[bigboydan]

I think the cops are trying to frame OJ.

O.J. charged with 10 felonies in alleged armed robbery

LAS VEGAS -- Prosecutors filed formal charges Tuesday against O.J. Simpson, alleging the fallen football star committed 10 felonies, including kidnapping, in the armed robbery of sports memorabilia collectors in a casino-hotel room.

Simpson was arrested Sunday after a collector reported a group of armed men charged into his hotel room and took several items Simpson claimed belonged to him.

Simpson, 60, was booked on five felony counts, including suspicion of assault and robbery with a deadly weapon. District Attorney David Roger filed those charges and added five other felonies, including kidnapping and conspiracy to commit kidnapping, according to court documents.

Simpson, accused along with three other men, faces the possibility of life in prison if convicted in the robbery at the Palace Station casino. He was being held without bail and was scheduled to be arraigned Wednesday.

The fourth suspect was arrested Tuesday after turning himself in to Las Vegas police, authorities said. Police have described Michael McClinton, 49, of Las Vegas, as "a key player."

According to the charges, Simpson and the others went to the hotel room under the pretext of brokering a deal with Alfred Beardsley and Bruce Fromong, two longtime collectors of Simpson memorabilia.

Once in the room, Simpson prevented one of the collectors from calling 911 on his cell phone "by ripping it out of Fromong's hand" while one or more accomplices pointed or displayed a handgun.

The complaint does not specify which of the men involved was carrying the weapon.

The kidnapping charge accuses the men of detaining each of the men "against his will, and without his consent, for the purpose of committing a robbery."

McClinton arranged through his attorney to surrender. Two other men who have not been identified also are being sought by police.

Fromong, a crucial witness in the case, was in critical condition in a Los Angeles hospital on Tuesday, after suffering a heart attack Monday, according to a spokeswoman at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. Beardsley has said he does not want to pursue the case.

Simpson's lawyer, Yale Galanter, said he planned to ask for Simpson's release on his own recognizance.

"If it was anyone other than O.J. Simpson, he would have been released by now," Galanter said.

Simpson has insisted that he was not armed and that he went to the hotel simply to retrieve property that had been stolen from him.

"You can't rob something that is yours," Galanter said. "O.J. said, 'You've got stolen property. Either you return it or I call the police.' "

Witnesses and authorities have said that they don't believe Simpson had a gun but that some of the men who accompanied him during the confrontation were armed.

Two others named in the complaint, Walter Alexander and Clarence Stewart, have been arrested and released.

Two other men who have not been identified also are being sought by police.

Some of the missing goods, including autographed footballs, were turned in Monday by Stewart, 53, of Las Vegas, before he was released on $78,000 bail.

Alexander, 46, of Mesa, Ariz., said Tuesday that Simpson may have been tricked because another memorabilia dealer who tipped him off also recorded everything on tape.

"It sounds like a setup to me," Alexander told ABC's "Good Morning America." He said Simpson had thought the memorabilia belonged to him after getting a call from the dealer, Tom Riccio.

Riccio, who reportedly sold the audio to the celebrity gossip Web site TMZ.com, said Tuesday that Simpson hatched the idea himself.

"O.J. came up with some way-out ideas before I finally agreed to the last one, which didn't go the way he said it would go. I didn't do anything wrong was the bottom line," Riccio told Fox News Channel.

Simpson and the other three men are charged with two counts of first-degree kidnapping; two counts of robbery with use of a deadly weapon; burglary while in possession of a deadly weapon; two counts of assault with a deadly weapon; conspiracy to commit kidnapping; conspiracy to commit robbery; and a misdemeanor, conspiracy to commit a crime.

Simpson also faces one charge of coercion with use of a deadly weapon, a felony.

Asked whether the number of new charges seemed extreme, given the circumstances, a leading Las Vegas defense attorney said prosecutors often aim high.

"It's typical for them to allege as many crimes as they believe they can establish probable cause for, knowing that to some degree it may not completely pan out that way. It adds to the pressure on the defendant for the purpose of negotiation," said David Chesnoff, adding that the charges make it likely Simpson will be asked to post a "very high bail."

Simpson was acquitted more than a decade ago of the 1994 killings of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and Goldman's son, Ron. He was later found liable in a wrongful-death trial.

The civil jury returned a $33.5 million judgment against Simpson, but it remains largely unpaid. The Goldman family has waged a campaign to claim Simpson's assets since then.

Earlier Tuesday in California, a judge gave Goldman's father, Fred, a week to come up with a list of sports memorabilia that Simpson is accused of stealing from the Vegas hotel room, but he refused to order Simpson to hand over his earnings from everything from autograph signings to video games.

In court in Santa Monica, David Cook, an attorney for Fred Goldman, accused Simpson of "sitting on a treasure trove of sports memorabilia" while ignoring the multimillion-dollar judgment. But both Cook and Simpson lawyer Ronald Slates said they had no idea what the items were, and Slates argued it was unclear whether Simpson really owned any of them.

Cook also filed a new request to get Simpson's watch, which he described as a Rolex Submariner that he saw the former football star wearing in a photo featured on the celebrity Web site TMZ.com. Such watches sell for $5,000 or more, he said.

He also argued that Simpson was wealthy, citing a 2003 tax form indicating income of $400,000.

Slates noted Simpson has expenses for his three children. "He has a right, like everybody else, to be protected [under the law]," Slates said.

Slates also said Simpson has repeatedly offered to settle the judgment with the Goldman family.

"It is inconceivable that the father of a murder victim would sit and haggle," Cook said.

[pico]

he got away with double homocide, but he got nailed for claiming some sports memorbilia

a stereotypical nfl player.

[bigboydan]

Check out the audio footage of it all.


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[bigboydan]

Looks like they already have odds posted on O.J's fate. So place your bets.

Guilty of Armed Robbery?

OJ will be found Guilty of Armed Robbery +120
OJ will be found Not Guilty of Armed Robbery -160



How Much time Will OJ spend in prison if convicted


Suspended Sentence+400
Under 3 Months+200
3-6 Months+250
6-9 Months+300
9 Months to a Year+400
Over 1 Year+500

[JBC77]

This whole thing seems shady. Did you see the degenerate Geraldo interviewed tonight. Mobsters in the room? WTF?

Is this some kind of publicity for the "how I did it book?"

[pico]

OJ will be found Guilty of Armed Robbery +120

i'll take that action. this is a slam dunk case. they found the gun. there is no gloves on the scene

[tblues2005]

I can't believe that you could get +120, I think they have the goods on him this time, those tapes tell the whole story, if they are real tapes that is. I think he is in big trouble unless something comes around quick.

[Seattle Slew]

That Fox anchor is gorgeous. Never seen her before.

[Dark Horse]

No chance in hell that a guy lucky enough to be in the HOF and beat a double murder charge has suddenly run out of luck.

Did I hear this right? His accuser had a massive heart attack yesterday? lol How Sopranoesque.

[EJandV]

He needs to work on his golf game .
Is hard to know what to think here .
When he was found not guilty back in
1995 my thoughts were that he would
reap what he had sown years later , that it
would catch up to him . The reap what you
sow thing is so real it isint even funny .
You always reap what you sow doesn't matter
who you are .

[jjgold]

I think they will push it so they can get him back for beating a murder wrap.

[bigboydan]

If he's really broke then how will he get that money for his bond.

O.J. does not enter plea; bail set at $125,000

LAS VEGAS -- A judge set bail Wednesday at $125,000 for O.J. Simpson in the former football star's alleged role in the armed robbery of sports memorabilia collectors at a Las Vegas hotel.

Simpson, standing in a blue jail uniform and handcuffs, furrowed his brow as the judge read the list of charges against him.

He answered quietly in a hoarse voice and nodded as Justice of the Peace Joe Bonaventure Jr. detailed charges of kidnapping and robbery and laid out restrictions for his release. He did not enter a plea.

Bail was set on the condition that Simpson surrender his passport and have no contact with co-defendants and potential witnesses in the case.

Simpson was arrested Sunday after a collector reported a group of armed men charged into his hotel room and took several items Simpson claimed belonged to him. Police reports obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press offered details on the scene.

Simpson, 60, was booked on five felony counts, including suspicion of assault and robbery with a deadly weapon. District Attorney David Roger filed those charges and added five other felonies, including kidnapping and conspiracy to commit kidnapping, according to court documents.

Simpson, accused along with three other men, faces the possibility of life in prison if convicted in the robbery at the Palace Station casino. He was being held without bail before his appearance Wednesday.

According to the charges, Simpson and the others went to the hotel room under the pretext of brokering a deal with Alfred Beardsley and Bruce Fromong, two longtime collectors of Simpson memorabilia.

According to police reports, Simpson and the other men entered the room and at gunpoint ordered the longtime collectors to hand over several items once owned by the Heisman Trophy winner. Beardsley told police that one of the men with Simpson brandished a semiautomatic pistol, frisked him and impersonated a police officer.

[louisvillekid]

let me first say i'm not an O.J. supporter, ok, i'm confused about these kidnapping charges, they're saying possibly life with parole, i thought just him and some dudes came in a hotel room and 1or 2 of the guys had guns and they just demanded his old stuff(collectibles) back and they left, i haven't heard anything about using restraints and/or taking them out of the room. everytime i read about a robbery in my local paper, wether its at a bank, a home, a convenient store, or whatever, i've never heard of the person who robbed the place getting charged with kidnapping, even if they had a gun and forced customers on the ground or into another room.
i 'm confused, are kidnapping laws different state to state.

[JoshW]

Seems like too much of a setup to get away with it. Maybe a Nevada jury will just want to get him, but I think this will be a hard conviction to get.

[atakdog]

Kidnapping is easy to tack onto many violent crimes -- if OJ and his thugs were telling people to get up against the wall, or otherwise preventing them from leaving, that can be charged as kidnapping.

[ZeRo C@iDa*]

.........OJ deserves a bullet*

[dodif]

Originally Posted by atakdog

Kidnapping is easy to tack onto many violent crimes -- if OJ and his thugs were telling people to get up against the wall, or otherwise preventing them from leaving, that can be charged as kidnapping.

kidnapping my ass. thats false imprisonment. But hey when the man wants you thats just the way it is. They trumped up the charges because they can and wanted to. Its bullshit but OJ should have known better.

FALSE IMPRISONMENT - Any intentional detention of the person of another not authorized by law is false imprisonment. It is any illegal imprisonment, without any process whatever, or under color of process wholly illegal, without regard to the question whether any crime has been committed or a debt due.

[dodif]

Kidnapping is generally defined as the abduction of another person with intent to:

1. Hold him for ransom or reward; or
2. Use him as a shield or hostage; or
3. Accomplish or aid the commission of any felony or flight therefrom; or
4. Inflict physical injury upon him, or to violate or abuse him sexually; or
5. Terrorize him or a third person; or
6. Interfere with the performance of any governmental or political function.

[bigboydan]

I think they are going to finally nail the innocent O.J., because 2 guys turned on him.

Cashmore to testify that guns were used in O.J. confrontation

LAS VEGAS -- A second co-defendant in the O.J. Simpson armed robbery case said Monday that he will plead guilty to a reduced charge and testify against Simpson and four others in the alleged hotel room theft of sports collectibles from two memorabilia dealers.

Walter Alexander, 46, of Mesa, Ariz., told a judge he will plead guilty to conspiracy to commit robbery, a felony. He could face between one and six years in prison.

Outside the courtroom, Alexander and his lawyers declined to say what testimony he will provide.

Earlier Monday, Charles Cashmore, 40, of Las Vegas, told the same judge that he would plead guilty to a felony and testify for the prosecution.

The plea agreements up the ante in the prosecution of Simpson. Cashmore can testify that guns were involved in the Sept. 13 confrontation with two sports memorabilia dealers at a Las Vegas casino hotel room, his lawyer said.

"He can establish who was in the room, what was said, who had guns, who didn't have guns, potentially who may have seen guns, who didn't see guns," attorney Edward Miley said outside court. "I think he wishes he would have never met O.J."

Simpson and his lawyers have denied guns were in the room at the Palace Station hotel-casino. His lawyers did not respond Monday to requests for comment.

Both Alexander and Cashmore waived their preliminary hearings. Las Vegas Justice of the Peace Joe Bonaventure Jr., set both men's arraignments for Oct. 23.

Cashmore faces up to five years in prison.

"In District Court, he'll be pleading guilty to accessory to robbery," Clark County District Attorney David Roger told Bonaventure. "He's agreed to provide truthful testimony."

Outside court, Cashmore said he thought he'd done the right thing, but declined additional comment.

Cashmore was initially arraigned on nine felonies and a gross misdemeanor, charges that included kidnapping, armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon and conspiracy. A kidnapping conviction alone could have resulted in a sentence of life in prison with parole.

Simpson and the others, Clarence "C.J." Stewart, Michael McClinton, and Charles Ehrlich, are due in court for a preliminary hearing on Nov. 8 and 9. Bonaventure will decide then whether there is enough evidence to send the case to trial in state court.

If asked, Cashmore will testify if asked at the preliminary hearing that Alexander and McClinton were armed when they entered the room with Simpson, Miley said.

Simpson claims at least some of the items taken from collectors Alfred Beardsley and Bruce Fromong belonged to him, and his lawyers have maintained that no guns were used. Simpson and the others are charged with kidnapping, armed robbery, assault, burglary and conspiracy.

Cashmore was introduced to Simpson and most of the others in the group for the first time minutes before the alleged robbery, Miley said.

"He didn't know anyone. He didn't know what was going on," Miley said. "He didn't have a gun."

Cashmore, a journeyman laborer, bartender and disc jockey, surrendered to authorities six days after the encounter, and after police released images from hotel security videotapes showing him carrying a box from the room at the hotel.

Cashmore didn't look at everything in the box, but said some items included lithograph prints of football great Joe Montana, his lawyer said.

Cashmore should have immediately gone to the police and turned over the items he carried out of the room, Miley said. "He should have done something, but he didn't," Miley said.

In 1996, he plea bargained a felony theft charge to a misdemeanor and received probation in an embezzlement case in Utah.

Alexander's lawyer, Robert Dennis Rentzer, declined to say whether Alexander had a gun in the room, but expressed doubt Cashmore could say Alexander was armed.

McClinton's lawyer, Bill Terry, did not respond to requests for comment.

[jjgold]

OJ is done this time, even a black jury is going to convict him and he will get 10 years

Yes!!!

[Doc JS]

Does seem somewhat Capone-esque doesn't it?

Got away with double homicide...going to do time for armed robbery.

[tblues2005]

I do think O.J. Simpson thinks he is above the law and it will probably go to trial too, I think he will get between 5 and 10 years for this one. At least I hope so.

[jjgold]

Hopefully someone will pop him in jail

[operaman]

This whole thing is a publicity stunt. (-350)

[moneyplays]

Originally Posted by tblues2005

I do think O.J. Simpson thinks he is above the law and it will probably go to trial too, I think he will get between 5 and 10 years for this one. At least I hope so.

Yeah I guess he forgot he is black. He did get away with it the first time though.

[SPECULATOR 13]

Originally Posted by jjgold

OJ is done this time, even a black jury is going to convict him and he will get 10 years

Yes!!!

The D.A. Gil Garceti thought the same as you do, so he took the trial from Santa Monica where the crime happened and brought it DTWN,hoping that this would prevent them from RIOTING!. In spite of the fact that 500 pieces of evidence(excluding the gloves) where gathered by the prosecution (witch WAS the most in the history of American jurisprudence)proving empirically Simpson's guilt !
The only thing it took for Johnny Cockroach to do in order crystallize Simpson's innocence in the mind of the all black jury,was to say the following non-sense:
"IF THE GLOVES DON'T FIT YOU MUST ACQUIT!!!".....remember

[bigboydan]

Just when you think this story would fade away quietly for now, here we see three others now face 12 charges in robbery case.

Simpson, three others now face 12 charges in robbery case

LAS VEGAS -- New charges of felony coercion were filed Wednesday against O.J. Simpson and three co-defendants in the alleged armed robbery of two sports memorabilia dealers.

Prosecutors increased to 12 the number of charges against Simpson, Clarence Stewart, Michael McClinton and Charles Ehrlich.

Conviction on felony coercion carries a sentence of up to six years in prison.

The four men didn't have to appear before the judge. They were represented by their lawyers.

The revised complaint drops charges against Walter Alexander and Charles Cashmore, who pleaded guilty to reduced charges and are due to testify against the others at a preliminary hearing beginning Nov. 8.

[bigboydan]

You can't help but to feel sorry for poor OJ nowadays.

McClinton is third co-defendant to agree to plea deal in O.J. case

LAS VEGAS -- A man accused of pulling a gun as O.J. Simpson and others confronted two sports memorabilia dealers in a Las Vegas hotel room told a judge Monday that he'll accept a plea deal and testify against Simpson and two other men.

Michael McClinton, 49, of Las Vegas, became the third man to agree to plead guilty to reduced charges in the case.

He told Justice of the Peace Joe M. Bonaventure he will plead guilty to robbery and conspiracy to commit robbery. He could receive probation or up to 11 years in prison.

According to police reports, McClinton brought two guns at Simpson's request to a Sept. 13 confrontation with collectibles dealers Bruce Fromong and Alfred Beardsley. McClinton wielded one gun and acted like a police officer, according to others in the hotel room.

McClinton's testimony would provide prosecutors with another account contradicting Simpson's claim that no guns were involved when he went to retrieve items he said belonged to him. In brief comments outside the courtroom, his lawyer, William Terry, wouldn't say what testimony McClinton would provide.

Simpson's lawyer, Yale Galanter, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. He has criticized Clark County District Attorney David Roger for "giving away the courthouse" while cutting deals with co-defendants.

Simpson and co-defendants Clarence Stewart and Charles Ehrlich face 12 criminal charges, including kidnapping, armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, conspiracy and coercion, and one gross misdemeanor, conspiracy to commit a crime. A kidnapping conviction alone could result in a sentence of life in prison with parole.

Charles Cashmore and Walter Alexander have pleaded guilty to reduced charges and agreed to testify against the three men.

Alexander, a Simpson golfing buddy from Mesa, Ariz., told police that Simpson said to bring guns, and told him later to deny that guns were used. Alexander pleaded guilty to felony conspiracy to commit robbery, and could face probation or up to six years in prison.

Cashmore, a union laborer from Las Vegas, pleaded guilty to felony accessory to robbery. He could receive probation or up to five years in prison.

Authorities say memorabilia taken from the hotel room included football game balls signed by Simpson, Joe Montana lithographs, baseballs autographed by Pete Rose and Duke Snider, photos of Simpson with the Heisman Trophy, and framed awards and plaques, together valued at as much as $100,000, according to police reports.

[louisvillekid]

i still don't understand the kidnapping charge, and it says its life in prison. nobody was taken from the room forcefully and tied up or even detained in some other location. again, i'm not an O.J. backer, i just don't understand the kidnapping charge.

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by louisvillekid

again, i'm not an O.J. backer, i just don't understand the kidnapping charge.

I am not familiar with all the details of the case, but I do know that they will hit you up with similar charges if you do not allow someone to leave a location. I might be wrong but that is my belief, even if it somewhere as familiar to you as your own home, you can't not allow someone to leave without getting charged with some form of kidnapping.

[20Four7]

I don't know about vegas, but in Canada the charge is forceable confinement. If I rob a bank and hold hostages then on top of the armed robbery charge they could tally the forceable confinement charge for not allowing anyone to freely go. I think OJ is done on this one. Then again Michael Vick could be a good character witness for OJ

[bigboydan]

Heres the latest and greatest news on poor and innocent O.J.

LOS ANGELES -- Federal agents learned three weeks in advance that O.J. Simpson and a memorabilia dealer planned an operation to retrieve personal items Simpson said were stolen from him, according to FBI reports obtained Friday by The Associated Press.

Dealer Thomas Riccio told FBI agents Aug. 21 that Simpson wanted to televise the operation as he confronted a collector who was peddling thousands of pieces of Simpson's memorabilia.

[louisvillekid]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

Heres the latest and greatest news on poor and innocent O.J.

see, i knew there had to be some sneaky undercover conspiracy stuff happening. he'll get off on some technicality.

[mshanedub420]

but he'll be BROKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!**** OJ

[Crutch]

he deserves whatever he gets