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Old 12-31-2005, 07:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default RCS - Shame on SBR

Why are SBR trying to jeopardise players balance at Rich Coast?
TOW may have got things wrong with the rookie project and SBR were right in advising caution, but if TOW had not been involved with Rich Coast I doubt we would have seen the glee with which SBR has reported the situation. At every turn on SBR’s front page and on both sites forums SBR has posted sarcastic remakes and have used every opportunity to rub TOW’s nose in it.
SBR were so quick off the mark in saying that Rich Coast had “failed” without mentioning that everything was being do to secure players balances and now that deal is in place SBR is sure it is “shaky”. Why don’t you put your energy into helping players get their funds first SBR instead of being obsessed with making yourselves look good and TOW look bad?
Get off your high horse, and leave the fall-out for later.
You should be putting players first.
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Old 12-31-2005, 07:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Good post. This is a pissing match between TOW and SBR at the expense of the players.
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Old 12-31-2005, 07:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I must admit that I have thought the same. It even became very personal at some point.
Anyways, I have no idea what happened with RCS but I will wait to see if I have lost my money or not. However it seems to me that SBR is trying to harm TOW's (very profitable) rookie project. If Roberto is prepared to pay from his own pocket up to 2500 US$ for everybody then most of us will probably get all of our money back.

Still, let us wait for TOW and RCS to say what really happened...
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Old 12-31-2005, 08:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Its really simple. You got advertisers like tow and raiders who have huddled together to try to cover their tracks of promoting a failed book. SBR reported they were in trouble which they are/were. And SBR told you our opinion if there is ever a plan.

You might feel better getting snowed by RichCoast advertisers at this point but unfortunately it does not change any facts.

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Old 12-31-2005, 09:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Look around and see what respected posters are saying and other websites. We all hope for the best.

If SBR did not report they were in touble how would you have known? Now we are telling you to get out if you can...take the advice or leave it at least you have an opinion to consider.

http://www.gambling911.com/TheOffShoreWire.html

http://offshore.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=38787

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=315184

http://www.eog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12561
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Old 12-31-2005, 09:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm a respected poster as well. Been in this industry a long time. I had a lot of respect for SBR and I don't want to completely write you guys off just yet, but by the looks of things you guys were definitely in the wrong. Just because you didn't accept the advertising bucks from RCS, doesn't mean that it's right for you to go around making up stories and blowing things out of proportion. By the sounds of things, this is simply an ownership change that was not smooth because it was not anticipated on the part of RCS. Naturally, the transition takes time. During this time, you guys decided to use the forums to wage a personal vendetta against TOW. I don't care much for drama and if SBR and TOW don't like each other, well it makes no difference to me. I take exception to the fact that SBR PUT THE PLAYERS AT RISK. We were all pawns, and for that reason I have lost a lot of respect for SBR. Sorry.
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Old 12-31-2005, 10:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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It was simple owenrship change that we messed up by reporting it? Wow, this is a page out of Watergate.

Maybe there is someone that is going to buy that coverup. If so they should certainly restrict themself to the TOW website.
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Old 12-31-2005, 11:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Its really simple. You got advertisers like tow and raiders who have huddled together to try to cover their tracks of promoting a failed book. SBR reported they were in trouble which they are/were. And SBR told you our opinion if there is ever a plan.

You might feel better getting snowed by RichCoast advertisers at this point but unfortunately it does not change any facts.
Here we go again...

You promoted them as well through the TOW banner on the front page...
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Old 12-31-2005, 11:28 AM   #9 (permalink)
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You mean here YOU go again. They did not have a rookie project when we sold them a banner. Oh, but you knew that. Soooo many agendas. Pier just curious, do you have a competing website or something?
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Old 12-31-2005, 11:35 AM   #10 (permalink)
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betcris took over richcoastsports

that sounds like a very good deal even it might involve some rollover... waiting for their email...
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Old 12-31-2005, 11:57 AM   #11 (permalink)
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You mean here YOU go again. They did not have a rookie project when we sold them a banner. Oh, but you knew that. Soooo many agendas. Pier just curious, do you have a competing website or something?
We went through this before and I still believe that some players signed up with the "dangerous rookies" because TOW had a banner on SBR's front page...thus you're responsible as well.

I'm not trying to make SBR look bad, I'm simply calling what I see...SBR is a great website...but you are a big hypocrite...

If you see an agenda in this, well that's your problem, not mine.
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Old 12-31-2005, 12:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Guess it didn't really matter since CRIS took them over anyways. The Players that were with RC are better off now than before.
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Look around and see what respected posters are saying and other websites. We all hope for the best.

If SBR did not report they were in touble how would you have known? Now we are telling you to get out if you can...take the advice or leave it at least you have an opinion to consider.

http://www.gambling911.com/TheOffShoreWire.html

http://offshore.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=38787

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=315184

http://www.eog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12561
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Old 12-31-2005, 01:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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So the "shaky" deal is actually with SBR A+ rated Betcris. Very shaky that is!
A few days ago TOW looked like that had lost credibility, now they have got RCS customers a great deal and SBR has come out with egg on their face for trying at every turn to gain political advantage out of situation whilst not doing a thing for players. Outcome: TOW snatches victory from the jaws of defeat for players and SBR comes out with zero credibility.
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Old 12-31-2005, 01:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I have to agree with Ronald. Why should people remove there money from RCS now, when betcris took over? Tow has shown you repect John even when u thru crap in there face.
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Why don’t you put your energy into helping players get their funds first SBR instead of being obsessed with making yourselves look good and TOW look bad?
Get off your high horse, and leave the fall-out for later.
You should be putting players first.
I do have to agree on that. Lately it seems like SBR is doing the best effort to create scandals to hurt TOW.
I just read SBR front page and there are some major news that are not even mentioned in the forum... I'm sure that if those sportsbook were TOW advertisers things would have been different.
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Old 12-31-2005, 05:20 PM   #16 (permalink)
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SBR went overboard criticizing TOW. It's almost as if SBR wanted RCS to screw players so they could say that they were correct.

SBR- In the future look out for players first and put aside your personal agendas.
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Old 12-31-2005, 07:20 PM   #17 (permalink)
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raiders you, an admitted scammer of PlayTheScore, actually advised someone else to put aside personal agendas and help the players???? Thats just tooo funny.

We did look out for the players. Remember who broke the news?? We will do it again too so if you try to cover-up any more bankrupt shops raiders, we will be there...again.
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Old 12-31-2005, 07:41 PM   #18 (permalink)
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