[jjgold]

Is the running game, I am afraid they will control bal and run right through Pats and keep the ball away from them. This is the one thing holding me back from unloading on Pats.

[5 star bomb]

Giants 31

Pats 27

[NEP Dynasty]

JJ, don't even worry about it. This Giants team is overmatched. This is the best team in NFL history remember.

[5 star bomb]

JJ, don't even worry about it. This Giants team is overmatched. This is the best team in NFL history remember.

Best team in NFL History?

[NEP Dynasty]

Yea dickhead, thats what I said. A team that is going to go 19-0 is the best team in history, nothing to laugh about buddy.

[Cabo]

Best team in NFL History?

This WILL BE the best team in NFL history.

[NEP Dynasty]

Exactly. 5 Star, if it makes you feel better that I wait till Sunday around 10pm to make that claim, that is OK.

[rake922]

NEP Dynasty, what you predict for the final score

[ShamsWoof10]

I watched a replay of their game a few weeks ago and the Giants should have been beat by more actually....

The only thing that would scare me about the Giants is if most of you liked the Patriots!!!

[NEP Dynasty]

34-20 I'd say.

[rake922]

I watched a replay of their game a few weeks ago and the Giants should have been beat by more actually....

The only thing that would scare me about the Giants is if most of you liked the Patriots!!!

Explain why you say that

[ShamsWoof10]

Explain why you say that

Good question..

I don't think some of the things the Giants did in that game will be repeated... For starters I highly doubt the Pats give up another Kickoff return for a TD...

I also think "AT FIRST" the Giants will be able to run but I think "Bellacheat" will throw and often to look to jump on top of NY and force them to go away from the running game...

Lastly the conditions that day slowed the track down which helped NY... They had the lead and easily blew it on a slower track... In perfect condtions that Pats offense is going to look like a fast break NBA team...

[5 star bomb]

Yea dickhead, thats what I said. A team that is going to go 19-0 is the best team in history, nothing to laugh about buddy.

1985 Bears 38

2008 Pats 10

[NEP Dynasty]

1985 Bears 38

2008 Pats 10

LOL. Good one. Jimmy Mac putting up 38 on the 2007 Patriots..thats amusing.

[ShamsWoof10]

1985 Bears 38

2008 Pats 10

NOT ON THE PATRIOTS WORST DAY!!!

Comments like this missed some critical things like .."Seer" would be an NFL player in 1985...

WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO STOP RANDY MOSS ..DAVE DOERSON..? Yeah ....sure....

This year's Bengals would crush the 85' Bears! The players now are superior to the players then...

[NEP Dynasty]

NOT ON THE PATRIOTS WORST DAY!!!

Comments like this missed some critical things like .."Seer" would be an NFL player in 1985...

WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO STOP RANDY MOSS ..DAVE DOERSON..? Yeah ....sure....

Thank god someone else realizes how irrational 5 star is. Hah.

[BadNina]

Good question..

I don't think some of the things the Giants did in that game will be repeated... For starters I highly doubt the Pats give up another Kickoff return for a TD...

I also think "AT FIRST" the Giants will be able to run but I think "Bellacheat" will throw and often to look to jump on top of NY and force them to go away from the running game...

Lastly the conditions that day slowed the track down which helped NY... They had the lead and easily blew it on a slower track... In perfect condtions that Pats offense is going to look like a fast break NBA team...

Oh.My.Stars.

Shamsy is making sense to me.

[INVEGA MAN]

The biggest difference in these two teams:

1. coaching
2. quarterback
3. N.E. has 20 players with super bowl expierence and NYG
have 5. and dont think this isnt a big advantage for N.E.

[The Seer]

NOT ON THE PATRIOTS WORST DAY!!!

Comments like this missed some critical things like .."Seer" would be an NFL player in 1985...

Yeah, that would have been tough. I was only 14. But if you took me when I was 25 or so and put me in 1950s or 60s I may have been MVP of the league. I agree with what you're saying above. It's tough to compare.

[ShamsWoof10]

Yeah, that would have been tough. I was only 14. But if you took me when I was 25 or so and put me in 1950s or 60s I may have been MVP of the league. I agree with what you're saying above. It's tough to compare.

If you took you when you were 25 you wouldn't have to go back that far... You would throw Jack Lambert around like a rag doll.. I am guessing you would be stronger then most 1985 NFL players...

The other huge differance that no one mentions is today's athlete's are not only well oiled machines but they are more detailed...

For example: today's recievers have much better running form then in 1985 not to mention that one double move by T.O. would break the ankles of Dixon or Minnifield (top corners then)...

There is a reciever I met through my helmet business that holds camps for incoming recievers to teach them running form... They didn't do that much back then...

I know first hand this is a big deal... I video taped myself running and realized I didn't know how to run right... Once I improved my form people that beat me by four or five yards in the 100 were now getting beat by 3 or 4 yards.. That is a big turnaround... I'm still slow but but a faster slow..

[Sportsgirl]

I'm not disagreeing with you Shams, but don't you think the players of yore had more "heart" than the players nowadays?

[TexansFan]

1985 Bears 3

2008 Pats 40

Fixed it.

[isetcap]

Fixed it.

Absolutely not. There's nobody that's scoring 40 points on a defense that dominated the league like the 1985 Chicago Bears.

Let me put it simply. The Chicago defense of 1985 was at least as dominant as the New England offense of 2007. Perhaps you can argue that the 2007 New England defense is more sound than the 1985 Chicago offense but I'd see it as a close one.

[ShamsWoof10]

I'm not disagreeing with you Shams, but don't you think the players of yore had more "heart" than the players nowadays?

They may have but it's going to take more then heart for 6' 1" 185 pound Jack Lambert to hold off Seer NOT TO MENTION JAMAL LEWIS!!!

NO 50's, 60's, 70's, or 80's teams can beat any of today teams...

The kicking has even gotten much better then in 1985 where "Rich Karlis" was my idle... He called my house my sophamore year in HS and I was so star struck it was unreal...

Absolutely not. There's nobody that's scoring 40 points on a defense that dominated the league like the 1985 Chicago Bears.

Let me put it simply. The Chicago defense of 1985 was at least as dominant as the New England offense of 2007. Perhaps you can argue that the 2007 New England defense is more sound than the 1985 Chicago offense but I'd see it as a close one.

Let me put it to you SIMPLY! They dominated in 1985.. NO TODAY.. see the differance..? If not look at Webster Slaughter and T.O. and let me know if there is a differance... Oh wait I forgot you have "Gary Finick" to solve that problem...

[Sportsgirl]

They may have but it's going to take more then heart for 6' 1" 185 pound Jack Lambert to hold off Seer NOT TO MENTION JAMAL LEWIS!!!

NO 50's, 60's, 70's, or 80's teams can beat any of today teams...

The kicking has even gotten much better then in 1985 where "Rich Karlis" was my idle... He called my house my sophamore year in HS and I was so star struck it was unreal...

I'd still like to see the '75 Steelers (with updated equipment) play these Patriots. They may or may not win, but I betcha it's a good game. And watching Lambert put Brady to the turf just once would make my day.

[isetcap]

I'm not disagreeing with you Shams, but don't you think the players of yore had more "heart" than the players nowadays?

Obviously if were talking about a direct evaluation of capability between the 2 teams in question, it would be a laughable comparison. As with every other major sport, the athletes and their regimens are not even on the same playing field.

If the Chicago Bears of 1985 were to be reincarnated in the league as it is today, they would go 0-16, irregardless of how much "heart" they play with.

[Sportsgirl]

Obviously if were talking about a direct evaluation of capability between the 2 teams in question, it would be a laughable comparison. As with every other major sport, the athletes and their regimens are not even on the same playing field.

If the Chicago Bears of 1985 were to be reincarnated in the league as it is today, they would go 0-16, irregardless of how much "heart" they play with.

Interesting opinion stated as if it were fact.

[ShamsWoof10]

I'd still like to see the '75 Steelers (with updated equipment) play these Patriots. They may or may not win, but I betcha it's a good game. And watching Lambert put Brady to the turf just once would make my day.

Sweetie it's not about the equipment... it's about their bodies and knowledge of the game... The speed and strength not to mention an improvment in technology would make it basically IMPOSSIBLE for them to even compete...

Not only would they lose badly to the Patriots but they would lose badly to LSU! Dorresy would run right through Mike Webster (center for Steelers then)...

You want to make it obvious..? Post some comparison photos of yesterday's players vs. today's players...

To start how about posting pics. of Jack Lambert and Ray Lewis...

[USAPLAYER]

Go Pats! Eli is going to have a bad Game.

[Sportsgirl]

Sweetie it's not about the equipment... it's about their bodies and knowledge of the game... The speed and strength not to mention an improvment in technology would make it basically IMPOSSIBLE for them to even compete...

Not only would they lose badly to the Patriots but they would lose badly to LSU! Dorresy would run right through Mike Webster (center for Steelers then)...

You want to make it obvious..? Post some comparison photos of yesterday's players vs. today's players...

Oh, you did NOT just talk down to me, Shams. Without Google, I can probably name every player on the Steelers squads from the '70s and their positions.


Oh, and I still like to see that game.

And Mean Joe made the best Super Bowl commercial ever.

[ShamsWoof10]

Oh, you did NOT just talk down to me, Shams. Without Google, I can probably name every player on the Steelers squads from the '70s and their positions.


Oh, and I still like to see that game.

And Mean Joe made the best Super Bowl commercial ever.

HAHAHA the commercial with the kid was sweet... I think it was pepsi or coke where he threw the kid his jersey... That was cool...

Every Steeler..? Impressive..

[BadNina]

In some ways this reminds me of the days leading up the 1993 Sugar Bowl. Miami was heavily favored. Not many people thought Alabama could stay with them. They had the offense with a Heismann QB and those fast receivers. A dominating D. Shoot...even I was a bit surprised by the results when they stepped off the field.

[Sportsgirl]

HAHAHA the commercial with the kid was sweet... I think it was pepsi or coke where he threw the kid his jersey... That was cool...

It was Coke.

AND I know who Iron Mike is, er, was.

[Sportsgirl]

Every Steeler..? Impressive..

I was born in Pittsburgh, sweetie, to a family of Steelers fans going way back - shoot I came outta my moma swinging a terrible towel.

I am impressive in many ways