[Bill Dozer]

The line is dropping right now to 211. GS shot 48, 47 and 50% in their last three. This is their 3rd of 5 games on road.

IMO Doc SHOULD slow it down against this team and not let them get easy % shots. They have to make the superior D a factor tonight.

[robzilla]

Pounded the under 214.0 at -121 at 10:30 this morning.

[kdmfox]

Originally Posted by robzilla

Pounded the under 214.0 at -121 at 10:30 this morning.

Pounded? -121?

[rjt721]

Boston's defensive statistics are misleading. This is not a great defensive team, particularly on the perimeter, and as the season progresses they will be nowhere near the top in PPG allowed, defensive FG% etc.

Doc may TRY to slow it down (although that's not how he likes to play), but GS will only allow the game to be played at their preferred pace. GS playing last night is the only factor keeping me from playing the over, but I'd lean to this game clearing the total with ease.

[biggamer3]

Still at 213 for me

[biggamer3]

Unreal, 2 points scored in first 3 minutes of game

[magnavox]

Originally Posted by kdmfox

Pounded? -121?

That's 213 @-110.

[Bill Dozer]

GS fg% coming back down to earth early. With any luck GS is warn out by the third and it's all second stringers running sets. This is a crappy trip for GS over the holiday. GL guys.

[robzilla]

Originally Posted by magnavox

That's 213 @-110.

Atleast I won. kdmfox, go F*CK yourself!

[BuddyBear]

Originally Posted by robzilla

Pounded the under 214.0 at -121 at 10:30 this morning.

paying -121 for a total

[Bill Dozer]

Originally Posted by robzilla

Atleast I won. kdmfox, go F*CK yourself!

Dont take it too hard Rob. The half point calculator came out so we are all suddenly sharper than a tack. Congrats on the winna!

[BuddyBear]

sorry, but if you are willing to pay -121 on a total I'll quit my job and be your bookie.....just give me some notice so I can submit my 2 week notice

[isetcap]

Originally Posted by robzilla

Atleast I won. kdmfox, go F*CK yourself!

Don't worry about it, Rob. Some clowns at this forum know absolutely nothing about the importance of pricing and will even go so far as to say unbelievably idiotic things like this...

[tacomax]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

sorry, but if you are willing to pay -121 on a total I'll quit my job and be your bookie.....just give me some notice so I can submit my 2 week notice

At the same time, I'm sure he'd question the reasoning for sticking 20 units on a college football game. At least his was a winner.

[tacomax]

Originally Posted by isetcap

Don't worry about it, Rob. Some clowns at this forum know absolutely nothing about the importance of pricing and will even go so far as to say unbelievably idiotic things like this...

Now that's worthy of a

[raiders72002]

Let's keep the crap out of the threads.

Congrats to the winners. Solid play.

[BuddyBear]

well well well...if it is not two of the most idiotic posters on SBR: Tacomax and Isetcap.

Let's see, a guy is paying 21 cent juice on a total and you are congratulating him on a win. Great, he won. Congrats....but unless he can hit at a 55% rate, paying -121 on a total is beyond idotic, it is downright self-destructive. If you have an ounce of intelligence you know that making that bet is pretty much a long-term losing proposition.

And Tacomax, where are your picks? Isetcap, what about you...where are your picks? I don't see you guys going on record with anything other than stupid statements. I stand by my Michigan bet 100%. When you have a perceived edge you go big. How was anyone to know that the two star players were really injured even though they were cleared to play. I could afford to lose that much so I don't care but am certainly not happy about it don't get me wrong but I understood the risk. Now I see why Pags is not intersted in posting here anymore...Too many idiots.

And what about that thread with the Dr.Bob feature? If that statement by Isetcap is directed at me then he needs to rethink it. Yeah no shit you have to get the best line, but the trick is to get the best line at the best price. It stands to reason if you are going to bet Kansas -23.5 you should have no reservations at betting Kansas -24 since the only possible outcome would be a win and a push if it lands on 24 as opposed to a push and loss with say -24 & -24.5.

[tacomax]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

And Tacomax, where are your picks? Isetcap, what about you...where are your picks?

It's not about making picks, it's about having a go at other people's picks. You threw your toys out of the pram big time when your lock of the century lost and people were questioning you. But you think it's OK to have a go at the picks of someone else.

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

It stands to reason if you are going to bet Kansas -23.5 you should have no reservations at betting Kansas -24 since the only possible outcome would be a win and a push if it lands on 24 as opposed to a push and loss with say -24 & -24.5.

Earth to BuddyBear.

The tout picks (like any plays people post here) assume a -110 price (or a -105 price or, more specifically, a "50-50" probability spread) unless advised otherwise. So when a tout says "take Team X only up to 23.5" they mean take Team X up to 23.5 at -110 odds. They are hardly going to include all pricing possibilities of the extra half/full point. Touts (or forum cappers even) generally go on a win/loss record based on -110 so it is obvious to see if they are hitting 50% on their picks or not.

Good luck this weekend. Hope the lessons from John Layfield start to pay off for you.

[isetcap]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

...And what about that thread with the Dr.Bob feature? If that statement by Isetcap is directed at me then he needs to rethink it. Yeah no shit you have to get the best line, but the trick is to get the best line at the best price. It stands to reason if you are going to bet Kansas -23.5 you should have no reservations at betting Kansas -24 since the only possible outcome would be a win and a push if it lands on 24 as opposed to a push and loss with say -24 & -24.5.

Listen, Jared...I'm not going to waste my time discussing value with someone whose bet size is the equivalent of a Subway sandwich. I think your logic reveals itself quite efficiently.

And Taco; you need to stop making fun of Jared for his $100 Michigan bet.

[tacomax]

Originally Posted by isetcap

And Taco; you need to stop making fun of Jared for his $100 Michigan bet.

And you should quit it, tough guy. Looks like we're both in the running for the 2007 "Idiot of the Year" - I'm damned if I'm going to let you beat me to it.

[isetcap]

Originally Posted by tacomax

And you should quit it, tough guy. Looks like we're both in the running for the 2007 "Idiot of the Year" - I'm damned if I'm going to let you beat me to it.

Is there a committee for that? Does the winner get a SIA hat?

[robzilla]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

well well well...if it is not two of the most idiotic posters on SBR: Tacomax and Isetcap.

Let's see, a guy is paying 21 cent juice on a total and you are congratulating him on a win. Great, he won. Congrats....but unless he can hit at a 55% rate, paying -121 on a total is beyond idotic, it is downright self-destructive. If you have an ounce of intelligence you know that making that bet is pretty much a long-term losing proposition.

And Tacomax, where are your picks? Isetcap, what about you...where are your picks? I don't see you guys going on record with anything other than stupid statements. I stand by my Michigan bet 100%. When you have a perceived edge you go big. How was anyone to know that the two star players were really injured even though they were cleared to play. I could afford to lose that much so I don't care but am certainly not happy about it don't get me wrong but I understood the risk. Now I see why Pags is not intersted in posting here anymore...Too many idiots.

And what about that thread with the Dr.Bob feature? If that statement by Isetcap is directed at me then he needs to rethink it. Yeah no shit you have to get the best line, but the trick is to get the best line at the best price. It stands to reason if you are going to bet Kansas -23.5 you should have no reservations at betting Kansas -24 since the only possible outcome would be a win and a push if it lands on 24 as opposed to a push and loss with say -24 & -24.5.

Buddy bear you are friggin retawded! that's worse than retarded.

You are winning at less than 55%, and then talkin shit about me for paying -121?? Im not playing for the thrill of victory here pal! Im a ****ing pro. I do this to pay the bills and put food on the ****in table. I win at 75%+.

You act as if 21 cents is eating chaulk. it isnt.

[VegasDave]

75% plus?!?!?!?!

[Hap]

uscking31,

You volunteered your hocky picks in another thread. Where will you post those?

[robzilla]

that's not counting NFL, where I am 110-50 (68.8%).

[BuddyBear]

Originally Posted by tacomax

It's not about making picks, it's about having a go at other people's picks. You threw your toys out of the pram big time when your lock of the century lost and people were questioning you. But you think it's OK to have a go at the picks of someone else.



Earth to BuddyBear.

The tout picks (like any plays people post here) assume a -110 price (or a -105 price or, more specifically, a "50-50" probability spread) unless advised otherwise. So when a tout says "take Team X only up to 23.5" they mean take Team X up to 23.5 at -110 odds. They are hardly going to include all pricing possibilities of the extra half/full point. Touts (or forum cappers even) generally go on a win/loss record based on -110 so it is obvious to see if they are hitting 50% on their picks or not.

Good luck this weekend. Hope the lessons from John Layfield start to pay off for you.

Great, good to see your alias is John Layfield. Figures you are an anti-semite.

Let me get this straight, I've picked more winners than losers on here yet you are going to hold me hostage b/c Michigan lost? Where are your posts Tacomax? You don't have the guts to post plays because you aren't playing any games to begin with...nor are you a winning handicapper. You are a failed handicapper and that's all.....

Ummm....in regards to the Kansas -23.5 play I'll reiterate again and see if you can follow the logic. If you are willing to play -23.5 (-110) it stands to reason that you should be willing to play it at -24 (-110). The only possible outcome that can occur is that you either win or push instead of win should Kansas cover -23.5. It is mathematically guaranteed that you will not lose -24 and win -23.5. Why is that hard for you to follow? If someone advises you to play it up to -23.5 fine.....but if you ready to "pound" a game at that price, then -24 should be no problem b/c the odds of losing a bet at -24 and winning one at -23.5 are nil. Anyway, use some basic logic. Dr. Bob is trying to inflate his record too so -23.5 can only increase that probability. Saying -24 increases the risk of a push.

[BuddyBear]

Originally Posted by isetcap

Listen, Jared...I'm not going to waste my time discussing value with someone whose bet size is the equivalent of a Subway sandwich. I think your logic reveals itself quite efficiently.

And Taco; you need to stop making fun of Jared for his $100 Michigan bet.

1) My name is not Jared Your name is Eric Curtis though right.

2) And first of all, my bet size is my business. I don't have to reveal how much I bet on a game to you or anyone else on here. Nor do I want to know how much someone else bets, that's their business. We had this discussion over the summer where i embarrassed you. What relationship does bet size and ATS winning percentage have???? Why would you make fun of someone's bet size? You have no class whatsoever to insult someone over their bet size. You tried to make fun of Pags for how much he bets on a game. Yet the guy posted winner after winner and you were no where to be found when he was having winning week after winning week. Yet you insult how much he is betting a game but don't post picks yourself???? Your logic revals itself quite adequately: Make fun of someone b/c of how much they bet a game.

[BuddyBear]

Originally Posted by robzilla

Buddy bear you are friggin retawded! that's worse than retarded.

You are winning at less than 55%, and then talkin shit about me for paying -121?? Im not playing for the thrill of victory here pal! Im a ****ing pro. I do this to pay the bills and put food on the ****in table. I win at 75%+.

You act as if 21 cents is eating chaulk. it isnt.

Umm....the difference is I am not paying any juice for my picks. I don't need to hit 55%...almost nobody can hit 55%. You are not a pro, you aren't doing this to pay the bills, you are not doing this to "put food on the table," and you aren't winning at a rate of 75%...I am wondering who is dumb enough to believe you on that?

Sure, 21 cents is not eating chalk if you are paying it for the Dallas MoneyLine today against the Jets...it is if you are doing it for an NBA total.

The fact that you pay 21 cents for a total in an NBA game tells us you are not a pro at all.

[BuddyBear]

Originally Posted by robzilla

that's not counting NFL, where I am 110-50 (68.8%).

This is literally almost mathematically impossible to achieve if you are doing it ATS. Moreover, this must be your weak sport since you are "hitting at 75%" in everything else. If anyone hit 75% in their picks, they would be a millionaire 10 times over by now....


Really the lengths people will go on here to lie and draw attention to themselves......

[gummo]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

This is literally almost mathematically impossible to achieve if you are doing it ATS. Moreover, this must be your weak sport since you are "hitting at 75%" in everything else. If anyone hit 75% in their picks, they would be a millionaire 10 times over by now....


Really the lengths people will go on here to lie and draw attention to themselves......

75%???

Those are John Layfieldesque numbers!

[robzilla]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

Umm....the difference is I am not paying any juice for my picks. I don't need to hit 55%...almost nobody can hit 55%. You are not a pro, you aren't doing this to pay the bills, you are not doing this to "put food on the table," and you aren't winning at a rate of 75%...I am wondering who is dumb enough to believe you on that?

Sure, 21 cents is not eating chalk if you are paying it for the Dallas MoneyLine today against the Jets...it is if you are doing it for an NBA total.

The fact that you pay 21 cents for a total in an NBA game tells us you are not a pro at all.

The fact that i paid -121 means i knew more about this game than other people did. And it means you are stupid. are you not paying any juice ...?and then just flipping a coin to see who wins? because that is what your point amounts to.

[robzilla]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

This is literally almost mathematically impossible to achieve if you are doing it ATS. Moreover, this must be your weak sport since you are "hitting at 75%" in everything else. If anyone hit 75% in their picks, they would be a millionaire 10 times over by now....


Really the lengths people will go on here to lie and draw attention to themselves......

I can prove im at 70-80% for the year. but why should i prove anything to someone who only bets coin flips when the game is a -105? it is sad that you let the bookmaker tell you who to bet on. go away amature!

[robzilla]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

If anyone hit 75% in their picks, they would be a millionaire 10 times over by now....

maybe i am a millionaire.

[BuddyBear]

You don't need to lie to impress people unless you are Tacomax. Let's see Rob...you are a 27 year old kid who started a thread asking what the value of a half point is.

Now if you were a millionaire or a professional gambler would you be asking such questions???

[BuddyBear]

the fact that you paid -121 means you are an idiot....