[austintx05]

Greek or Pinnacle

I see a lot of difference especially on NBA lines with their openers.

Example

Pinnacle opened Phx-11
Greek opened Phx -9

So is it safe to say sharps are hitting Pinnacle?

[durito]

well, pinnacle opened this game about 5 hours before the greek so it got hit first there and they were down to 9 by the time the greek posted it.

you won't see any of the big 3 that post first hanging much of a different # from what one of the others has moved to.

pinny is usually not the first to post, so I'm not sure why today was differen't.

[austintx05]

well the reason I ask is due to line movement...I typically look for 1 pt moves when betting NBA...so it is crucial to know what the opener is

[Bill Dozer]

Greek or Pinnacle

I see a lot of difference especially on NBA lines with their openers.

Example

Pinnacle opened Phx-11
Greek opened Phx -9

So is it safe to say sharps are hitting Pinnacle?

Some sharps believe Greek has sharper numbers since Pinnacle pulled out of US. I still think Pinnacle with the smaller margin for error in the reduced juice is going to be the sharpest number. They still have a lot of the same sharp action.

In your example you would need to know when both #s opened. If Pinn opened at the same time as Greek and the -11 went down to -9 you could guess that sharps have more confidence in the Greek's number and bet the +11. Or bettors just like the +11. NBA #s are wild early on so tough to say what's going on anywhere.

[LLXC]

I would assume Pinnacle.

[BigBollocks]

They're both damn sharp, make no mistake about it. I'm in the camp Bill Dozer mentioned. I think theGreek now has sharper numbers, but it's like comparing apples to apples.

It should be noted, however, that the majority of Pinny's hard hitting US customers are still playing there. The majority who don't know what I'm talking about are intended to stay that way...

[jjgold]

greek unless you count usa credit players at Pinny

[raiders72002]

US customers are still playing there.

same with other books. Pinny lines still sharp after US ban. No difference.

[chano]

It should be noted, however, that the majority of Pinny's hard hitting US customers are still playing there. The majority who don't know what I'm talking about are intended to stay that way...

We have a BINGO..

[OldZig]

Pinnacle still gets all the information they did before, now it may even be more focused. And don't forget the guy running the operation is pretty sharp himself. I would agree that it's apples to apples but for my money I follow Pinny.