[SBR_John]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EU1O-hGxgg This is semi-funny.

On a more serious note this will be quite a motivational point for pat opponents for at least a couple of weeks. I doubt the cheating really helped that much. But the $500,000 fine and loss of a 1st round draft pick would indicate it was pretty deep.

So are the Pats a fade for a couple of weeks??

[SBR Lou]

You can make arguments for it this week, just because they're playing the Chargers. But beyond that no, they should still win a lot of games.

[bigboydan]

I actually like the Pats this week John. However, overall I feel they will be a very good fade this year as a hole.

[SBR Lou]

I see them finishing like 12-4 or 11-5 at worst. I guess it depends if "Shady Brady" can still pick apart defenses without any extra assistance, I'm pretty sure he can though. Still a real talented team.