f*ck yourself.

More solid evidence. You've almost moved me.

Apparently (based on your original post) you were of the opinion that Obama would win one of the 2 prize states that were up for grab last night. As the night developed, you realized that it was a "close" race for both states and you declared to your fair wife that Hillary would win both states strictly based on the "theory" that some Democratic Political Machine would alter the electronic voting results. Apparently the outrageous notion that Clinton actually compiled more real votes never crossed your vastly more elevated mentality since you are of the opinion that any time an electronic vote is held, it must be fixed.

[tacomax]

How did Obama put together that long string of victories? Weren't they able to rig the votes electronically in those elections? If they only use this technology in close contests then I'm sure they can also manipulate the opinion polls to ensure that every contest is a "close contest".

[Dark Horse]

I was not of the opinion that Obama would win. I haven't even followed the election. I heard, on the news, briefly that Texas and Ohio were close. Based on my observation that the system YOU believe in is corrupt to the core, I concluded that Hillary would win both states. That is all.

And you accuse me of making assumptions? Too funny.

Oh, there is Taco. Long time...
*sigh*
Are you guys telling me that the concept of rigged elections is news to you?
If so, I'm not going there. I have time nor interest to go in-depth into any subject here. As you may know, I used to, so don't think of it as a cop out. This is the place where, thank to Willie and co, we may come to discuss the size of our dicks or t*ts.

[durito]

"momentum" means nothing when she has 0 chance of overtaking Obama in earned delegates.

If the super delegates want to give her the nomination anyway, fine. But, they're losing at least one vote in the process.

[Dark Horse]

Just to conclude this little interchange. I've often gone on the record saying that corporations rule America, that politicians are bought and paid for, and that America, in essence, is a fascist state (or a step -or 'terrorist attack'- away from fullblown fascism). The elections give the appearance of choice, but they are easily rigged. If you believe so much in your system, why don't you at least research that last part, so that you can protect your system, should that be necessary? My experience is that, for most people, even that is too much to ask. Therefore my conclusion is that Americans deserve no better.