[SBR_John]

Giants getting 14.5 points at home? hmm

I'm waiting for that Dallas Washington line. I could see Dallas playing their starters in the 1st qtr but that would be all. So what could this line be; Wash -6 -7.5 -9 -10? (Im all over wash)

[mofome]

jags at +4 looks tempting, next week will be a hard one to cap.

[SBR Lou]

Giants getting 14.5 points at home? hmm

Already hammered Pats -14 a few hours ago, made my bed with NE and going to lay in it. I wrote my reasoning in the NFL forum.

[SBR_John]

Yea I will have to go read it. With both teams having nothing to gain I could see your reasoning of going with the Pats to clean up all those records passing, passing tds, most by a wr and the crown jewel the 16-0 season. But still... if there is bad weather it will be a tough cover. NY is not gonna get blown out at home without a fight.

[mofome]

Yea I will have to go read it. With both teams having nothing to gain I could see your reasoning of going with the Pats to clean up all those records passing, passing tds, most by a wr and the crown jewel the 16-0 season. But still... if there is bad weather it will be a tough cover. NY is not gonna get blown out at home without a fight.

tell that to the vikings.

[BuddyBear]

NY is not gonna get blown out at home without a fight.

hmm....I think you need to rethink this a little bit more SBRJohn. NYG have been getting blown out routinely at home this year against much lesser competition: Green Bay (22 pt loss), Dallas (11 pt loss), Minnesota (24 pt loss), and Washington (12 pt loss).

To have a team that is 10-5 and playoff bound and have 4 double-digit losses at home is somewhat shocking and probably a record for a team with this many wins. Based on this alone, the 14 pt spread is justifiable.

Now, situationally, you have to give the edge to NE. Neither team has anything to play for per se since their playoff spots and seeding are secure; however, NE does have a perfect season on the line and that should be cause for extra motivation.

That being the case, I expect NYG will come out very motivated for this game. One oher thing to consider, I really expect NE to come out and play very uptight. I think all the talk and focus this week will be on the undefeated season. I think with NYG securing a playoff spot, there will be less pressure on them and I wouldn't be surprised if they had a terrific game given they have nothing to gain or lose from this game. The past 6 games or so NE has not looked as sharp as they were earlier in the year. Struggling with teams like Baltimore, Philadelphia, and NYJ & Miami (to some extant) makes me think the Patriots are vulnerable. I agree this is a big spread and NYG is worth a look.

[SBR Lou]

Expect Moss to be used as a decoy early and often. Their strategy will be quick efficient high percentage passes. The Giants pass rush is respectable, that will create problems should Brady force it down the field as much as vs Miami. He won't be taking his time.

Thing is, barring the clown weeks where Moss catches every long strike under the sun, the slow and steady method of play helps NE find the endzone more.

Moss will command plenty attention from the defenders, that's why this game has Wes Welker and Dante Stallworth written all over it. I almost wonder if, with the game easily in hand, New England forced the ball excessively purposely, to throw the Giants off their trail for the next week. Maybe that's over-analyzing it.

Pats by 17, worst case scenario lands exactly on 14, but if the games outcome is at least dictated in the second half, Giants have no reason to play full speed and even if the Patriots bench players I'd take Matt Cassell over fatass Jared Lorenzen in a heart beat.

[LT Profits]

To have a team that is 10-5 and playoff bound and have 4 double-digit losses at home is somewhat shocking and probably a record for a team with this many wins.

And how about the fact that before the Washington game last night, ZERO of the Giants' 10 wins had come vs. a team that is currently over .500! With the Skins winning to go to 8-7, make that ONE out of 10 wins now.

Yet, the Giants are assured of a five seed, so they will be at Tampa Bay in the first round, which is actually a winnable game.

[LT Profits]

I don't like the Jags at all next week mofone, as Houston will have all the motivation. I actually think that the Jags are the only team in the NFL with a chance to beat New England right now, but they have absolutely nothing to play for next week and will be better served not getting any of their regulars injured. On the other hand, the Texans will be motivated by the chance to fininsh at .500 for the first time in franshise history, which is a nice stepping stone for a good young club entering next year.

[SBR_John]

The Skins are playing pretty good now and Dal / Wash is a big game whenever they play. I see no one has hung a line on that one yet.

OK, thanks, I'll skip that giant game although I'm partial to home NFL dogs getting 2+ TDs. Long term you wont make money betting those kind of favorites. Plus, NEs motivation is for th wrong reasons. NY will be equally motivated to prevent those records.

[jjgold]

Does the game mean anything for Giants?

If not Pats bury them

[SBR Lou]

The Skins are playing pretty good now and Dal / Wash is a big game whenever they play. I see no one has hung a line on that one yet.

Wash -7.5, opened at -7 for a minute at bookmaker two hrs ago

[SBR_John]

Yea fuk I was out and missed the -7 after watching for the line to open half the night and all morning. I just pounded that -7.5 and now I noticed the line didnt budge LOL. If that game doesnt cash I may stop gambling forever. or not.

[mofome]

I don't like the Jags at all next week mofone, as Houston will have all the motivation. I actually think that the Jags are the only team in the NFL with a chance to beat New England right now, but they have absolutely nothing to play for next week and will be better served not getting any of their regulars injured. On the other hand, the Texans will be motivated by the chance to fininsh at .500 for the first time in franshise history, which is a nice stepping stone for a good young club entering next year.

yeah i know the jags dont have anything to play for, but i just think they have a coaching staff that will coach to win. if i can get +220 or more on them i wont pass it up. i agree with your point about finishing .500, but i think the jags are pounding the ball as well as anyone in the league right now and i expect them to run through hou.

[LT Profits]

mofome,

Maybe for the first half yes, but the Jags should put in the third-stringers and the water boy in the second half. Maybe the Jax 1H Moneyline could be good?

[mofome]

mofome,

Maybe for the first half yes, but the Jags should put in the third-stringers and the water boy in the second half. Maybe the Jax 1H Moneyline could be good?

could be the better play. these games are certainly hard to figure when one team has something to play for the the other doesnt. i remember back in the day the skins needed to win a game while the team they were playing had nothing to play for...and my skins lost. this was back in the old school gibbs days. that allowed gb a chance to win and get in later in the day....but they lost too and the skins ended up in the playoffs despite the loss. not an easy sunday coming up.

[Chuck Sims]

I love the last week of the season becasue information can give you a great advantage over the masses. Case in point, last year a terrible TB team was bet up to a 3 point fav over division winner Seattle with the consensus thinking that Seattle would mail it in. Midweek Holmgren says on his radio show that his team needed to win to get some momentum going into the playoffs and he would play his starters until victory was secured. Seattle +3 was now a great play and they won easy.