My personal Politics L-O-C-K !!!!! Democratic Party Presidential Nominee

SBR_John · 01-09-2006, 07:44 AM

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Wager Type: Future
Wager Status: Pending
Risk / To Win Amount: 1,000.00 / 840.34 (USD)
Date Accepted: 8-January-2006
Time Accepted: 9:46:07 AM (Pacific)
Description: Politics
2008 US Presidential Election
Democratic Party Presidential Nominee
Hillary Clinton vs Anybody else
Anybody else (all bets have action) -119

Oh come on, everyone knows the Dems will NOT nominate Hillary. 2008 is their best chance at making some gains maybe even the White House. They won't chance it on Hillary.

bigboydan · 01-09-2006, 08:17 AM

i'm not into politics at all (could really care less)... but, what other canidate would they even consider running against the republicans ?

BTW,

John, i'm suprised your going to tie up your money for that long.

BuddyBear · 01-09-2006, 11:26 AM

I don't know John...i follow politics relatively closely and I can tell you that Hillary is pretty popular right now....even among more Republican moderates. She does tend to be very polarizing but if her popularity soars then that is not a good sign b/c the Dems will nominate her thinking she is their only chance.

quarm_ · 01-09-2006, 11:41 AM

yep thats a long time for a bet to run ^^

P.S. can you show imgv how to post wager confirmations?
Id love to see how much 94 units are :+eyes-8+:

tacomax · 01-09-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by quarm_

Id love to see how much 94 units are :+eyes-8+:

$94

BuddyBear · 01-09-2006, 12:50 PM

who cares how much someone bets....that's the one thing i hate about sports forum is they criticize guys how much they bet...who cares if you bet $5 or $5000 on a game. The idea to get games right and IMGV is doing a pretty solid job lately.

tacomax · 01-09-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BuddyBear

who cares how much someone bets....that's the one thing i hate about sports forum is they criticize guys how much they bet...who cares if you bet $5 or $5000 on a game. The idea to get games right and IMGV is doing a pretty solid job lately.

And I think it's pretty sad in the extreme when someone starts multiple forum flame wars for the heinous crime of disagreeing with their picks or for simply not kissing their ass.

I thought this was a serious forum, not a kindergarten.

SBR_John · 01-09-2006, 01:19 PM

This works out to 40% return per year so yea, it ties some money up but its a nice return.

Buddy a ticket with Hillary as the headliner would be the death of the Demo party for a generation. The coat tail losses in congress would be unthinkable.

Other canidates? How about Kerry? and if he is too liberal you got Joe The Man Lierbman.

quarm_ · 01-09-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tacomax

I thought this was a serious forum, not a kindergarten.

Good one Taco, switching from the SBR page to the forum is like travelling between worlds :+eyes-8+:

RamblinRoyce · 01-09-2006, 01:34 PM

who mentioned imgv, i don't see anybody mentioning imgv. and no one cares about the $ amount, which is why you're supposed to use units. 1 unit for a weak bet and 5 units for a strong bet, maybe 10 units for a really strong bet. People should post in units. And 94 units, well that implies a 110% sure thing bet, rock solid and will never fail bet, which you know, happens all the time...

There's also McCain...and I agree, they shouldn't nominate Hillary unless they wanna lose...cuz realistically, all the red states have women who still wouldn't vote for her...and for every woman who wouldn't vote for Hilary, there are ten men who wouldn't in the reds...

SBR_John · 01-09-2006, 04:47 PM

The Democrats main problem is:
There are no moderates that have a big name. Kerry is trying to become a moderate but its hard to hide from a 20 year voting record. My man man Joe L is too conservative. Heck maybe Al Gore has worked through his speech impediment and is ready to give it another roll. I mean, he did invent the internet.

bigboydan · 01-09-2006, 04:47 PM

come on guy, keep it on the topic please

Senator7 · 01-09-2006, 09:25 PM

I think the Dems will nominate Hillary Clinton in 2008 and it will be one of the biggest mistakes they have ever made. She's as polarizing a figure as you'll find in politics, but she's already basically locked up all of the superdelegates at the Democratic Convention. To win, a Democrat is going to have to turn one or two (Ohio or Florida) red states in 2004, blue in 2008. I don't think Hillary Clinton can do that.

Joe Lieberman could do it, but he's been blacklisted from the party for being the only Senate Democrat currently using his brain.

Evan Bayh is an intriguing choice and someone with broad appeal that could do well in the red states.

John Kerry and Al Gore have both lost and will forever have the loser label. If either of them is nominated in 2008, it will be Adlai Stevenson all over again.

John Edwards is alright, but he's beaten to death his "Two Americas" speech. Edwards doesn't have ideal experience either and by 2008, he'll have been out of the public scene for over three years.

The darkhorse Democrat is Russ Feingold. He championed campaign finance with John McCain, he was the lone vote against the Patriot Act, and he's got minimal skeletons in his closet. He's an incredible campaigner and, even though he's incredibly liberal, he's managed to hide it by painting himself as an independent or a maverick. His campaign ads are absolutey incredible as well. The other benefit in nominating Feingold is that it immediately turns a toss up state (Wisconsin) solidly blue in 2008. In his 2004 re-election, Feingold set a Wisconsin record for the amount of votes he received, even more than Tommy Thompson. The major problems for Feingold will be raising money for the primary and the fact that he's Jewish.

Just two cents from someone who does this for a living...

BuddyBear · 01-09-2006, 10:04 PM

Pretty good read Senator.....I'd like Feingold to run personally. I think he actually stands for something and has done a pretty good job within his own party in separating himself from others.

I think Lieberman is a joke....he represents everything wrong with the Democratic Party....he is really a soft Republican and becoming more and more conservative.....had Gore chose someone besides Lieberman he would have won.

BuddyBear · 01-09-2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SBR_John

The Democrats main problem is:
There are no moderates that have a big name. Kerry is trying to become a moderate but its hard to hide from a 20 year voting record. My man man Joe L is too conservative. Heck maybe Al Gore has worked through his speech impediment and is ready to give it another roll. I mean, he did invent the internet.

People who say Kerry is a real liberal have no idea what they are talking about...just conservative repetition where you say something enough people begin to believe it even though it is not true (i.e. liberal media, judicial activism, etc...)

slacker00 · 01-09-2006, 10:50 PM

I can't imagine a female U.S. president in my lifetime. (I expect to live another 50 years according to the actuarial tables.)

That said, I think Hillary is the best Democratic candidate right now. She'll never win the presidencey against Republican X, but she's stilt he best Democratic candidate. That's how sad the Democratic party is right now. I couldn't bet against her getting the Democratic nomination.