[SBR_John]

He lost the vote to be king i see. He seems to have bigger balls than brains. Id put his O/U at 3.7 years before the people their want to lynch him.

[HedgeHog]

OT: Chavez - is there a bigger tool?


President Bush?

[Shark79]

Chavez will accept the turn down for a while .. but he will make this a civil war ...

[ritehook]

He lost the vote to be king i see. He seems to have bigger balls than brains. Id put his O/U at 3.7 years before the people their want to lynch him.

Forget any of the "left/right" stuff the US media seems fixated on. It's all bull. For instance, the so-called "insurgency" in Iraq is mainly manned by local patriots, nationalists for their country, not Al-Queda. Tho you can hardly tell the US mass media that.

Chavez is a nationalist for his country. I see nothing wrong with that. He's tryiing to get a more equitable distribution of wealth, to better the lives of all the people in his land, not just the priveleged.

And, he rightfully opposes the machinations of Bush and the coterie of globalists and neocons who trail the wake of this national nightmare we're endured for seven years.

(Chavez also seems quite honest, a rarity for a South or Central American head of state. He actually did have a free election, and has announced he will abide by the vote against his attempt to lenghthen his rule. Mexico is in desperate need of a leader like Chavez.)

It's not good for Venezuela for US corporations to dictate to that country --- and long run it is definitely not good for the USA to be sticking its big nose into the internal affairs of every land on earth. (As the Imperial Romans learned the hard way, by losing it all)

Ron Paul for President!

[Shark79]

Forget any of the "left/right" stuff the US media seems fixated on. It's all bull. For instance, the so-called "insurgency" in Iraq is mainly manned by local patriots, nationalists for their country, not Al-Queda. Tho you can hardly tell the US mass media that.

Chavez is a nationalist for his country. I see nothing wrong with that. He's tryiing to get a more equitable distribution of wealth, to better the lives of all the people in his land, not just the priveleged.

And, he rightfully opposes the machinations of Bush and the coterie of globalists and neocons who trail the wake of this national nightmare we're endured for seven years.

(Chavez also seems quite honest, a rarity for a South or Central American head of state. He actually did have a free election, and has announced he will abide by the vote against his attempt to lenghthen his rule. Mexico is in desperate need of a leader like Chavez.)

It's not good for Venezuela for US corporations to dictate to that country --- and long run it is definitely not good for the USA to be sticking its big nose into the internal affairs of every land on earth. (As the Imperial Romans learned the hard way, by losing it all)

Ron Paul for President!

I disagree with that ... if you want to distribute wealth ... then find proper solutions to the problem, but please dont take lands from people that worked hard for what they have till now. I think that Chavez is just just trying to be the next Castro .. nothing else.

[ShamsWoof10]

Forget any of the "left/right" stuff the US media seems fixated on. It's all bull. For instance, the so-called "insurgency" in Iraq is mainly manned by local patriots, nationalists for their country, not Al-Queda. Tho you can hardly tell the US mass media that.

Chavez is a nationalist for his country. I see nothing wrong with that. He's tryiing to get a more equitable distribution of wealth, to better the lives of all the people in his land, not just the priveleged.

And, he rightfully opposes the machinations of Bush and the coterie of globalists and neocons who trail the wake of this national nightmare we're endured for seven years.

(Chavez also seems quite honest, a rarity for a South or Central American head of state. He actually did have a free election, and has announced he will abide by the vote against his attempt to lenghthen his rule. Mexico is in desperate need of a leader like Chavez.)

It's not good for Venezuela for US corporations to dictate to that country --- and long run it is definitely not good for the USA to be sticking its big nose into the internal affairs of every land on earth. (As the Imperial Romans learned the hard way, by losing it all)

Ron Paul for President!

I can agree with this post...especially the bold part..

I like the role Chavez and the Irainian President are playing... I think it's scripted but no matter I like the "see your way out of my business and I will do things as I see fit." part or role they are playing in this GLOBAL "As the World Turns"....

[luciano]

I dont know why we havent accidentally dropped a 2,000 lb. bomb on this guys home yet.

[Travis]

I got the over John.

[ritehook]

My opposition to globalism and qualified support of patriots like Chavez is not motivated by any kind of "liberalism," as some out-of-date talking heads (ie on talk radio) may think, but by my wish to place the interests of the USA first.

NOT the global corporations based in the US. The nation known as the USA.

George Washington's two century old advice not to meddle in the affairs of other lands remains valid today. It will almost always result in "blowback," as author Chalmers Johnson puts it. Like we have now in Iraq, and in the Middle East in general, as a result of American business wanting a foothold there, and to actualize the foreign policy of one particular nation in that region, a nation that controls about 98% of "our" national politicians.

As Ron Paul succinctly put it, re the 9/11 attackers: "They're over here because we're over there."

Opposing "American" globalism, in my view, is to support the real America. We can and should be "a light unto the nations," but let's keep that light burning in the New York harbor.

If we try to export it, it usually lights up the sky in some foreign land, as "bombs bursting in air."

[ritehook]

And if the bombs burst in air over there, they will surely, as they have already via exploding passenger planes, burst in air over here.

The wide oceans can no longer keep America safe from its own folly. Time to change.

[Shark79]

Any of you guys against CAFTA?

[ritehook]

Any of you guys against CAFTA?

I'm dead set against all these phony "free trade" agreements. I saw the NAFTA debate, up close and personal. We were lied to by the rampaging globalists (they used to be called "internationalists," and usually sported a hammer & sickel) re the NAFTA, that it would severely reduce the number of illegal immigrants entering the USA.

Right!!! And those of us who opposed NAFTA in the '80s knew it was pure bullsh-t at the time, a propaganda show.

All NAFTA has meant to Americans is good manual labor jobs heading south, and so hurting the least advantaged our our citizens. And huge profits for the very entrenched Mexican elites. And also high-tech jobs migrating to the Orient.

There was free trade before these agreements, which are written by the corporations to give their industy a leg up. The int'l trade then was on a product by product review, the way it should be done.

It's the way it was done from the end of the Civil War until late in the 20th century. That happened also to be the period when one nation (the USA), with high but not inpenetrable trade barriers, experienced the greatest expansion of general prosperity in the history of the world.

Co-incidence? I think not.

The globalist economic world benefits one small segment of the economy of each country. It's retrogressive. Americans will in the not too distant future suffer from the depredations of the rootless global capitalists, whose "home" happens to be where their ill-gotten gains are temporarily parked.

A nation cannot be run like a corporation, which can be "liquidated" once it serves it purpose of gathering in the gold. A nation is more like a superpersonal Idea, that transcends the material.

[ritehook]

And give thanks to globalist world trade the next time your dog dies because of sh-t from China called pet food ---

Ditto if your child is retarded from licking a crib post or toy from those new capitalists in old Cathay - - -

Or if you lose an eye when a cheapsh-t screwdriver from the same country breaks when you're trying to do a repair job around the home - - -

Yes, we Americans sure have benefitted from all those wonderful "cheap" products from China -- a country that now holds a significant amount of American debt. IE, "we" now cannot afford to ban or even truly regulate the bizarre garbage they're unloading onto our shores . . .

Oh yeah, globalism . . . . it's wonderful!

[Travis]

The problem is people. The greed spawned from advarice doesn't allow education, health, wealth to prosper. Someone always has to have more because of an insatiable thirst. Everyone does not "profit".

[ShamsWoof10]

ritehook why do you want to bring logic and reason into a rant against a "big bad dictator"?? lol

just like hitler only went after jews because they had a big red J on their doors in poland, we are only going after "insurgents" and "al-qaeda" because we can easily see they wear red bandanas lol.

no worries that al-qaeda is the name of the mujahadeen fighters we gave weapons to in the green belt.
and no worries that we are responsible for almost every roadside bombing in iraq.

are we honestly to believe that these poor innocent families in iraq are having this discussion:
man a: hey i don't have any money but i could sure use a car and a bomb to blow up my friends and neighbors
man b: sure i'll give you that stuff for free but can you make sure to blow up my family and friends too?

maybe they all send secret "batman-like" al-qaeda meetup signs in the sky or chat with each other on blackberries lol...

WOW I never expected this type of logic on here... Nice post!!!

I am pro GLOBALISM... I want it actually...

Global Currency
Global Religon
Global Government

[Starion]

Some of the stuff I read here can be frightening. Anybody who blames America for the whacko's around the world needs help.

He didn't lose the King vote, he lost the dictator vote. If the people there are smart, they will escort him to the nearest gallows.

[Travis]

If you took a good look at American foriegn policy over the last sixty years, it really isn't that hard to believe that some of these "whackos" could have been created out of the inequity and injustice that much of America's involvement created i.e., Iran in the early 50's or America's pro-Israeli stance since 1947.

[ShamsWoof10]

Some of the stuff I read here can be frightening. Anybody who blames America for the whacko's around the world needs help.

He didn't lose the King vote, he lost the dictator vote. If the people there are smart, they will escort him to the nearest gallows.

I ain't blammin' the whore I am blammin' the pimp!!!

WEEEF!

[the2ofspades]

Forget any of the "left/right" stuff the US media seems fixated on. It's all bull. For instance, the so-called "insurgency" in Iraq is mainly manned by local patriots, nationalists for their country, not Al-Queda. Tho you can hardly tell the US mass media that.

Chavez is a nationalist for his country. I see nothing wrong with that. He's tryiing to get a more equitable distribution of wealth, to better the lives of all the people in his land, not just the priveleged.

And, he rightfully opposes the machinations of Bush and the coterie of globalists and neocons who trail the wake of this national nightmare we're endured for seven years.

(Chavez also seems quite honest, a rarity for a South or Central American head of state. He actually did have a free election, and has announced he will abide by the vote against his attempt to lenghthen his rule. Mexico is in desperate need of a leader like Chavez.)

It's not good for Venezuela for US corporations to dictate to that country --- and long run it is definitely not good for the USA to be sticking its big nose into the internal affairs of every land on earth. (As the Imperial Romans learned the hard way, by losing it all)

Ron Paul for President!

I live in venezuela, about 8 years, and actually everything you probably hear about chavez is right, it's not bull. he is corrupt, shits on everyone, is a hipocrit, brainwashes his people into thinking he is doing good, tries to control all media in the country and creates problems for the ones that actually tell you the real news. when in fact he just wants to create a new cuba. he's just a clone of fidel. a dictator that just lost a very important referendum. i hope he's gone in the next 5 years, that's the best thing that can happen to venezuela.

[ritehook]

I live in venezuela, about 8 years, and actually everything you probably hear about chavez is right, it's not bull. he is corrupt, shits on everyone, is a hipocrit, brainwashes his people into thinking he is doing good, tries to control all media in the country and creates problems for the ones that actually tell you the real news. when in fact he just wants to create a new cuba. he's just a clone of fidel. a dictator that just lost a very important referendum. i hope he's gone in the next 5 years, that's the best thing that can happen to venezuela.

To once more become an American colony?

Imperialism brings temporary benefits to any country with the military might to enforce it, but the "blowback" is huge, and unsustainable long run. Those under 50 and in reasonably good health will find out the hard way the reality of this eternal truth.

I'll go with the prescription of George Washington and Ron Paul, not George Bush and Allen Paulson. Be a light unto the nations, but don't go overseas to light them up so a handful with the greed sickness can lord it over the earth.

[SBR_John]

I live in venezuela, about 8 years, and actually everything you probably hear about chavez is right, it's not bull. he is corrupt, shits on everyone, is a hipocrit, brainwashes his people into thinking he is doing good, tries to control all media in the country and creates problems for the ones that actually tell you the real news. when in fact he just wants to create a new cuba. he's just a clone of fidel. a dictator that just lost a very important referendum. i hope he's gone in the next 5 years, that's the best thing that can happen to venezuela.

What he said.........................

Hes not a nationalists or any better than any of the modern day dictators. Why does he shut down news agencies he can't control?

Soon, like in Cuba and North Korea there will be no investors or multi national companies. Then he will be a great nationalist because he stood up to the USA and all those investors that would have brought a higher standard of living to the people. What a hero.

[Starion]

You'd be hard pressed to find a country that the people weren't better off after we defeated them. No bs, just the facts.

[ritehook]

You'd be hard pressed to find a country that the people weren't better off after we defeated them. No bs, just the facts.

Let's see: American Indians. Yep, once roamed the entire landscape of the continent, now confined to reservations, except for those who surrender their heritage. (Don't point up the "casino Indians," the amount to a very small percent of the total Native American population in the US, most of whom are below the poverty line)

They sure are "better off" after the Yankee genocide perpetrated upon them.

Mexico: Invaded their country in the 1840s under various high-sounding pretexts. The object was to steal the land west of the Mississippi, which was part of Mexico. And we suceeded, freeing Mexico of the burden of administering about half their national land. Yeah, dumb beaners sure were better off after that nifty lost war.

Spain: After being forced into a war when an almost certainly US-staged "incident" involving the warship "Maine," the US detached Cuba from Spain, and also the Philippines.

Yes, Spain was relieved by us of the awesome burden of administering those lands. And, oh yeah, our support of various Cuban dictators gave rise to Castro . . . he's our creation. Spain should be grateful . . .

Various Central American lands, circa 1870-1940. Which we invaded at will, usually to support some repressive or dictatorial regime, on behalf of United Fruit or some other rampaging capitalists. Yeah, they sure are better off, just look at the great prosperity they're enjoying.

Germany: When the liar Wilson conned the American people into WWI, by way of a phony incident involving the Lusitania, the war was at a standstill and an honorable peace was in the offing.

But with the German defeat, thanks to American arms, the horrendously oppressive and vengeful Versailles Treaty ruined the German people, gave rise to an inflation seen since only in "Zimbabwe," and also gave rise to Hitler, and paved the way to WWII.

Gee, those Germans should thank us for helping to crush 'em in in WWI. Ingrates!

Now, the U.S. has bases all over the world. It would make a late Roman emperor green with envy.

But it cannot and will not be sustained. The piper will be paid. The descendants of those old Romans who whored out their country to imperialism found out the hard way, when their throats were slit by the invading barbarians . . .

Guess who our barbarians will be . . .?

[ritehook]

The problem with many posters on pop forums is that they don't know history, they get their info from airheads like Hannity, Limbaugh, et al.

These radio patriots are really globalists, imperialists, in mufti. But they do succeed in conning an awful lot of people.

As the great American journalist, HL Mencken, once wrote: NOBODY EVER LOST MONEY UNDERESTIMATING THE INTELLIGENCE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Gee, I should make that my avatar.

[ritehook]

What he said.........................

Hes not a nationalists or any better than any of the modern day dictators. Why does he shut down news agencies he can't control?

Soon, like in Cuba and North Korea there will be no investors or multi national companies. Then he will be a great nationalist because he stood up to the USA and all those investors that would have brought a higher standard of living to the people. What a hero.

John, Latin America has had US and European "investors" for more than a century - how have they made their lands better?

The broad mass of the Mexican people are far worse off under NAFTA than before. Which is why the globalist swine who own that country can't feed their own people, and they thereby swarm into the US, desperate for any kind of work.

Venezuela has one trump that Cuba didn't: oil. Lots of it. Under Chavez they have used that oil to help the disadvantaged in other countries, including the US. This may be one of his problems, he should cut back on that charity to help his own people.

You seem to regard a nation as a vast trading field for your investments. OK, but can you understand that a large number of folks regard it as the land to which they are attached, connected to in a way the global trader cannot seem to comprehend?

A nation that becomes a mere trading field will surely vanish. And economic prosperity is not the be-all and end-all. I know a Mexican of average or below average income who speaks English and whose sister owns a restaurant in Los Angeles.

"She wants me to come up there and work as a waiter, " he told me. "But Mexico is my country, and so I'll stay here."

That's a sentiment that is just not understood on Wall Street, the denizens of which when they speak rapturously of the "borderless world" sound like old United World Federalist re-treads --- the entire world and its peoples as objects of trade.

Hallelujah!

[Shark79]

Well said and to the point!!!Hugo Caesar as the been the world leader with the biggest balls since Fidel,HE is a thorn on the side of the united states,a true patriot for his people whom stand tall for the poorest of his people.That is why the government propaganda mouth piece that is the discredited U.S. MEDIA as tried to paint a picture of Hugo Caesar that as nothing to do with reality ,as they did with their depiction of Fidel Castro.

WTF is Hugo Caesar?

Secondly have you ever spoken with a Venezuelan?? They hate Hugo Chavez!! they think he is going to bring there country into a SouthAmerican Cuba!!

[Starion]

Is name is Hugo Caesar Chavez.

Yep, and the only bigger tool would be Ahmadinejad.