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Old 02-04-06, 05:03 PM   #1
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Default Heads will be called on coin toss?

From Pinnacle...

Yes -173
No +160

Why heads?
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Old 02-04-06, 05:06 PM   #2
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Heads always called. It's a macho type of thing in the Super Bowl. Tails sounds wimpy.

I forget the percentage but according to past results heads is a great bet.
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Old 02-04-06, 05:18 PM   #3
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For a 50/50 bet I will take a chance with no. I don't care how wimpy it sounds.
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Old 02-04-06, 06:56 PM   #4
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For a 50/50 bet I will take a chance with no. I don't care how wimpy it sounds.
This is certainly NOT a 50/50 bet.
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Old 02-04-06, 08:22 PM   #5
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This is certainly NOT a 50/50 bet.
Correct. In fact, it's blatantly obvious that Pinnacle knows this very well and is begging for Illusion and others to bet the 'no'.

Does anyone really think that the wonderful people at Pinnacle don't know what they're doing, EVER?
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Old 02-04-06, 08:28 PM   #6
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This is certainly an instance where past performance is a powerful indicator of probability. That is why this is not a 50/50 bet. I hope you don't take the 'no', Ill, but you're one of the best cappers I've seen so I'm sure you'll figure it out on your own.

If you still say NO, then Pinnacle better move that line!
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Old 02-04-06, 08:29 PM   #7
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I'm with Illusion. I am betting tails..
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Old 02-04-06, 08:35 PM   #8
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I'm with Illusion. I am betting tails..
Oops! Everybody please disregard all my previous posts on this topic. Illusion and IMG are on NO.

New Line--

Heads
Yes : +900
No: -1000
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Old 02-04-06, 08:38 PM   #9
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LOL iset. I have 2 free bets on the coin toss both went on Tails.. -100..
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Old 02-04-06, 09:49 PM   #10
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Oops! Everybody please disregard all my previous posts on this topic. Illusion and IMG are on NO.

Heads
Yes : +900
No: -1000
No disrespect to Illusion or Img but this is funny.
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Old 02-04-06, 09:55 PM   #11
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No disrespect to Illusion or Img but this is funny.
Believe me, Raiders, I am not disrespecting them at all. Both of them are incredibly hot right now. I can't remember the last time Illusion lost a football wager and IMG is tearing up the hardwood.

Pinnacle should be rethinking their position...
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Old 02-04-06, 10:08 PM   #12
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Illusion is hot! I am hotter though cause he is betting Seattle
and Seattle is going to lose!!! Go Pittsburgh!! Bet is for
whatever Seattle is going to call not what the coin toss turns out
2 be. Maybe heads is the right way to go on this bet..
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Old 02-05-06, 04:13 AM   #13
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How is it possible, that the chances are not equal on a coin toss, which is 50/50 for sure....I mean c'mon, coin tossing is coin tossing....50/50....

Anways, isn't it sound a little silly to bet on a coin toss? It's like the casino red-black bet, just with a little more chance, and little lower odds...
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Old 02-05-06, 04:14 AM   #14
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Nah, Seattle is going to win!
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Old 02-05-06, 04:21 AM   #15
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Nah Pittsburgh is going to win!!!
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Old 02-05-06, 04:52 AM   #16
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How is it possible, that the chances are not equal on a coin toss, which is 50/50 for sure....I mean c'mon, coin tossing is coin tossing....50/50....
The bet isn't on the coin toss itself, but rather on the side called.

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Anways, isn't it sound a little silly to bet on a coin toss? It's like the casino red-black bet, just with a little more chance, and little lower odds...
Playing red/black roulette (or any other roulette bet other than 0-00-1-2-3) your expected loss is the same as if you were bet the outcome of the cointoss at approx. -111.8.
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Old 02-05-06, 05:25 AM   #17
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Sorry, you are right, I didn't read carefully the title of the topic


About the chances....to win a coin toss bet, isn't the chance of winning is 50% ?

In roulette (0-1-2-3), the chance of winning a red/black bet is 18/37= 48, 648% ? So why is the expected loss is the same in both?
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Old 02-05-06, 07:02 AM   #18
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Quote:
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About the chances....to win a coin toss bet, isn't the chance of winning is 50%?
Of course.

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In roulette (0-1-2-3), the chance of winning a red/black bet is 18/37= 48, 648% ? So why is the expected loss is the same in both?
In single zero roulette (37 number roulette), your expectation is 18/37 - 19/37 ≈ -2.70%.

If you place a bet on an event which occurs with 50% probability and risk roughly $105.71 to win $100 then your expectation is 0.5/1.0571 - .5 ≈ -2.70%.

Hence, in single zero roulette your expected loss is the same as your expected loss when betting the outcome of the coin toss at a ML of approx. -105.71.
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Old 02-05-06, 07:21 AM   #19
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Again you are right, I realised that the oddses for the coin toss are not 2.0 / 2.0
I played Will Hill coin toss game a few times, the oddses are 2.0 / 2.0 there, but there is a chance (1/32) for a "you lose no matter what u bet" result....
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Old 02-05-06, 07:49 AM   #20
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Quote:
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Again you are right, I realised that the oddses for the coin toss are not 2.0 / 2.0
I played Will Hill coin toss game a few times, the oddses are 2.0 / 2.0 there, but there is a chance (1/32) for a "you lose no matter what u bet" result....
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Old 02-05-06, 11:21 AM   #21
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I don't know if I buy into this but the coin used for the Super Bowl is said to be top heavy increasing the odds of heads being tossed.

Even if it were top heavy would that increase the odds of heads? I have no idea, maybe someone else does.
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Old 02-05-06, 11:45 AM   #22
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More unsubstantiated bullsh*t being propogated on the forums, as usual ............

http://pataky.net/SuperBowl.asp

I'm not saying yes/or no is good, but what amazes me is how many people take what they read as universal truth.
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Old 02-05-06, 02:56 PM   #23
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No, the situation is not THAT bad RickySteve I only played with that game with poker freeroll winnings
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Old 02-05-06, 06:24 PM   #24
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Tails never fails
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