[mofome]

Different class.

[isetcap]

It is obvious year after year.

[jdwars]

Auburn should have been in the BCS game in 2004. In a way, I think Oklahoma's performance (as opposed to Auburn) in the BCS Championship helped Florida get there in 2005 and LSU in 2006.

[mofome]

Auburn should have been in the BCS game in 2004. In a way, I think Oklahoma's performance (as opposed to Auburn) in the BCS Championship helped Florida get there in 2005 and LSU in 2006.

hard to believe aub goes undefeated in the SEC and doesnt get in.

[isetcap]

hard to believe aub goes undefeated in the SEC and doesnt get in.

Thanks, BCS.

[hawk 5]

Give us a fking playoff. Lets settle this on the field, it can be done.

[CHALKbreaker]

Mo: I totally agree that the SEC is in a class above ALL conferences.However; you have to admit USC would give ANY of those teams major problems. Just look how USC, under Carrol, has DOMINATED the SEC.

I sure would have LOVED to have seen USC vs either LSU of UGA in the championship. Sure would have beat that joke that mismatch that took place tonight.

[MJFtheGenius]

What reall sucks is most likely Ohiot st will get another chance at the national title next year, who will beat them in the big ten

[isetcap]

If The Big 10/11 keeps this up, they'll be the king of the Mid Majors soon. Maybe they can cash in on some point shaving scandals.

[5 star bomb]

Michigan whooped Florida, A average Wiscy team almost beat Tenn. I dont think the SEC is light years ahead of the Big 10, but I would agree its the better conference right now. However with Rich Rodrigues bringing a new offense to Michigan and the Illini using the spread offense the Big 10 wont be as much old school football. I think the Big 10 will be very strong in 2008/09 season

[mofome]

Mo: I totally agree that the SEC is in a class above ALL conferences.However; you have to admit USC would give ANY of those teams major problems. Just look how USC, under Carrol, has DOMINATED the SEC.

I sure would have LOVED to have seen USC vs either LSU of UGA in the championship. Sure would have beat that joke that mismatch that took place tonight.

yeah, ive said that i think USC and UGA are the two best teams. UGA and USC have recruited the best talent over the last 5+ years followed by the likes of LSU and UF. The sec recruits the best and thats not going to change any time soon. the SEC and USC will be the class of NCAA football for a while with some teams like wvu, ou, texas, oregon, osu having some nice teams that pop up in a title game or two when their schedules are weak. winning the sec should get a team into the title game each year.

[mofome]

Michigan whooped Florida, A average Wiscy team almost beat Tenn. I dont think the SEC is light years ahead of the Big 10, but I would agree its the better conference right now. However with Rich Rodrigues bringing a new offense to Michigan and the Illini using the spread offense the Big 10 wont be as much old school football. I think the Big 10 will be very strong in 2008/09 season

Michigan was losing with a few minutes left. Wisconsin was never winning vs a vols team that was without 3 starters, 5 players that play, and had a staff of lame duck coaches that have already agreed with other schools. wisc was one of the worst teams i watched in the major bowl games.

as for the future of the big-10, they have one team in the top 12 in recruiting so far in 08, they had zero teams in the top 10 in 07, they had one team (PSU) in the top 10 in recruiting in 06, and they had one team in the top 10 in recruiting in 05. i wouldnt say they're catching up all that quickly.

[5 star bomb]

Michigan was losing with a few minutes left. Wisconsin was never winning vs a vols team that was without 3 starters, 5 players that play, and had a staff of lame duck coaches that have already agreed with other schools. wisc was one of the worst teams i watched in the major bowl games.

as for the future of the big-10, they have one team in the top 12 in recruiting so far in 08, they had zero teams in the top 10 in 07, they had one team (PSU) in the top 10 in recruiting in 06, and they had one team in the top 10 in recruiting in 05. i wouldnt say they're catching up all that quickly.

Not just bc im an Illini fan but I really think they are headed i n the right direction with Zook. He is one of if not the best recruiter in the nation.Michigan is going to be a powerhouse and Ohio St will never go away

[mofome]

Not just bc im an Illini fan but I really think they are headed i n the right direction with Zook. He is one of if not the best recruiter in the nation.Michigan is going to be a powerhouse and Ohio St will never go away

well, he is not the best recruiter in the nation, but locksley is one of the best assistant coaches recruiters in the country. benn and davis did not commit to zook, fwiw.

[CHALKbreaker]

yeah, ive said that i think USC and UGA are the two best teams. UGA and USC have recruited the best talent over the last 5+ years followed by the likes of LSU and UF. The sec recruits the best and thats not going to change any time soon. the SEC and USC will be the class of NCAA football for a while with some teams like wvu, ou, texas, oregon, osu having some nice teams that pop up in a title game or two when their schedules are weak. winning the sec should get a team into the title game each year.

No question Mo...In the end it all comes down to recruiting, and who's recruiting the top notch athletes. USC just recruits TONS of talents out of the very rich CA high schools. The SEC is just loaded with top recruits too, top to bottom of the conference. Really a shame that we had a championship with just one elite team.

[mofome]

No question Mo...In the end it all comes down to recruiting, and who's recruiting the top notch athletes. USC just recruits TONS of talents out of the very rich CA high schools. The SEC is just loaded with top recruits too, top to bottom of the conference. Really a shame that we had a championship with just one elite team.

hell, look at some of USCs top players:

wr: (turner) Tennessee
wr: (vidal) new york
Qb: (booty) Shreveport, LA
te: (davis) ohio
rb (mcknight) River Ridge, LA
lb: (cushing) New jersey
lb: (rivers) floridas
s: (mays) washington

these are all 5 star recruits, starting for usc, that are from all over the country. this team recruits nationalls, its really amazing the talent they bring in. there is no telling what they pay, but its safe to say that they pay well.

[guitarjosh]

hell, look at some of USCs top players:

wr: (turner) Tennessee
wr: (vidal) new york
Qb: (booty) Shreveport, LA
te: (davis) ohio
rb (mcknight) River Ridge, LA
lb: (cushing) New jersey
lb: (rivers) floridas
s: (mays) washington

these are all 5 star recruits, starting for usc, that are from all over the country. this team recruits nationalls, its really amazing the talent they bring in. there is no telling what they pay, but its safe to say that they pay well.

I think mo has been

[5 star bomb]

I think mo has been

I dont know they have been caught with Bush, and who knows how much or what they are doing for Mcknight but if you were an elite fball player why not go to USC? Best place to go for the program, weather, and all the hunnies you want

[guitarjosh]

I dont know they have been caught with Bush, and who knows how much or what they are doing for Mcknight but if you were an elite fball player why not go to USC? Best place to go for the program, weather, and all the hunnies you want

They didn't get accused of paying Bush, a wanna be agent made claims of paying Bush's parents for future access to him. The NCAA hasn't ruled if USC should have known yet though.

[imgv94]

SEC is definitely the best conference top to bottom no doubt about it.

[The Seer]

I think mo has been

Mo is right on with everything he's said in this thread. I will never name names but know guys that have got Escalades, Navigators, fur coats, free tires and service, grades,$. I've personally gotten pocket $. $ is big because it can't be traced. It is normally handed to you by a 3rd party in a blank enevelope. Bush, White, and Leinhardt got plenty of $. One of the guys that recruited them also got kids enrolled with less than 2.0 GPAs and ACT scores in the teens plus $ when he was head coach at another school. Trust me, as a player and coach I've been in the middle of some of this stuff. Only took a few bucks for partying as a young player though and never influenced akid's decision whatsoever.

[Cee]

Mo is right on with everything he's said in this thread. I will never name names but know guys that have got Escalades, Navigators, fur coats, free tires and service, grades,$. I've personally gotten pocket $. $ is big because it can't be traced. It is normally handed to you by a 3rd party in a blank enevelope. Bush, White, and Leinhardt got plenty of $. One of the guys that recruited them also got kids enrolled with less than 2.0 GPAs and ACT scores in the teens plus $ when he was head coach at another school. Trust me, as a player and coach I've been in the middle of some of this stuff.

Doesn't really surprise me

[mofome]

Mo is right on with everything he's said in this thread. I will never name names but know guys that have got Escalades, Navigators, fur coats, free tires and service, grades,$. I've personally gotten pocket $. $ is big because it can't be traced. It is normally handed to you by a 3rd party in a blank enevelope. Bush, White, and Leinhardt got plenty of $. One of the guys that recruited them also got kids enrolled with less than 2.0 GPAs and ACT scores in the teens plus $ when he was head coach at another school. Trust me, as a player and coach I've been in the middle of some of this stuff. Only took a few bucks for partying as a young player though and never influenced akid's decision whatsoever.

first hand knowledge, thanks for sharing man, there is so much more that goes on than most of us know about. my uncle coached college football for 27 years, he doesnt share those stories because its against everything he stands for, but i know there is a lot going on. hell, look at chris rainey just a year ago, he was paid well before graduating hs.

[The Seer]

first hand knowledge, thanks for sharing man, there is so much more that goes on than most of us know about. my uncle coached college football for 27 years, he doesnt share those stories because its against everything he stands for, but i know there is a lot going on. hell, look at chris rainey just a year ago, he was paid well before graduating hs.

A couple of 20s on the weekend or something I can see but when an 18-21 year old gets handed keys or a couple of grand is a different story. I don't believe in that either. A kid in college at that age is not thinking about much but getting chicks and partying and stuff.
Also, I was in Memphis during the time of the Albert Means -Alabama scandal and personally know the people involved.

[mofome]

A couple of 20s on the weekend or something I can see but when an 18-21 year old gets handed keys or a couple of grand is a different story. I don't believe in that either. A kid in college at that age is not thinking about much but getting chicks and partying and stuff.
Also, I was in Memphis during the time of the Albert Means -Alabama scandal and personally know the people involved.

wow, means, lock, and those boys, that was all ugliness. you certainly have a lot of knowledge about the football world, The Seer. much respect.

[The Seer]

wow, means, lock, and those boys, that was all ugliness. you certainly have a lot of knowledge about the football world, The Seer. much respect.

Thanks. I think you got the recruiting world down better than me though. Much respect from here too.

[guitarjosh]

Mo is right on with everything he's said in this thread. I will never name names but know guys that have got Escalades, Navigators, fur coats, free tires and service, grades,$. I've personally gotten pocket $. $ is big because it can't be traced. It is normally handed to you by a 3rd party in a blank enevelope. Bush, White, and Leinhardt got plenty of $. One of the guys that recruited them also got kids enrolled with less than 2.0 GPAs and ACT scores in the teens plus $ when he was head coach at another school. Trust me, as a player and coach I've been in the middle of some of this stuff. Only took a few bucks for partying as a young player though and never influenced akid's decision whatsoever.

It makes you wonder what Florida is paying then. In the past year, they have gotten multiple players to decommit from places like USC and Notre Dame, and got 1 of USC's running backs to transfer.

BTW, are you the same Seer who called the USC blowout over Oklahoma a few years back?

[The Seer]

It makes you wonder what Florida is paying then. In the past year, they have gotten multiple players to decommit from places like USC and Notre Dame, and got 1 of USC's running backs to transfer.

BTW, are you the same Seer who called the USC blowout over Oklahoma a few years back?

No, that wasn't me.