12-26-07, 09:42 PM
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What C or D Rated Books Do You Use?
What books do you use that have been paying? JJ no need to post that you only play with A rated books. Going through the rating guide there are a bunch of C rated books that I really don't hear about.
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12-26-07, 09:47 PM
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Simple rule of thumb that I follow...
Jack off to women that are A's or above , lose money to books that fall under the same criteria..
Worked well so far.
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12-26-07, 09:57 PM
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Sportsbook.com family
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12-26-07, 10:40 PM
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Skybook is the lowest rated book that I regularly have funds at. I'll keep enough for 2-5 bets once it hits 6 bets or so I'll cash out back down to 2. There rated B- but even they were rated lower I still used them.
TradeSports i'll use on occasion for future bets.
Hasna and WagerWeb are two that I've used a bit and would consider using again but would not keep much post up at either.
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12-26-07, 11:25 PM
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none because I am bright
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12-26-07, 11:33 PM
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Lazerwager and Justbet
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12-27-07, 01:18 AM
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TradeSports (SBR rated C+) is probably the only "C type rated book" I'll be using in the near future. The 4% commission is pretty damn good, and I know I'll never get limited there at all either. Not to mention I know my funds are safe.
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12-27-07, 01:19 AM
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Lazer is D+ I think and plenty of risk there. JustBet is a B+ book.
Of course anyone on here that is playing at sportsbook.com already knows the many dangers. As long as players understand the risks of losing their bankrolls to fraud then no problem. Its like investing in a D rated bond for a little higher return.
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12-27-07, 01:21 AM
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i play free contests at oddsmaker, but i'll never give them my money.
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12-27-07, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SBR_John
Lazer is D+ I think and plenty of risk there.
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I do concur with you to a degree in regards to Lazerwager John. However, the only thing I will give them is when Sexywagers closed up shop. They paid everyone and didn't stiff anyone. I'm not saying that the same thing will happen this time around with Lazerwager or not, but it does give a bit more credibility to this book IMO.
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12-27-07, 01:45 AM
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i have had an account for several years at betus and gotoentertainment. they both offer a few things that i can't get elsewhere. i have had payouts from both and both have me collared but they have paid .
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12-27-07, 01:49 AM
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wasting time at SBR since 2007
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sportsinteraction
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12-27-07, 05:22 AM
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'Where will Timmy T be in 5 years?
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I have an active account at royal. I have accounts at lazer and others but they are not active.
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12-27-07, 05:55 AM
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Currently Lazerwager, BETUS, SIA etc...
I maybe walking on a thin line, but I've done my share of C's and D's and still haven't got stiffed. I feel it's worth the risk and reward to take some nice +EV bonuses time to time at lower rated and new books. I do my research and avoid outright scam "deposit only" books. Of course, I deposit only money i'm willing to lose if the worst scenario happens. Only do high deposits (more than a grand or two) at rock solid A books.
Lazerwager just payed me $1500 in less than 24h (Neteller) last week, and 95% of that money was generated from their free contest. Only ever have deposited $50 in that book. I understand the potential risks involved with a new start-up D+ rated book, but for me they have been great.
Last edited by juuso; 12-27-07 at 05:58 AM.
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12-27-07, 09:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboydan
I do concur with you to a degree in regards to Lazerwager John. However, the only thing I will give them is when Sexywagers closed up shop. They paid everyone and didn't stiff anyone. I'm not saying that the same thing will happen this time around with Lazerwager or not, but it does give a bit more credibility to this book IMO. |
Did they get an upgrade at that time for there honesty.?
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12-27-07, 09:20 AM
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Oh play at Tradesports, good book
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12-27-07, 09:43 AM
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I learned my lesson the past few years with subpar books. All 10 of my Books are B- or better, with one exception. I still have some money at Betmania (much improved Book IMO), but once I collect or arb it out--I'm sticking with 100% quality. That's my '08 resolution, B- or better!
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12-27-07, 12:30 PM
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My Cougar Wears Two Pearl Necklaces
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Which method do you like to be executed with?
A. Firing squad
B. Lethal injection
C. Hanging
D. Electic chair
E. Beheading
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12-27-07, 02:11 PM
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Why would anyone play with a C or D rated sportsbook.....
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12-27-07, 02:21 PM
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I have a friend that's been waiting over 2 weeks for a payout of $2k from SIA.
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12-27-07, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by chano
Did they get an upgrade at that time for there honesty.?
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Nope... I feel the D+ rating is fair for this book based on how new they are. I'm just merely saying that is something that people need to keep in mind when considering playing there is all.
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12-27-07, 03:41 PM
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Betting Express
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12-27-07, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by eric dy
Why would anyone play with a C or D rated sportsbook.....
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If you can't think of some reasons why, you probably aren't trying hard enough.
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12-27-07, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MrX
If you can't think of some reasons why, you probably aren't trying hard enough.
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Obviously because many of them are easy to beat (like Sportsbook.com). But now the risk of them defaulting/stealing has increased significantly. So now it comes down to a basic reward vs risk scenario. To me, it's a different ballgame today. I look for A and B Books with weaknesses in certain areas, whether it be props or lines or whatever. If I win too much, I expect to be paid when booted out.
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12-27-07, 04:12 PM
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Personally, I've never used a book under a B+. But I have no trouble understanding why many do so.
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12-27-07, 04:32 PM
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Lazer is the only one for me.
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12-27-07, 05:47 PM
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In the early years new books had a first two failure rate of around 75%. In the last few years its more like 95%.
Playing at a new book is kind of like playing musical chairs. You need to get in and get out before the music stops playing. As long as players know the risks like Doug, who has probably played in every new book there ever was, then all is good. Just be careful not to fall in love with them and over stay because the music almost always stops before two years.
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12-27-07, 06:04 PM
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They have been giving away a ton of money with that Carlo contest, I'm not sure how they can afford to give away over 10k a week pretty frequently, but guys are getting paid their withdrawals.
I wouldn't suggest a huge chunk of BR over there, to be honest.
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12-27-07, 06:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SBR_John
In the early years new books had a first two failure rate of around 75%. In the last few years its more like 95%.
Playing at a new book is kind of like playing musical chairs. You need to get in and get out before the music stops playing. As long as players know the risks like Doug, who has probably played in every new book there ever was, then all is good. Just be careful not to fall in love with them and over stay because the music almost always stops before two years.
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That's why Books need to wait at least 2 years before getting a B or better rating. You can't give a new book a high rating because they're feeding you ad dollars.
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12-27-07, 06:40 PM
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My problem with most of the A, B books has been slow to get lines up. Lack of teaser/parlay options. Lack of prop bets.
The other books that are lower rated has more options in many cases, they offer better bonuses, they are just slow to payout. I actually have a small balance at Betus and they took 4-6 weeks to pay me last time. ( I was pissed then, but now I'm expecting that, and will cash out if I ever get my 100.00 dep to 500. )
I also carry a balance at Skybook, but skybook has limited prop bets, the 1/2 is nice, but kinda sucks during basketball season. Also, They don't put out ML on anything that is around -600 higher.
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12-27-07, 06:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HedgeHog
That's why Books need to wait at least 2 years before getting a B or better rating. You can't give a new book a high rating because they're feeding you ad dollars.
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12-27-07, 09:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eric dy
Why would anyone play with a C or D rated sportsbook.....
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Better bonus. I've played at a handful of C books and never had a problem getting paid.
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12-28-07, 02:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robmpink
Better bonus. I've played at a handful of C books and never had a problem getting paid.
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"yet" I think is the key word. I hope you never have issues and wish you luck but this forum at times has been riddled with issues from books that are not A books. Again I hope you never have an issue but be conscious as before I went to a local I had some issues with C books which is what led me to this site to research...
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