[mofome]

[bigboydan]

I wouldn't put it past an owner signing a women to play on their team from a publicity gimmick at some point. After all it did happen in the NHL during the 1990's when Manon Rheaume started for the Tampa Bay Lightning in an exhibition game in 1992.

[ritehook]

In 1968, as a publicity stunt, the old ABA Kentucky Colonels signed Penny Anne Early for one game. I think she was in the game for a few minutes.

Penny was America's first licensed female jockey. Never got to ride, tho, at that time, as the male jockeys boycotted her. She did, later, have a brief riding career. The female jockeys around today owe a debt to Penny.

I knew her in the early 90s. A fiery gal with a lot of courage, she was then working as a pony girl at the Southern Calif racetracks. Very down to earth, and could swear like a sailor. I used to tell her she must have Tourette's Syndrome, the way the profanity streamed out of her. But an attractive women - she probably had too many curves to be a great rider.

I think Penny is now retired and living in Oregon. I know she once told me she'd like to open a riding academy out in the country.

[Wheell]

No. Not as a regular.

[mofome]

yeah i doubt any woman would be good enough to be a regular, but even like a legit 10 day contract. girls basketball is better than it used to be. c parker down at tn is a nice player.

[rjt721]

I don't know, but there has to be a broad somewhere that's better than Sean Marks. Or half the players on the Knicks, for that matter.

[Thremp]

No. Not even close. There isn't a woman who'd make the roster at a big time college program. This is like comparing women across many sports. UNC would probably cruise through a women's all-world team.

Women are so far inferior athletically it makes the comp laughable.

[mofome]

No. Not even close. There isn't a woman who'd make the roster at a big time college program. This is like comparing women across many sports. UNC would probably cruise through a women's all-world team.

Women are so far inferior athletically it makes the comp laughable.

so you think the worst player on teams like seton hall, mich, prov, baylor, ore st....would all smash candice parker one on one?

[Thremp]

so you think the worst player on teams like seton hall, mich, prov, baylor, ore st....would all smash candice parker one on one?

Does this have any bearing on what you originally asked or what I said?

Put the straw man down and step away.


In addition one on one is a v poor example. One on one favors slashers and good on the ball defenders. There is no help defense (think what made Scottie Pippen good), passing, etc etc. So in addition to being completely unrelated, it would have little bearing on who would be better on a roster.

[mofome]

Does this have any bearing on what you originally asked or what I said?

Put the straw man down and step away.


In addition one on one is a v poor example. One on one favors slashers and good on the ball defenders. There is no help defense (think what made Scottie Pippen good), passing, etc etc. So in addition to being completely unrelated, it would have little bearing on who would be better on a roster.

what are you talking about? it has everything to do with what you said. you said there isnt a woman that could make a roster at any big time program. you think parker is worse than every player on those teams i mentioned? you think no woman would ever be good enough to play on that level? you saying unc would cruise through some womans all-world team, thats fine, but i didnt ask about a team playing each other, i said just one stand out player that could make a roster.
one on one is different, of course. a male should be able to dominate much more in a one on one setting than in a team setting where you can gameplan for a players strengths and weaknesses.

i think c parker could make the terps mens team right now. That has everything to do with what you said.

[2Pac]

No.

The best WNBA player would lose to the worst NCAA player 1 on 1, based on pure talent.

Women are not the same as men physically. More fat, less muscle for childbirth purposes.

Who knows how our species will evolve, though?

[katstale]

Some of you guys are more geeks than jocks (not saying that's a bad thing), but women do not play men's basketball. The politically correct world in which we live would not have you understand this fact. The "basketball" they use is closer to the size of a soccer ball than it is a men's basketball.

ANY, middle of the road high school boys basketball team (playing with "regulation" equipment and rules) would defeat any WNBA team. All day, every day. Period.

[durito]

ANY, middle of the road high school boys basketball team (playing with "regulation" equipment and rules) would defeat any WNBA team. All day, every day. Period.

While I will agree with most that no women will likely ever play legitimately in the NBA, this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard since my father thought he could be Chris Evert at Tennis in the 1980's.

[WileOut]

durito I agree with katstale. This is because of the physicality that the boys at the high school level play with as opposed to the women in the WNBA. Each player on the boys high school team would be far stronger than the women players and far more aggressive and physical. In a typical boys high school basketball team, probably 35%-50% (maybe even more?) of the players can dunk. In the entire WNBA it is maybe 5 in the entire league that can dunk. And that is with a small ball. Maybe one could dunk a regular sized basketball.

Also, using a regular basketball would completley throw off the women shooters.

[WileOut]

durito, in the 2006 WNBA all-star game, Michelle Snow became the second WNBA player to dunk.

[Doug]

Małgorzata Dydek (born on 28 April 1974 in Poznań, Poland), known as Margo Dydek in the United States, is an international professional basketball player. At least 7'2" tall, she is famous for being one of the tallest active professional female basketball players in the world. She currently plays the center position for the Connecticut Sun in the WNBA.

Personal

Dydek started playing basketball at age 12 when she was 5ft-11in (180 cm). She considers Magic Johnson to be her basketball role model. Dydek was 55 cm (21.7in) tall at birth. Dydek speaks Polish, French, Spanish, English, and Russian. Her other nicknames include "Large Marge" "Duia-Fense!" and "Ptys'".

WNBA career

Standing at 2.18 m (7'2"), Dydek is the tallest player in WNBA history, and stands even taller than Shaquille O'Neal.

Dydek made her first trip to the United States in May of 1998 for WNBA pre-draft camp. She made her American national television debut on NBC's The Tonight Show with Jay Leno on June 12, 1998. Dydek was drafted 1st overall in the 1999 WNBA Draft by the Utah Starzz.

On April 16 2005, during the 2005 WNBA Draft, the San Antonio Silver Stars traded Dydek to the Connecticut Sun in exchange for the Sun's first-round draft pick, Katie Feenstra from Liberty University.

European career

Dydek played for Olimpia Poznań from 1992 to 1994, before playing for Valenciennes Ochies in France from 1994 to 1996. She then moved to Spain and played for Pool Getafe from 1996 to 1998, and moved back to Poland to play for Foto Porta Gdynia starting with the 1998-99 season. She continued to play with the club through several sponsorship changes; since then, the club has taken the names Polpharma and Lotos.

In 1999-2001, she averaged 18.5 points and 10.7 rebounds for Gdynia in FIBA Euroleague play (note that the men's competition of the same name is operated by a different body). She was named Most Valuable Player of the Polish League Finals of the 1999-2000 season. She was also named the best female basketball player in Europe by the Italian sports magazine La Gazzetta dello Sport. Dydek was chosen as Poland's Sports Woman of the Year and has long been a member of the Polish National Team. She helped lead Gdynia to runner-up finishes in the FIBA Euroleague in 2002 and 2004.

Vital statistics

* Position: Center
* Height: 7 ft-2 in (2.18 m)
* College: Akademia Wychowania Fizycznego (University School of Physical Education), in Wrocław. (Polish)
* Team: Connecticut Sun
* National Team(s): (12), Olimpia Poznan' (Poland), Valenciennes Ochies (France), Pool Getafe (Spain), Fota Porta / Polpharma VBW Clima / Lotos VBW Clima / Lotos Gdynia (Poland)

[durito]

durito, in the 2006 WNBA all-star game, Michelle Snow became the second WNBA player to dunk.

When i was 19 I could dunk a basketball (and if i worked at it i'm sure I could again). I don't see how that reflects on my abilities as a basketball player at all (i was terrible).

The WNBA teams are fundamentally sound, they would destroy most high school teams.

[betplom]

I could NEVER dunk a basketball until I hit my 40's, now I can do it effortlessly, I just use a ladder. Took me a while to figure it out after all these years.

[Cee]

While I will agree with most that no women will likely ever play legitimately in the NBA, this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard since my father thought he could be Chris Evert at Tennis in the 1980's.

[LT Profits]

There has already been a female in the NBA...Dennis Rodman!

Sexy

[Thremp]

mofome,

Your one on one comp sucks. Take Ben Wallace for example. Is he not valuable? But from pure speculation he's missing almost everything that makes for a good one on one basketball player. Do you understand now?

If you're going to raise questions/arguments please have them make sense even in theory esp when its obv to everyone else that women are going to get destroyed one on one (I don't really know anything about one on one or the ability at it of end of bench college guys v c parker so I'm not going to speculate on that front.)

[WileOut]

When i was 19 I could dunk a basketball (and if i worked at it i'm sure I could again). I don't see how that reflects on my abilities as a basketball player at all (i was terrible).

The WNBA teams are fundamentally sound, they would destroy most high school teams.

My point is that the difference between athletic abilities of the boys high school team and the WNBA team would be astronomical. Athletic ability is half the battle in basketball, look at Ben Wallace.

Not just strength either. The speed of the players. Its just not close, the high school team would run the WNBA team out of the gym in the first quarter. Their would be no contested shots as the high schoolers with 40+ vertical jumps effortlessly jumped and got clear shots routinely. Whereas the WNBA players would have every other shot blocked. I just don't see how it would even be close at all.

No point in arguing about it though, it won't ever happen.

[mofome]

mofome,

Your one on one comp sucks. Take Ben Wallace for example. Is he not valuable? But from pure speculation he's missing almost everything that makes for a good one on one basketball player. Do you understand now?

If you're going to raise questions/arguments please have them make sense even in theory esp when its obv to everyone else that women are going to get destroyed one on one (I don't really know anything about one on one or the ability at it of end of bench college guys v c parker so I'm not going to speculate on that front.)

you said there isnt a woman alive that would make the roster of a big time program. i do not agree. the reference to a one on one game was just a question, not a point. dont confuse the two.

[mofome]

I could NEVER dunk a basketball until I hit my 40's, now I can do it effortlessly, I just use a ladder. Took me a while to figure it out after all these years.

[durito]

My point is that the difference between athletic abilities of the boys high school team and the WNBA team would be astronomical. Athletic ability is half the battle in basketball, look at Ben Wallace.

Not just strength either. The speed of the players. Its just not close, the high school team would run the WNBA team out of the gym in the first quarter. Their would be no contested shots as the high schoolers with 40+ vertical jumps effortlessly jumped and got clear shots routinely. Whereas the WNBA players would have every other shot blocked. I just don't see how it would even be close at all.

No point in arguing about it though, it won't ever happen.

You said "ANY, middle of the road high school boys basketball team". Outside of the top few high school teams with the top recruits, the athletic talent in high school isn't anywhere near as good as you think it is. There aren't 10,000 high schoolers with 40+ vertical jumps.

You argument is proven false when you see how the international teams beat the US teams in international competition. Being bigger, stronger, and faster (and I think you are vastly overestimating the edge a bunch of high school boys have here over professional athletes, even if they are women) is not as important as solid basketball fundamentals.

I don't see how you can say they would get all their shots blocked. If that was the case tons of NBA players would have never had careers (small guys that can't jump, like Steve Kerr, etc)

[mofome]

just to clarify some things, the vols womens team beats mens high school teams all the time.

[BrentCrude]

I just can't watch any level of womens basketball because even when a 3 pointer is made,it looks like a guy with .25 blood alcohol driving around a windy mountain pass.They shoot from the hip,shoot so unorthodox and pass the same way and it's like watching a rugby scrum for 20 minutes out of each game.The womens upper body strength just isn't there.They can run fast enough and that's where the problem is where they can get their body to weakly thrown passes and such.

I will say this about women.There are allot more women fast pitch softball pitchers than mens fastpitch pitchers and even though the best men are better than the best women,they are razor close.That sort of shoots down my theory of womens upper body strength so maybe the best womens fastpitch players should go out for basketball instead.


Some broad by the name of Ila Borders pitched in the independent Northern Baseball league a few years ago when ex pros like Darryl Strawberry and Jose Conseco's brother played and she got rocked every time she made an appearance.Bill Veek's kid owns a team in that league and he got her hired as an affirmative action,we are women we are strong publicity stunt to get all the liberal democrat lezbos out to the ball park.

[Doug]

I'd have to think some freak like "Large Marge" at 7'3" or so would have the best chance.

Where the Hell do you find a 7-3 female ?

[Thremp]

Brent,

Look into men's competitive fast pitch leagues and see how the women would stack up there. Again it isn't even close.

[mofome]

Who really cares.

you?

[Doc JS]

Will there ever be a female good enough to make an NBA roster?

As someone else in this thread has already said, "ever" is a long time.

But aside from an Eddie Gadel publicity stunt, no. I do not think that I will live long enough to see a female on an NBA roster - even as a 12th man...er I mean woman!

Doc

[katstale]

just to clarify some things, the vols womens team beats mens high school teams all the time.

Credibility in this forum forever destroyed, newb. What a fool statement--for just more logical reasons than I can list (some have already been put out here). So, rather than take the time to list them all, I will just include the quote I recieved today from the sports editor (John Adams) of the local Knoxville News when he was queried concerning your ridiculous assertion:


"Of course, they've never played a boys' high school team, much less beaten one. They practice against some male students, that's probably where somebody got that idea.
John"

pwnd

[isetcap]

katstale is most correct concerning this topic. I will clarify the position by stating that it would take a quality high school boy's team to consistently defeat a wnba squad. There is no D1 men's college team that would be considered inferior to any wnba team.

[MJFtheGenius]

just to clarify some things, the vols womens team beats mens high school teams all the time.

I don't believe it