[Ganchrow]

An excellent piece in Rolling Stone: How America Lost the War on Drugs.

[SBR Lou]

Very good read

[jjgold]

Why?

Horrible parenting is why we lost the war on drugs

[imgv94]

Will read this in the afternoon.

[thagame24]

drugs are a means of separating the weak from the strong, and they also allow for the employment of thousands (if not millions) of people in this country. This is why the "drug war" will never be won, because it's not meant to be won.

[WileOut]

drugs are a means of separating the weak from the strong, and they also allow for the employment of thousands (if not millions) of people in this country. This is why the "drug war" will never be won, because it's not meant to be won.

This is the most inaccurate post I've ever read on any message board. Pro athletes get addicted to drugs, these are the strongest people in the world. I was a drug addict and I would put my willpower against anyones. Anybody can be a drug addict it all depends on whether you were born with that particular genetic code or not. Just like there are tall and short people, different skin colors, and different hair colors; not everyone has the same chemicals in their brain. Reality is different for every person. For some people a drug replaces a chemical in the brain they were born without. Some of these people would break you in half game24. Its not about being weak or strong. You would need to be educated to know what I am talking about though and you are obviously not educated.

[chano]

This is the most inaccurate post I've ever read on any message board. Pro athletes get addicted to drugs, these are the strongest people in the world. I was a drug addict and I would put my willpower against anyones. Anybody can be a drug addict it all depends on whether you were born with that particular genetic code or not. Just like there are tall and short people, different skin colors, and different hair colors; not everyone has the same chemicals in their brain. Reality is different for every person. For some people a drug replaces a chemical in the brain they were born without. Some of these people would break you in half game24. Its not about being weak or strong. You would need to be educated to know what I am talking about though and you are obviously not educated.

I think he meant, mentally strong, not physically.

Also, In my opinion, saying that you are born with a drug problem is an excuse for having one.

[thagame24]

This is the most inaccurate post I've ever read on any message board. Pro athletes get addicted to drugs, these are the strongest people in the world. I was a drug addict and I would put my willpower against anyones. Anybody can be a drug addict it all depends on whether you were born with that particular genetic code or not. Just like there are tall and short people, different skin colors, and different hair colors; not everyone has the same chemicals in their brain. Reality is different for every person. For some people a drug replaces a chemical in the brain they were born without. Some of these people would break you in half game24. Its not about being weak or strong. You would need to be educated to know what I am talking about though and you are obviously not educated.

As Chano noted I was talking mental strength.....thought that was obvious, I guess I could've been more descriptive. No offense man, but to say you were a drug addict and then say "I would put my willpower against anyones" is ridiculous, because obviously people who aren't drug addicts have stronger willpower than you in this area. Also it's pretty crazy to start bringing genetics and brain chemicals into it, we're talking about heroin, coke, x, etc. here not serotonin altering pharmaceuticals (and many of these drugs are not needed, they're pushed by the evil profit-driven legal drug companies, but that's a whole nother story). And to say I'm not educated on the subject, well.....anyone who reads this post knows who really has a clue here, and if you mean that I don't have life experience with this, you're right I'm not and have never been an addict, so I guess you've got "one up" on me there.

[jjgold]

Some people like the high period, theya re not weak all they need is a boost and drugs do it. Some of your strongest leaders in the world in all walks of life have drug habits. I do not think they are weak.

[Shark79]

Why?

Horrible parenting is why we lost the war on drugs

First time I agree with JJ ... it's all about the parents

[McBa1n]

really good read... worth reading no matter how you feel about the issue.

[jolub]

This is a very long articule to read and I did. It was very interesting but sad. Where do all these fools that run our government come from?

[Kingfisher28]

Daylight Robbery the amount of taxes spent on fighting an unwinnable war - just legalise drugs and take the power out of the hands of the criminals - never be done cos its too simple for politicians - they like to be seen to be "fighting" evil when all they are really doing is "fuelling" it for criminal gangs.

[louis]

The war on drugs has neither been won or lost. Some battles have been won, some have been lost, some should not have been fought at all.

The war against crack has definitely been won.

There is no question in places like NYC, the place has been cleaned up and there are not crack dealers on every street corner like there was 15 years ago. You don't think the police in that city had anything to do with this? I don't think it was just demand for the drug. The supply was cut off as well as crack dealers starting to go to jail and no longer being able to operate out in the open. The price sky rocketed, and demand from the mainly lower income people went down dramatically.

The same situation happened in other areas of the country, and the war against crack was in fact successful to a large extent.

Unfortuantely, the problem with drugs goes on, and some drugs like marijuana should simply be legal in my opinion. It is impossible to win the war completely as long as demand is there.

The biggest problem with "drugs" seems to be cigarettes, and that war is slowly being won. The next beiggest problem with "drugs" seems to be drinking and driving and that war is being won as well, compared to the past. Most of the other battles with drugs probably should not even be fought, but I did support the cleaning up of New York City.

[jjgold]

Crack was more of a fad that fazed itslef out, it is still there if you want it dealers way more discreet now.

[The Seer]

I think he meant, mentally strong, not physically.

Also, In my opinion, saying that you are born with a drug problem is an excuse for having one.

I agree. Some years, I took enough pain killers to kill an elephant and never got addicted. As soon as I healed, I'd get off of them cold turkey. I had teammates that wouldn't take half as much and couldn't live without 'em. Same with cortisone shots. Same with eating clean. Same with androgenic-anabolic steroids. I took 'em for a short time to try to hurry and get back on the field and then I've seen guys that wouldn't do a single workout unless they were juicin'. It all depends on whether you have an addictive personality and the will to "just say no". Just like gambling, I quit for 4 years one time just because I didn't want to take a risk of losing any money.

[ShamsWoof10]

The War on Drugs is like The War on Terror... It's not MEANT to be won...

I am actually hoping for The War on Gambling because then we will have more access to it..

This WWF style of goverment globally is so obvious I feel like a five year old watching cartoons when I turn on MSNBC "OWNED BY GE"...

[Mr. Orange]

F all that, I would kill for some percocets as my neck is wrecked.

[tblues2005]

I think your right shams it isn't meant to win.

[ShamsWoof10]

This is a classic and if anyone can find it and post it that would make my day...

A reporter recently asked GW where Bin Laden was and he said: I don't know and I really don't care... hahahahaha

[Dumb_lucK]

This is a classic and if anyone can find it and post it that would make my day...

A reporter recently asked GW where Bin Laden was and he said: I don't know and I really don't care... hahahahaha

This one?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0020313-8.html

Q Mr. President, in your speeches now you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that? Also, can you tell the American people if you have any more information, if you know if he is dead or alive? Final part -- deep in your heart, don't you truly believe that until you find out if he is dead or alive, you won't really eliminate the threat of --

THE PRESIDENT: Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he's alive at all. Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not; we haven't heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is -- really indicates to me people don't understand the scope of the mission.

Terror is bigger than one person. And he's just -- he's a person who's now been marginalized. His network, his host government has been destroyed. He's the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match. He is -- as I mentioned in my speech, I do mention the fact that this is a fellow who is willing to commit youngsters to their death and he, himself, tries to hide -- if, in fact, he's hiding at all.

So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I'm more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did.

And there will be other battles in Afghanistan. There's going to be other struggles like Shahikot, and I'm just as confident about the outcome of those future battles as I was about Shahikot, where our soldiers are performing brilliantly. We're tough, we're strong, they're well-equipped. We have a good strategy. We are showing the world we know how to fight a guerrilla war with conventional means.

Q But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.

But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became -- we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore. And if we -- excuse me for a minute -- and if we find a training camp, we'll take care of it. Either we will or our friends will. That's one of the things -- part of the new phase that's becoming apparent to the American people is that we're working closely with other governments to deny sanctuary, or training, or a place to hide, or a place to raise money.