[isetcap]

First Ballot NBA Hall of Fame.

[bigboydan]

I would tend to agree he should be one, however if he doesn't win an NBA championship. I do have to question if he will be a first ballot HOF'er though.

[jjgold]

1st ballot?

There should be no ballot, he is the greatest guard ever to play the game minus Mike Jordan

Best 6ft guard ever...no one even close second

[jjgold]

Never saw a guy bring it every night like it is his last game

unreal

[Doc JS]

he is the greatest guard ever to play the game minus Mike Jordan

Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson...just to name three.

[JimmyG]

I would tend to agree he should be one, however if he doesn't win an NBA championship. I do have to question if he will be a first ballot HOF'er though.

HOF should be about the individual not the team hes on..

Barkley, Malone, Iverson, Stockton all first ballot HOF;er IMO

[JBC77]

First Ballot NBA Hall of Fame.

I was thinking....gun toting thug of the year award.

I thought Denver would be more dominant when Allen arrived. In fact they seem slightly better than average. Let me see Iverson get somewhere in the playoffs....just once this decade. The guy hasn't even sniffed a title, not even a wiff, hasn't gotten close enough.

[JBC77]

NBA finals in 2001 (practically by him self)

Louiville.....I'll give you that, but it was a while ago. Hasn't been able to do it on his own again. Lets be honest, he didn't really have a shot in hell to bring home the bacon in the finals. One playoff run doesn't constitute first ballot hall of fame vote. Just my 2 cents man.

[MJFtheGenius]

ball hog, thank god he got out of Philly

[Roach23]

1st ballot?

There should be no ballot, he is the greatest guard ever to play the game minus Mike Jordan

Best 6ft guard ever...no one even close second

well said jj

[MJFtheGenius]

1st ballot?

There should be no ballot, he is the greatest guard ever to play the game minus Mike Jordan

Best 6ft guard ever...no one even close second

You're a fool if you really think that and you don't understand the game, the guy is a loser and a horrible defender. He plays the game the wrong way, don't get me wrong he has talent but he is a loser.

[MJFtheGenius]

and i don't want to hear everyone telling me he is a good defender because of all the steals he gets because that is nothing but Bullshiit. Most of the time he goes for the steal, does not get it and leaves his team in a 5v4 dis advantage. He gambles too much on defense. On top of that the guy is only 6 ft tall, to be a #2 guard int he NBA you have to be at least be 6'4 and have some thickness to you. He can't play the point guard position so now that leaves your team in another bad matchup because you have to play a real point guard and will most likely leave both players in you backcourt under 6'2. OVERRATED!!!

[Doc JS]

Of course AI is one of the greatest . . .

LK,

Let me preface this by saying I'm not a big AI guy. I'm just not. And I freely admit that colors my perception of AI. I'm a lot more of a Tim Duncan guy than I am an AI guy.

I'm sorry...I just don't see it.

I'll give him this: He plays his ass off every night (which is a helluva lot more than you can say about a lot of guys in the NBA) and for that I give him props. But ML Carr played his ass off too and I don't have him as one of the all time greats.

AI is a scorer. Pure and simple. He has to have the ball in his hands most of the time. He takes a ton of shots. He shoots a low percentage. And I don't think anyone has ever accused AI of "making those around him better". And while he did play for an NBA title, the Sixers got routed in that series. And yeah, there was that "Practice? We talking about practice??" diatribe which didn't sound like an all time NBA great to me.

So, what am I missing?

Doc

[MJFtheGenius]

pretty amazing isn't it. . .

It's almost impossible to win that way. Nothing but a loser

[MJFtheGenius]

Go back to school and learn how to read Lousiville because you can't comprehend. I did not mean loser like a thug I meant like loser as in he plays on teams that lose. I gave plenty of arguement in that he plays the game the wrong way and you can't win that way. He does not play defense the right way, he does not pass enough, he is too ball controlling, does not make people around him better, is a liablity with his size, not a high percentage shooter,and he's a thug!!!!!! Don't try to make a case when you only read one sentence of the 2 paragraphs I wrote cuz.

[jjgold]

Getting in hall has more to do with stats than winning in any sport

[Roach23]

can't imbed images here? lameo.

http://www.youtube.com/v/eGDBR2L5kzI

[MJFtheGenius]

I am not saying he should not be in the hall of fame, jj is right stats get you in the hall of fame. However as far as someone who should be admired as a basketball player Iverson is not that player at all. You can't win with the guy.

[mofome]

can't imbed images here? lameo.

http://www.youtube.com/v/eGDBR2L5kzI

you mean this?

[Roach23]

yup. didn't work for me

[mofome]

yup. didn't work for me

there is a link at the top of your reply box that says 'youtube'. just click it and put in your url.

[Roach23]

cool

[mofome]

cool

very cool roach. you on anything tonight?

[Doc JS]

your judging him as a person, and not as a player. . . . .

Pointing out that he scores his points by taking a LOT of shots, and that he shoots a LOW percentage, and has never been accused of making those around him better is NOT judging him as a person. It's judging him as a player.

I'm not a Kobe guy either, but he's a LOT closer to being a HOF'er than AI, IMO.

Doc