[Diddy]

[purecarnagge]

he's had a terrible year. Vegas is keying on him. Getting his picks at the correct line has to be done within 30 seconds.

your better off fading him.

[pavyracer]

He is not a doctor.

[Diddy]

Originally Posted by purecarnagge

he's had a terrible year. Vegas is keying on him. Getting his picks at the correct line has to be done within 30 seconds.

your better off fading him.

30 SECONDS?

So are the books, moving as soon as he releases?

or are his customers moving the lines with his plays?

having a bad year? meaning 2008?

how has he done in the past?

[Wrigley]

heard about him reading other forums

[20Four7]

Vegas is a subscriber like other people are. They are keying on him and it's causing havok with his selections. BTW he is not a real doctor. Although from all the bleeding from his picks he might need one this year.

[pavyracer]

His model is purely statistic.

He does not take into account:

1. Field Conditions.
2. Injuries
3. Emotional state of team/players.
4. Motivation
5. Pride

As an ex-player I can tell you that point spreads mean nothing when you play the game. On game day anything can happen. People are not machines where you can punch in numbers and get results.

[MoneySportsGuy]

Originally Posted by pavyracer

His model is purely statistic.

He does not take into account:

1. Field Conditions.
2. Injuries
3. Emotional state of team/players.
4. Motivation
5. Pride

As an ex-player I can tell you that point spreads mean nothing when you play the game. On game day anything can happen. People are not machines where you can punch in numbers and get results.

Where did you play pavy and what sport were you involved with?

[pico]

Originally Posted by pavyracer

He is not a doctor.

you beat me to it

[pico]

Originally Posted by purecarnagge

he's had a terrible year. Vegas is keying on him. Getting his picks at the correct line has to be done within 30 seconds.

your better off fading him.

what do you mean by that?

[pvcpipe]

i've heard he's had a bad year, but has pretty good career numbers. espn did a piece on him on the show "ESPN360," you can probably youtube it if you're curious.

[purecarnagge]

Originally Posted by picoman

what do you mean by that?

It means Vegas is a subscriber to his plays. When he makes the play the line moves 2-5 pts per game. He now releases his plays at value so say he has a 5 star play. at -7. Then he'll have a 4 star a 8 3 star 9 and 2 star at 10 or no play.

Basically, if he releases a play somebooks might turn there servers off for "maintance" or might purposesly do slow load times or move the line this is all before you can even get this in.

So basically you have less than 30 seconds to get this line. If you play with a local guy your prob ok. You will get your picks in on time. If you play with a online book its not worth it. He's had a terrible year and once again vegas is keying on him. Its also rumored that he's being paid to have a losing record this year. Thats just rumors though. But he's even addressed those rumors on his website before from what I've heard.

Anytime a rumor is addressed on a website I think there is something more involved there. I mean its a rumor why would you address it if you have nothing to hide... Anyways, I would avoid him. Just fade Brandon Lang instead, your better off that way.

[jjgold]

Had a hot streak for a while and people thought he could beat the games but like everyone else gave it all back plus more. He is a tout and a loser like the rest.

[raiders72002]

He took a beating. He won 41% of the time at the best lines. I made a killing fading him.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...highlight=fade

[Diddy]

how much does he charge for his picks?

[durito]

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[shasso]

Originally Posted by purecarnagge

ts also rumored that he's being paid to have a losing record this year. Thats just rumors though.

Err... If he can loose on purpose he can win also and get money.. so this doesnt make any sense

But maybe he he's threatened