[MoneyMatters]

Hi Everyone,

I'm sure you guys out there are pretty familiar with what "data" has been doing for long time, I thought it wouldn't hurt one more person does the same thing.

Well, even though i have a "rookie", i'm no rookie by any means when it comes to gambling. Therefore, I'm gonna have a little different approach than "flat bettors".

It is called "1-3-2-6 System". It's pretty amazing unit system which is almost self explanatory. Whatever is your unit, you bet 1 unit in your first bet. If you win, your next bet is 3 units, if you win that one too your next bet would be 2 units and finally if you win the first three bets your last bet would be 6 units.
Well, you may say, what's the point? When you win 4 bets on a row, you win money anyways. But secret lies on loosing. When you win your first and the second bets, you are up 4 units. Even if you lost the third one you are still up 2 units. And when you win your first 3 and lost the 4th one, you are even. (off course this is good for spreads and very little juice, and doesn't apply moneyline bets unless you parlay them to make at least +100 even bet).

Anyways, not being well known (as Martingale), this system is very profitable in every casino games (especially Baccarat). Well, it is highly based on having streaks. Since winning streaks profits more than loosing streaks takes back (based on 4 plays), systems always turns profit in long run.

Enough said, let's start the action. As you can see, my starting bankroll would be $330 and right know my starting unit size is $33.33. I know it's a bit percentage unit but i'm trusting the system.

Anyways, my first pick is Cleveland Cavaliers -2.5 First half against Chicago.

$33.33 Cleveland Cavaliers -2.5 first half -105


Good Luck

[Louisvillekid1]

GL,

Its not for me tho,

[diogee]

Good luck to you MM and welcome to SBR.

[MoneyMatters]

First quarter looks good, Cleveland is up by 7.

[MoneyMatters]

Wow! First bet of the system won by half point. (Cleveland -2.5 first half)
Anyways, good start for the "1-3-2-6" System.
Now, this is the hard one. Second bet which is 3 unit is the biggest bet. If you win you guarantee a profit for the day.
And..... My pick is Cleveland -2 second half (-105)
Risk $99.99 (3 units).

Good Luck!

[MoneyMatters]

I'm thinking, LeBron scored 23 points in first half. Star players like LeBron don't wanna loose when they score over 35pts a game. Because, it looks bad for them, also it looks bad for the franchise.
Well, hopefully i'm right, one way to find out.

Good Luck

[rake922]

Welcome to SBR

[babaoriley]

Congrats on the two wins. I'm not a fan of the system, but if you hit that 4th game, you're golden.

[MoneyMatters]

Thanks,

Cavs covered the -2 second half, and that was the biggest bet in the system.
Now, it's time for the fun part. 3rd bet is 2 units. If you loose, you're still up 2 units, which is not bad.

Well, 3rd bet would be Dallas +3.5 first half. $66.66

Good Luck

[MoneyMatters]

Well, we've won the 3 leg of the system too, with half of point. (Mavs +3.5 first half). Thanks to Kobe missed both free throws with 2.0 seconds left.
Well, loosing the 3rd wouldn't be the worst scenario. Now here comes the last bet of the system.

Now, i don't want anybody calling me a chicken or anything, but i will be betting 5 units, for the last bet instead of 6. This not-well known system is designed for casino even bets. Not for sportsbetting, therefore needed a adjustment.
Casino games, like Roulette outside bets and baccarat (except the 5% commission on banker) pays even money. Therefore, even loosing the 6 unit 4th bet would leave you with money. But at sportsbetting, there is something called "juice" as everybody knows. So with any kind of juice, when you loose your 4th bet, you don't actually get even, you'd be down a little depending on the juice.

Overall, i make my 4th bet on the "1-3-2-6 Sytstem" , 5 units as opposed to 6 units. This way you can always turn a profit, which will make a huge difference in the long run.

Without getting confused my pick will be

Mavericks / Lakers second half over 105 - $133.32

Good Luck

[MoneyMatters]

Honestly, i don't usually play over/unders, and making my biggest bet an under can be a mistake. But Lakers/Maverics game has a good chance going over 105 2nd half.
But without looking a game, if i had a chance i would take Mavs +3 second half.
Call me crazy, but Sunday national TV broadcast games tends to be close ones, it's a high possibility the game will be decided by no more than 5 points.

[MoneyMatters]

Just wanna mark the highest point of the system so far at
$517.00
Considering $330 bankroll ($300 deposit + $30 bonus), that's not bad.
But that's no big deal, what my suggestion is, this system can show a profit in long term.

Because you're risking little money to win bigger amount. (to be exact risking total of 2 units to win 12 units)

Honestly, i'm on my way to loose my biggest bet (if no overtime occurs) , but it doesn't matter, because in this system, you still show a profit even after going 2-2.

Well, it's just one day, but let's see, how long this thread will last.

[MoneyMatters]

Ok everyone,

Dallas Lakers game is tied 88-88 under 2 minutes to go. Whatever happens, let's move on the the first game of the "1-3-2-6 System".

I'm picking NO Hornets -4 for the first half against Washington. 1 unit $33.33

[MoneyMatters]

Ok, first 4 series are perfectly executed. 4-0 and total of $638.

[MoneyMatters]

Ok it's 4-1, and i don't know how to say this but it doesn't feel bad at all to loose the 1st leg of the bet which is the smallest unit, if i had to loose one.
Anyways, total is $605 now, and my 1 unit next pick will be...

Call Me Crazy...

Charlotte +2 second half (-105) one unit $33.33

[BeatTheJerk]

this system seems pretty intresting i would like to see how it turns out .........

[MoneyMatters]

Since i'm following the system, i'm not playing this one but if i can , i would parlay the Celtic-Atlanta game under 102 second half and NewOrleans -7.5 second half. Has great value.

By the way i'm using the term "system" but what i actually mean is "strategy". I've been around long enough to not believe in systems but i do believe in strategies.

[BeatTheJerk]

well i agree with that

[BigBollocks]

MoneyMatters....I'd strongly urge you to post this system in the "Handicapper Think Tank" for better analysis

[MoneyMatters]

Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk

this system won't last over/under on his bankroll one month you heard it right here, i say under, but if your able to go over then good for you, i think the system is totally bogus in my personal opinon ..........

Well Mr. Jerk ,

I don't expect you to understand the system, which i didn't want to explain in full details, but this is no martingale or a positive progression system. That's why it is one of the well kept strategies. Overall, it allows you to show profit in cases like 2-2 even 1-3, and it helps you to win in long run.

From your personal experiences, what occurs most in sportsbetting. Let me tell you, hot or cold streaks. This strategy is based on having a perfect 4 game winning streak. Which occurs a lot. If you have a 4 game loosing streak right after it, no problem, because the scenario like this will leave you +8 profit.
Put this system in to the computer simulation if you can, and see it beats the flat betting system.

It's all i have to say.

Best Regards,

[BeatTheJerk]

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[BeatTheJerk]

i mean if you have stronger feelings on certain games and you wanna break it up into different unit plays thats fine, but your just picking games out of a hat, theres no patients here and theres no picking your spots as we say in this world of wagering, your pulling picks out yer azz today ............ which fortunately won your 1st 4

[BeatTheJerk]

if 4 game winning streaks happen a hole lot like you say then just play them in a parlay or progressive parlay setting, your return is far more favorable

[MoneyMatters]

Mr. Jerk

Maybe you should have read the thread fully. Since this strategy is originally created for casino even money games (such as roulette outside bet and baccarat), it can't be used the same way for sportsbetting since a "juice" involved. Therefore i modified the last bet for being 5 units, therefore as in your example you would be happy to go 3-1 and loose your biggest bet, because you will still be showing profit.


I don't want a debate right now, hopefully you'll stop by my thread in couple weeks. One thing, i'm open minded and i don't like bookies keep winning, do you? I'd like you, me and everybody to take the bookies money as much as possible.

Good luck to you,

By the way my Charlotte +2 second half looks pretty good being up by 15 second half.

[BeatTheJerk]

i hear you thats perfectly fine with me, i'll try to keep posted with it as much as i can, thanks and PS nice work today 5-1 is a great day for any system .........

[babaoriley]

Originally Posted by MoneyMatters

Well, we've won the 3 leg of the system too, with half of point. (Mavs +3.5 first half). Thanks to Kobe missed both free throws with 2.0 seconds left.
Well, loosing the 3rd wouldn't be the worst scenario. Now here comes the last bet of the system.

Now, i don't want anybody calling me a chicken or anything, but i will be betting 5 units, for the last bet instead of 6. This not-well known system is designed for casino even bets. Not for sportsbetting, therefore needed a adjustment.
Casino games, like Roulette outside bets and baccarat (except the 5% commission on banker) pays even money. Therefore, even loosing the 6 unit 4th bet would leave you with money. But at sportsbetting, there is something called "juice" as everybody knows. So with any kind of juice, when you loose your 4th bet, you don't actually get even, you'd be down a little depending on the juice.

Overall, i make my 4th bet on the "1-3-2-6 Sytstem" , 5 units as opposed to 6 units. This way you can always turn a profit, which will make a huge difference in the long run.

Without getting confused my pick will be

Mavericks / Lakers second half over 105 - $133.32


Good Luck

What sports book allows you to claim OT points in 2nd half totals?

[MoneyMatters]

Mmm,

I guess all of them!!! What sports book doesn't allow you to claim OT points in 2nd half totals?

Well, whole Dallas/Lakers thread was cheering up for the overtime. With all respect, now i'm wondering which book you are playing?

[MoneyMatters]

Anyways since my Charlotte +2 is looking solid, by second bet would be Denver / Houston under 105 first half, 3 units, $99.99

Good Luck,

[babaoriley]

I play at BetJam. Maybe I haven't had a 2H bet go into OT or something.

[MoneyMatters]

Ok, 5-1,
My Charlotte +2 second half turned out to be an easy one.

My Denver/Houston under 105 first half looking good. They gonna have to score 67 pts in the second quarter.

Anyways, i recently remember hitting my head to the walls watching Houston offense so slow almost using the full 24 seconds when i had them over, therefore i found that u/o 105 real high, just because Denver scored crazy the last game over a bad team.

[MoneyMatters]

It's officially 6-1.

Denver/Houston under 105 turned out to be an easy one too. This was important because the second bet of the system is relatively the biggest bet. Now 2 units.

My pick would be Sacramento -3.5 against Miami 1st half.

Also i would like to see the second half Hou/Den over under as well, can be a nice bet.

[MoneyMatters]

Don't you rather being blown out than loosing a bet with half point.
Anyways I lost my -3.5 Sacramento first half bet by 20 some points.
Since it's the third bet of the "1-3-2-6 System", it is the most profitable to loose one. Since it came after the 1 and 3 unit bets, it's still 2 unit profit for the session.

And 6-2 overall.

[BigBollocks]

Originally Posted by babaoriley

I play at BetJam. Maybe I haven't had a 2H bet go into OT or something.

Baba every book counts OT on 2nd halfs and game totals. That's been standard Vegas grading procedure from day one...

[xyz]

For a player that wins 50% of the time, flat betting and using the system described in this thread would yield the same outcome over the long run. For this system, assume there are x1 number of bets at 1 unit, x2 number of bets at 3 units, x3 number of bets at 2 units, and x4 number of bets at 6 units. Over the long run, the player would win 50% of the bets at each category. This would have the same outcome as flat betting.

[MoneyMatters]

Originally Posted by xyz

For a player that wins 50% of the time, flat betting and using the system described in this thread would yield the same outcome over the long run. For this system, assume there are x1 number of bets at 1 unit, x2 number of bets at 3 units, x3 number of bets at 2 units, and x4 number of bets at 6 units. Over the long run, the player would win 50% of the bets at each category. This would have the same outcome as flat betting.

xyz

Good approach, and i'm aware of that. Let me tell you, this is not a get rich quick scheme. But you're missing one element. We're not flipping coins. We all know, sportsbetting is full of streaks. Other than flat betting, in this strategy, winning streaks outcomes the cold loosing streaks. And yet this is no Martingale or a positive progression system.

I don't wanna write down everything here, but all i have to say is "after a very disciplined and successful week, i've been kicked out from Borgata Casino Atlantic City. They literally escorted me to the outside of the casino. And let me make it clear. I'm a store manager of the very well known Mens Suit store, and i dressed up real well every time i went there. Don't let it fool you, i'm playing with $300's here, but i was winning big, 7 days on a row. That's besides the point, but bottom line, they don't want disciplined players who sticks to their strategy and doesn't get emotional.

Me, posting plays here, has nothing to do with educating people or anything like that. It's only and only make me more disciplined and stick to it.

That's all i have to say, and thank you for the input.