[Doc JS]

Originally Posted by HAPPY BOY

I dont believe aliens have visited us, not yet anyways.

Not unless you're counting Dennis Rodman!

[BrentCrude]

OK,come on,we don't have aliens living amongst us that may want to cause us harm?Haven't you ever seen Clinton's advisor James Carvile that's on all the talking head political talk shows?Tell me he's not an alien.No way in hell could Hollywood with all their fancy makeup people ever make a more convincing alien.Then tell me that any acting school that could make a more mean alien than Carville? What a disgusting piece of crap.

[Willie Bee]

Is it really his physical appearance that has you thinking he's an alien Brent, or is it just that his opinions seem out of this world to you?

Wanted to offer up another theory as to why the sightings mostly seem to come from rural areas, but first let me say that by no means am I suggesting that some 'hilljack,' simple-minded Texan such as myself could ever think and reason on the same strategic level as these alien creatures. All I know is if I was in charge of the earth program for investigating life on other planets, I wouldn't fly my spaceships down Main Street, Planet X19, where millions of the life forms could see me, at least not during the initial stages of investigations. Instead, I'd probably start my observations and abductions out in the rural areas of Planet X19 that might offer less resistance and more secrecy. Such a theory, if I may be so bold, would also explain the sightings if they were US Government tests as well. I mean, if you're in charge of the Air Force testing programs, will you test the latest technology over a large metropolitan area where there might be 3,000,000 people with cameras that could endanger a program's secrecy, or would you test it over less densely populated areas?

[m3vr6]

Originally Posted by robzilla

I saw on CNN that 300+ people in a Texas town saw a UFO. what do you think?

I believe in Aliens, but I don't think they're here on earth. If you know anything about numbers you would agree as well. There are billions of galaxies in the universe and there are billions of solar systems within those galaxies and there are billions of stars within those solar systems and there are billions and billions of planets. and surely there exist alteast another planet that can sustained life.

[Teddy_KGB]

Good question. I'm not sure that the following story has something connection with aliens, but please read this, and if you have an acceptable explanation, please write it :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_pass_accident

[Stumpage]

I definitely agree with the majority here, in that there is life. The problem, as has been mentioned a few times, is the unimaginable distance between the stars. There's no doubt that at the very least, Light Speed travel is a must (On their part, whoever they would be) if contact were to occur. Even then, though, it's still a hell of a jaunt.

Consider that a human could make a round trip to Pluto in basically a day or so at Light Speed. Even at that ridiculous speed, it would still take just over 4 years just to get to the nearest Star to us (Proxima Centauri), assuming there are even planets to begin with in that system.

Again, it would have to be on their part currently, as even the fastest manned vehicle today would take over 30,000 years to arrive at Proxima.

[Dark Horse]

By our current scientific standards such distances may be impossible. But you need not go back more than 150 years for man to have access to no greater speed than a single 'horsepower'. If in that short span we have learned to travel faster than sound, surely more advanced cultures could have solved the puzzle of space travel before us. If we took modern science back 400 years to the Inquisition, they would have us burnt at the stake for witchcraft. Is it really that unimaginable that we could one day travel at the speed of thought?

[remmy358]

govt won't release the files to public i think that says it all

[Willie Bee]

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Is it really that unimaginable that we could one day travel at the speed of thought?

Going by the 'thought speed' of a few folks I've come across in my life, we've already achieved that, DH.

[Stumpage]

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Is it really that unimaginable that we could one day travel at the speed of thought?

Hopefully you're right DH. Apparently this is the latest project in terms of greatly increasing speed. Unmanned, but it's a start.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Longshot

[Dark Horse]

Originally Posted by Willie Bee

Going by the 'thought speed' of a few folks I've come across in my life, we've already achieved that, DH.

Our current concept is that we have to travel from point A to point B, which takes time. We have focused on traversing Space at ever greater speeds. Yet I could see future civilizations focusing not on Space, but on Time. That concept would not involve traveling from A to B, but being at A or being at B. In other words, Space would no longer be the challenge.

Perhaps some magnetic force would have to be involved. Picture a magnet at a certain distance from a nail. The stronger the magnet the greater the distance at which the nail 'responds'. When the nail begins to respond the magnetic force has bridged the space between the two objects.

[ShamsWoof10]

Originally Posted by Stumpage

Hopefully you're right DH. Apparently this is the latest project in terms of greatly increasing speed. Unmanned, but it's a start.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Longshot

Bro. this is like the Flinstones compared to "Electro-Magnetic Propulsion"...

Personally I think "Patents" are a bettor source then this Wikipedia sh*t but that's just me..

[Stumpage]

Originally Posted by ShamsWoof10

Bro. this is like the Flinstones compared to "Electro-Magnetic Propulsion"...

Personally I think "Patents" are a bettor source then this Wikipedia sh*t but that's just me..

Yeah, you're probably right Shams, but I guess it all comes down to what one believes humanity is capable of developing right now.....Or, as I'm sure would be right up your alley, what we are told is our present capability

[ShamsWoof10]

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Our current concept is that we have to travel from point A to point B, which takes time. We have focused on traversing Space at ever greater speeds. Yet I could see future civilizations focusing not on Space, but on Time. That concept would not involve traveling from A to B, but being at A or being at B. In other words, Space would no longer be the challenge.

I "THINK" you are refering to something like "worm holes"...

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Perhaps some magnetic force would have to be involved. Picture a magnet at a certain distance from a nail. The stronger the magnet the greater the distance at which the nail 'responds'. When the nail begins to respond the magnetic force has bridged the space between the two objects.

Fron my understanding you are just starting to touch on what is needed to eliminate G forces...

We only know what we are taught and we are NOT TAUGHT EVERYTHING!!!

From what I have come to understand the technology used in these covert air/water/space crafts is the exact opposite method that we are taught... We are taught that if you want to go forward you push against something and the reaction of that action will push you forward... When you walk... you push against the floor and the floor pushing back is the force used to go forward....

THIS IS OPPOSITE!!! When you want to go forward you push forward and the force pulls you forward... The more speed you gain the faster you can go... It's by far more efficient then the old traditionally taught "Flinstones" method all of you are so fixated on!

EXAMPLES of this used on earth... A humming bird flies into oncoming wind with ease... Salmon also can swim completely against current... Bubble Bee's move like humming birds where they can fly directly into wind...

This might make goofies like you guys go "hmmmm" but it makes others go.."find out how they do that sh*t and let's keep it between us"...

Originally Posted by Stumpage

Yeah, you're probably right Shams, but I guess it all comes down to what one believes humanity is capable of developing right now.....Or, as I'm sure would be right up your alley, what we are told is our present capability

HAHA Welcome to my alley "Stumpage" always good to hear from ya'

[area51steve]

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Phoenix good enough?



This was all over the news at the time. Many people saw it.

This can be easily explained. That night some type of military exercise was being conducted. What everyone saw was flares that were dropped by a military aircraft...

[ShamsWoof10]

Originally Posted by area51steve

This can be easily explained. That night some type of military exercise was being conducted. What everyone saw was flares that were dropped by a military aircraft...

YAAAAAAAP!!!

It's easy to explain things when you don't have to explain your explaintion...

Flares..? What is your explaintion based on..? Is it because they "said" there were exercises taking place that night...? I sure hope you got "flares" from something more then "they said they had exercises that night.."

Do those "HONESTLY" look like flares to you..?

[greek]

I Do Know That THERE Is Supposed To Be Some Kind Of Plot To Deceive The Populations In The Future Using Ufos , And Drawing Halograms In The Skies , Where People Will Believe Supernaturally Just Because They Saw Things With Their Own Eyes And In Reality It Will Be Man Made [ Govt Made]

[Ganchrow]

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Perhaps some magnetic force would have to be involved. Picture a magnet at a certain distance from a nail. The stronger the magnet the greater the distance at which the nail 'responds'. When the nail begins to respond the magnetic force has bridged the space between the two objects.

I'll just point out that the force exerted by a magnet does not act instantaneously, but rather propagates at the speed of light (regardless of the strength of the magnet).

[Willie Bee]

Originally Posted by Ganchrow

I'll just point out that the force exerted by a magnet does not act instantaneously, but rather propagates at the speed of light (regardless of the strength of the magnet).

I'd like to point out that in the time it took Ganch to think of his response, type it in the box and hit submit, I traveled from my kitchen outside to my workshop/personal liquor warehouse, retrieved a new bottle of Bailey's, turned the kettle on for the Mrs. to make her some hot chocolate to go with said Bailey's, fixed myself a glass of Weller's on the rocks and returned to my home PC where upon I read Ganch's response.

[Dark Horse]

Originally Posted by Ganchrow

I'll just point out that the force exerted by a magnet does not act instantaneously, but rather propagates at the speed of light (regardless of the strength of the magnet).

You mean I can't send my nail into outer space?

[Doc JS]

Originally Posted by Willie Bee

I'd like to point out that in the time it took Ganch to think of his response, type it in the box and hit submit, I traveled from my kitchen outside to my workshop/personal liquor warehouse, retrieved a new bottle of Bailey's, turned the kettle on for the Mrs. to make her some hot chocolate to go with said Bailey's, fixed myself a glass of Weller's on the rocks and returned to my home PC where upon I read Ganch's response.

But did you see any aliens?

[EaglesPhan36]

I live in TX where this happened. Biggest publicity stunt ever .. period.

[Dark Horse]

They're everywhere



F*cking reptilian

[Willie Bee]

Originally Posted by Doc JS

But did you see any aliens?

No, one of the regular deer that hangs around here tried to follow me into the workshop thinking I was getting ready to throw out some corn, but that was about it.

[thezbar]

The aliens have already arrived. They are the smarter ones who cannot be seen by the human eye. The "Citings" are just a government cover up to hide the truth.

[TexansFan]

Of course there are aliens. They are all over the country and most speak only Spanish.

[JBC77]

I don't believe in Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny, so no, I don't believe in UFOs.

Just show me a few pieces of undoctored video or film footage and I might change my mind. Until then it's an urban legend. Millions have claimed to bear witness to UFO's and not a single one has managed to capture documented evidence even with the coming of the digital era. Some even claim to have had rods shoved up their rectums by these little green men. It's a hoax boys.

It was woven into our culture years ago with the weather balloon at Roswell. It's pop culture, nothing more.

[Ganchrow]

I really dislike the phrasing of the question "Do you believe in aliens?" The usage of the word "believe" tends to put the theoretical question of the existence of extraterrestrial life on the same plane as the theoretical question of the existence of ghosts or werewolves.

There really are two separate issues at play:

1. Does intelligent life exist on other planets? Organizations such as SETI are attempting to answer this question through honest scientific inquiry. Personally speaking, I fully expect that there exists intelligent life on other planets but I'm aware of no hard evidence that would allow me to positively assert that hypothesis.
   
2. Have intelligent beings from other worlds visited Earth and do they continue to do so? In theory this question provides an excellent opportunity to test the first. If we could show that "otherworldly" intelligent life had visited Earth in the past (and/or were continuing to do so in the present) then this would naturally imply that intelligent life did exist on other planets. In practice, however, there's just no real hard scientific evidence to support visitation by extraterrestrials. This doesn't mean that it hasn't happened or won't at some point happen in the future, but simply that we currently lack credible scientific evidence in support of this thesis. This question is best thought of in a Bayesian manner ... if I were to be kidnapped by aliens tomorrow (or if I were to fall into coma during which time I were to imagine this had happened) then my degree of belief would likely be vastly altered without much effecting anyone else's.

[ShamsWoof10]

I don't really care what people's belief is... all I want is SOME basis behind what you believe instead of ..."just because I belief that"... There is NO basis for most of your explanations you're just winging them out there... Anyone can throw sh*t out there but having a reason why is a totally differant thing all together...

The ONE single thing that drives me F*CKIN' NUTS is (and most of you are guilty of this) you'll think the elite are out to get as much money for themselves as they can... When it comes to sh*t that actually has value like "TECHNOLOGY" you think the elite will NEVER hide anything like that from us... Your world revolves around "money" that is why most of you think this... You can NOT imagine what could be considered more valuable to them then that...

Can someone PLEASE explain to me why people think this way...???