[rake922]

Regarding the A+ books, how much do you need to be in the black for them to say take a hike?

I'm sure alot of Mods have anecdotes on this..

Thanks

[prop]

No set answer here. Different at all books and at most A rated it will not be an amount but will be a management decision.

If you put down $200 on a 15 team parlay and hit you could win a lot more than someone who is beating the book at 58% over hundreds of bets or someone who is maxing bets on arbs using only soft lines etc. The parlay bettor who got lucky might be up heeps more but is less likely to get invited to leave etc.

[Justin7]

None of the A+ books will cut you off completely. They may limit you on props and teasers though.

On major markets (any game bet with limits of 3k or more), none of them will limit winners.

[pavyracer]

If you win way too much they give you stock certificates and they make you a partner if they are publicly traded.

[Thremp]

Originally Posted by Justin7

On major markets (any game bet with limits of 3k or more), none of them will limit winners.

I spot one that opens accounts with limits far far below 3k and I doubt will be raising limits for all their customers (So while true in actuality, its false in spirit) and another that blatantly has cut limits.

[SBR_John]

None will cut your limits unless you are using a line service and making big bets a few seconds before they change their lines. That pattern could get your limits cut even if you are not winning much.

Most books compare the closing line to the number the player gets to see if that player is someone they want to limit their exposure to.

[CrazyLou]

"How much profit does it take to get cut off?" (in reference to A+ books)

I don't know, but I hope I have this problem sometime soon.

[Justin7]

Originally Posted by SBR_John

None will cut your limits unless you are using a line service and making big bets a few seconds before they change their lines. That pattern could get your limits cut even if you are not winning much.

Most books compare the closing line to the number the player gets to see if that player is someone they want to limit their exposure to.

I forgot about that. If you bet steam, they will get annoyed. I had my account disabled at Oly until I agreed to call in "Dr. Bob" plays. That was a reasonable countermeasure though.

On the other hand, Oly also gave me higher limits on NFL for Sunday nights (for games for the following week), as long as I was originating.

[bigboydan]

Ladbrokes have cut limits and close a few players accounts. Then again I can't say I'm surprised that a Euro book would do that either.

[20Four7]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

Ladbrokes have cut limits and close a few players accounts. Then again I can't say I'm surprised that a Euro book would do that either.

The euro books will do that a lot quicker than the Oly's and Pinny's of this world. If you are a steam better you will get limited or at least warned quickly. I know of people who have had to agree NOT to bet steam or be asked to leave from Oly.

[greek]

wow i want that type of problem

[An0nym0us]

Some books will cut limits on their "reduced juice" option much sooner than their "standard juice" option.

For example 5Dimes advertise a $500 limit for "reduced juice" but will cut that to $50 when you start regularly winning (even if not betting just before line moves).

Of course, 5Dimes is only A, not A+, and (R)ecreational not (P)rofessional.

[Tchocky]

The real question is who here has been cut off and at what books and what were the circumstances. I agree with "crazyl". This is the kind of problem you want to have.

[chano]

I have been put on a delay at many books before my bet has been accepted. Then that was not good for them, so they had me call in ONLY.

[Helmut]

Originally Posted by An0nym0us

Some books will cut limits on their "reduced juice" option much sooner than their "standard juice" option.

For example 5Dimes advertise a $500 limit for "reduced juice" but will cut that to $50 when you start regularly winning (even if not betting just before line moves).

Of course, 5Dimes is only A, not A+, and (R)ecreational not (P)rofessional.

I won six limit bets in a row and the reduce juice was reduced to 50 max. It don't take much.

[jobee]

Books in my experience don't limit on one off profit, they profile users. If people are consistently taking on soft lines, they will be a net cost to the business and the easy thing to do is to limit them. A pro gambler will find even some of the bigger UK and European books limiting after 2 or 3 bets if they match a pro bettor profile.

I've not been limited at a A rated book SBR style, but I don't use them that much. Pinnacle is an absolute star in my view, they let their lines do the work for them and don't rely on cherry picking mug punters as clients.

[prop]

I'm pretty sure VIP was rated A+ here are one time?

[maritime]

About 2 years ago, I tried out Legendz, opened an account with about $500, went on a ridiculous hot streak, ran it up to about $9k, then they cut my max wager to $50. They said management labeled me as a "sharp." I cashed out (via Neteller back then) and haven't been back.

[MrX]

Originally Posted by Justin7

None of the A+ books will cut you off completely. They may limit you on props and teasers though.

On major markets (any game bet with limits of 3k or more), none of them will limit winners.

I was shown the door at BetJamaica betting only my own bets (no steam) and only on MLB sides. I still think that they are a great book and worthy of the rating, but your statement isn't quite true.

[WileOut]

Stick to the exchanges and don't you don't have to worry about limits or being kicked out.

[rake922]

Originally Posted by MrX

I was shown the door at BetJamaica betting only my own bets (no steam) and only on MLB sides. I still think that they are a great book and worthy of the rating, but your statement isn't quite true.

Then why'd they cut you off? you're exactly what we need so share your experience of what happened.

[MrX]

Originally Posted by rake922

Then why'd they cut you off? you're exactly what we need so share your experience of what happened.

They just didn't want the kind of bets that I was making. I was betting the limit on MLB sides, mostly dogs. Scotty wrote me personally and said they were cutting my limits to $1000 but that I was welcome to play at thegreek(20-cent lines) at higher limits.

I made a few more bets at the 1k limit and Scotty told me on a phone call that they didn't want my action any more. He was very courteous and offered to transfer my funds to thegreek. When I declined, he had my funds sent to Neteller in about 3 minutes.

They were always presented as a recreational book. Their MLB lines were soft and the limits were pretty low to begin with. I really don't blame them for not wanting the action as they were definitely taking the worst of it.

[purecarnagge]

Here is my question. What is the difference between betting at Betjam and Thegreek? Same company same management? Greek gets lines up faster etc.

Just don't see why they same ownership would want you to transfer to another book they own and continue to play there instead of over here persay.

[MrX]

Originally Posted by purecarnagge

Here is my question. What is the difference between betting at Betjam and Thegreek? Same company same management? Greek gets lines up faster etc.

Just don't see why they same ownership would want you to transfer to another book they own and continue to play there instead of over here persay.

Thegreek had 20-cent MLB lines, BetJ had a dime-line.

[Santo]

Edit: What he said.

[SPECULATOR 13]

Originally Posted by WileOut

Stick to the exchanges and don't you don't have to worry about limits or being kicked out.

AMEN!!!WILLIE BABY.

[Patrick McIrish]

Originally Posted by MrX

Thegreek had 20-cent MLB lines, BetJ had a dime-line.

I don't think that has much to do with it, just happened to be baseball season at the time. I say that because I personally know that they will ask you to take your play to Greek during football season as well. Could be any time of the year. BetJM is designed more for recreational players, the Greek is better suited to take sharp action. Not unusual at all for Scotty to send you to Olympic regardless of what season it is.

[rake922]

Everyone is being vague....

20k? 40k? whats the breaking point

[Lucas]

Originally Posted by rake922

Everyone is being vague....

20k? 40k? whats the breaking point

because question does not allow better answer
rating and limits are not much correlated
big UK bookies /ladbrokes, bet365/ limit you with win under 20K

so will most US if you bet in style they do not like, as plenty before me said, limits depend more on your style; if you are the rare case of esp bettor, who takes -7.5 where -7 is available elsewhere and you win big, you will maybe have no problems; but bad news for you is that probably you will not be lucky in long term

bookies that do care less are marked as pro and they are not only A bookies, it is for example jazzsports and exchanges, who are below A